WJC Gold Medal GDT: Canada vs. Russia

What a boring 3rd period so far. Russians have given up already.

Who would the MVP of the tournament be?

that a pretty tough one i think. I dont really know anyone on canada that stood out by themselves, been more of a group effort exp. between Bergeron, Cros, Getzlaf, Carter, Phaneuf, weber.

how about Kessel? <-- for the amreican fans

Who would the MVP of the tournament be?

Ovechkin. ;)

Even though it's a blowout, anybody watching care to comment with an objective view on Malkin's play tonight?
every body is too busy haveing hissy-fits to talk hockey

that a pretty tough one i think. I dont really know anyone on canada that stood out by themselves, been more of a group effort exp. between Bergeron, Cros, Getzlaf, Carter, Phaneuf, weber.

how about Kessel? <-- for the amreican fans

Crosby, Getzlaf, and Weber have no shot. It could be any of the other three. I'd go with Carter personally.

Singing "Na-na Goodbye" with 10 minutes to go? Wow thats classless. No one with a sense of desency can be happy for a team who's fans show such disrespect.

How has Shawn Belle played in this game? I notice he is +3, putting him at +9 for the tournament. Is that indicative of how he has been playing? Thanks ahead of time.

Singing "Na-na Goodbye" with 10 minutes to go? Wow thats classless. No one with a sense of desency can be happy for a team who's fans show such disrespect.

They were singing it in the second intermission too. :joker:

Even though it's a blowout, anybody watching care to comment with an objective view on Malkin's play tonight?

In the first he was pretty visible, but has been contained by the Canadians especially for the last 10 min. of 2nd and for the 3rd.

I hope you mean Canadian record. He's not even close to the overall one.

The Canadian one is 11 I believe and the overall one is 16 by Markus Naslund.

Who gets to be the top goaltender in this tourney?

My vote goes to the Czech goaltender Schwarz

anyone notice all those canadian fans waving those flags distracting everyones view? doesnt get more classless than that. jeeze :mad:

the difference between the chechs and the sweeds was that the chechs was playing constance defence against the canadians but sweden thought they had a chance playing offensive hockey and left Heino-lindberg alone with the canadien forwards.My opinion is still that heino-lindberg is the best goalie in the tournament
and will be in the future....remember where you read this first...

In the first he was pretty visible, but has been contained by the Canadians especially for the last 10 min. of 2nd and for the 3rd.
Do you think it's because he realizes the game is long over?

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Nice rush and display of skill by Malkin.

In the first he was pretty visible, but has been contained by the Canadians especially for the last 10 min. of 2nd and for the 3rd.
I am being punished by ESPN and can't see the game, would appreciate your opinion.

What a nice play by Malkin. Got all the way to Glass. No goal though.

Sutter has to be commended for roping his young charges in. Can't see any showboating in the third.

The Canadian one is 11 I believe and the overall one is 16 by Markus Naslund.
I think the Canadian one is 12, a tie between Carter and Lindros.

As for the "Na-Na-Na" singing, I see nothing wrong with beginning the singing with 10 minutes to go in a blow out game. I know that my flyer faithful and I sung it real early 2 years ago when they crushed the Leafs in game 7.

What a boring 3rd period so far. Russians have given up already.I know......they're not even DIVING anymore to try and draw penalties.

If there was ever a sure sign of the Russians giving up, that would be it.

havent noticed much of Malkin but he's had two decent rushes where hes tried to deke out the Dmen but other than that :dunno:

Way off topic, 264 ppl viewing, 132 members, 132 guests. What are the odds?
I'm having it even all the time. Maybe somekind of bug or something like that?

Do you think it's because he realizes the game is long over?

Well, he seems to still have some spark in him, despite the score.

Honestly, the only guy who's really an embarassment out of all of this is Pierre Mcguire. Fair enough, you hate Russia and love Canada, fine. But try to maintain at least some sense of objectivity through all of this, would you?

In the first he was pretty visible, but has been contained by the Canadians especially for the last 10 min. of 2nd and for the 3rd.

Thanks.

I suppose when it's 6-1, nobody on the 1 side is really standing out.

Nice to see he just had a good play. Back when I was listening, he sounded like he got a great chance on the doorstep but Glass came up with a big save.

Who gets to be the top goaltender in this tourney?

My vote goes to the Czech goaltender Schwarz

Probably. Of the four teams in the final four, Schwarz played the best. Montoya was bad. Glass didn't face enough shots to show us anything. Russia's goalies weren't too impressive.

Personally I think Evgeny Malkin is, and will be, a better hockey player than Alexander Ovechkin and I've thought this way ever since the draft. Ovechkin is a bit more dominant but Malkin has that steady and quiet presence and will be better team player imo.
Malkin was easily the gamebreaker against the USA in the semi-finals and he has an edge that I never expected. Stat-wise, he is up there with Ovechkin but I'd give him a slight nod since he is 9-10 months younger than AO.

Even though it's a blowout, anybody watching care to comment with an objective view on Malkin's play tonight?

He was pretty good. Actually, he and Ovechkin were probably the best Russians. You can see his size and skill.

The Canadian team is just that much better. After the 5 on 3 the Russians kind of died out. At even strength the Russians were overmatched.

Malkin and Ovechkin were decent. It's their teammates that couldn't keep up with the Canadians.

Honestly, the only guy who's really an embarassment out of all of this is Pierre Mcguire. Fair enough, you hate Russia and love Canada, fine. But try to maintain at least some sense of objectivity through all of this, would you?
Where's the hate?

Well, he seems to still have some spark in him, despite the score.
Thanks, I realize Canada is dominating as I expected, I'm looking for heart in this Pens pick

Honestly, the only guy who's really an embarassment out of all of this is Pierre Mcguire. Fair enough, you hate Russia and love Canada, fine. But try to maintain at least some sense of objectivity through all of this, would you?

Kids dont give up on your dreams..Shea weber, never drafted into the WHL and then went 2nd round in the NHL, Don't give up on your dreams kids.
Thanks Pierre! hey i think im gonna go tape my stick and go nock on Nonis's door and ask him for a try-out with the nucks :banghead:

I know......they're not even DIVING anymore to try and draw penalties.

If there was ever a sure sign of the Russians giving up, that would be it.

Glad to have you aboard.

GOLD SOON!!!!!!! :handclap:

GOLD SOON!!!!!!! :handclap:
As you deserve with this team :bow:

Put Carter In!

my opinion is if the swedish staff had the courage to play heino-lindbnerg from the start in the game against the US.Sweden would play the final game against canada!
And the score have not been 6-1 after 2 periods.
BLAME THE SWEDISH STAFF!!!!

It's all over!!!!! Canada has done it

Please show them how to be a graceful champion :)

Man I would give anything to be there and be a part of that crowd, it sounds so exciting.

GOLD MEDAL CHAMPS TEAM CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

YEA BABY! Canada's first gold since I started watching the tournament and is it ever a sweet one. Well deserved. :handclap: :handclap:

He was pretty good. Actually, he and Ovechkin were probably the best Russians. You can see his size and skill.

The Canadian team is just that much better. After the 5-3 the Russians kind of died out. At even strength the Russians were overmatched.

Malkin and Ovechkin were decent. It's their teammates that couldn't keep up with the Canadians.

I think where Canada really is a cut above everyone is on defense. You could likely take an all star team of defenders from all the other teams and it still wouldn't be as good as Canada's.

They boast a great amount of talent up front too, of course, but I think where it really shows is on defense. If we had an NHL season, and Bergeron was with Boston, I think Canada still is much better than everyone.

Congrats to the Canadians on a much deserved win. I was cheering for Russia, but Canada is just too good. I was hoping for a more competitive game, but it doesn't really matter to me because I can't see it.

I'm just glad that no extracirricular stuff has happened. Hopefully this game ends cleanly.

Malkin is going to be a big-time playmaker... doesn't have the hard shot like AO, but is the best stickhandler i've seen since Kovalev..
hopefully the Pens will deal him to a team where he'll have a top end sniper to compliment the arsenal...


Personally I think Evgeny Malkin is, and will be, a better hockey player than Alexander Ovechkin and I've thought this way ever since the draft. Ovechkin is a bit more dominant but Malkin has that steady and quiet presence and will be better team player imo.
Malkin was easily the gamebreaker against the USA in the semi-finals and he has an edge that I never expected. Stat-wise, he is up there with Ovechkin but I'd give him a slight nod since he is 9-10 months younger than AO.

Summary: a good 1st period and beginning of 2nd, after that pretty boring. I expected more of this game.

Honestly, the only guy who's really an embarassment out of all of this is Pierre Mcguire. Fair enough, you hate Russia and love Canada, fine. But try to maintain at least some sense of objectivity through all of this, would you?

Don't watch TSN or ESPN then. Of course he is going to be biased towards the Canadians. I'd expect the same for the Leafs or Canadiens if I went to watch Leafs TV or Le Jeu Francais.

Congratulations to an outstanding Canadian team and the players. They put in a great performance all tournament, and were almost flawless other than for about 10 minutes against Slovakia.

Great classy win by the boys.
When you're the best you don't need to showboat.
:yo:

Congrats Canada! A truly dominating performace!

We are the champions my friend!

Congrats to Canada. This tournament was just something we won't propably ever going to see again. I enjoyed Team Canada.

Malkin is going to be a big-time playmaker... doesn't have the hard shot like AO, but is the best stickhandler i've seen since Kovalev..
hopefully the Pens will deal him to a team where he'll have a top end sniper to compliment the arsenal...
Or hopefully the Pens simply aquire a sniper of their own. :dunno:

Canada owns you.

Congrats to Canada, enjoy that gold!

Congrats to Russia as well, silver is nice too. ;)

Thanks, I realize Canada is dominating as I expected, I'm looking for heart in this Pens pick

He was one of the few Russians today, that were level with this game.

That is the best junior hockey team ever assembled. Amazing top to bottom. Absolutely amazing. Sutter deserves a great amount of respect and credit for selecting this team. He took a ton of heat in his selections and he came to the tournament and his team kicked the pants off everyone. Kudos to him and Canadian hockey.

Congratualions canada YOU ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD

I think where Canada really is a cut above everyone is on defense. You could likely take an all star team of defenders from all the other teams and it still wouldn't be as good as Canada's.
Exactly, no team could suit 4 defensemen that could come close to Canada's core. People keep harping on the various teams goalies and lack of two way play by the forwards. Reality is no one could match Canada's D :bow:

It's nice that after 7 years of being beaten up on by everyone from Russia to Khazakstan to USA, Canada finally gets one, but what a horrible tournament this was. Not a single great game involving Canada. How dissapointing is it that in the year that Canada has put out its best squad in 10 years, every other world power put out either one of, or their worst.

Frankly, I don't see much to celebrate here.

Congrats Canada! :handclap:

A much deserved win.

Congrats to team Canada.

The Seven Year Jinx is Broken.....

GO CANADA GO

How many WJC's can crosby still play?

It's nice that after 7 years of being beaten up on by everyone from Russia to Khazakstan to USA, Canada finally gets one, but what a horrible tournament this was. Not a single great game involving Canada. How dissapointing is it that in the year that Canada has put out its best squad in 10 years, every other world power put out either one of, or their worst.

Frankly, I don't see much to celebrate here.

Then why did you watch the game then, or post for that matter

the future of hockey is in good hands... this was the best crop of prospects i have seen since the Kovalchuk year... Jeff Carter is awesome...Crosby is going to phenomenal, already is...

Phaneuf named top defenseman and on the all star team :handclap:

It's nice that after 7 years of being beaten up on by everyone from Russia to Khazakstan to USA, Canada finally gets one, but what a horrible tournament this was. Not a single great game involving Canada. How dissapointing is it that in the year that Canada has put out its best squad in 10 years, every other world power put out either one of, or their worst.

Frankly, I don't see much to celebrate here.

I'd love to see 2005 Canada vs. 2003 Russia or one of the early 2000s Czech teams.

How many WJC's can crosby still play?


2 more but I doubt if he plays in any more

Congratulations to Canada. Clearly the best team in the tourney. :handclap: Also nice to see the cocky Russians got what they deserved.

It's nice that after 7 years of being beaten up on by everyone from Russia to Khazakstan to USA, Canada finally gets one, but what a horrible tournament this was. Not a single great game involving Canada. How dissapointing is it that in the year that Canada has put out its best squad in 10 years, every other world power put out either one of, or their worst.

Frankly, I don't see much to celebrate here.

Sarcasm at it's best.When did the Khazks beat us

Ovechkin top forward

Congrats to Cananda. Great, great win, great tourney.

It's nice that after 7 years of being beaten up on by everyone from Russia to Khazakstan to USA, Canada finally gets one, but what a horrible tournament this was. Not a single great game involving Canada. How dissapointing is it that in the year that Canada has put out its best squad in 10 years, every other world power put out either one of, or their worst.

Frankly, I don't see much to celebrate here.

Exactly my thoughts. But no can do. Finland fielded it's weakest team for the last 10 years and Sweden has problems of it's own with the junior program. Also USA was weaker this year. IMHO, Russia and Czech had mediocre teams, that did have talent but not enough depth this year.

Sarcasm at it's best.When did the Khazks beat us

They did beat us. 1998?

How many WJC's can crosby still play?

WJC is U20, so depending on when he goes pro, 2-3 more...

Sarcasm at it's best.When did the Khazks beat us
1998 in Helsinki. Remember it because Finland won gold back then. :)

One of the proudest moments of my life, and I haven't done a damn thing all day.

When the going gets tough, the tough get going..... And the rest... well they just point to their name on their jersey and crawl home on their hands and knees.Congrats to all----just wish the talk could be about what great hockey players Ovechkin, Malkin, and the rest are, but they have some growing up to do. I'll agree that teenagers do stupid things, but their coach should have stopped that b.s in the first game when Shirokov taunted after scoring on a penalty shot. He did not get benched or even miss a shift. The Russian coaches are jut as much to blame as the players. P.S after the U.S--Rus game did they shake hands? ESPN cut off the game. Thanks

Don't watch TSN or ESPN then. Of course he is going to be biased towards the Canadians. I'd expect the same for the Leafs or Canadiens if I went to watch Leafs TV or Le Jeu Francais.

Bias is expected. Gord had bias. Fine. But Pierre acted like team Russia repeatedly ran over his dog, and team Canada had personally given the dog blood transfusions. Every hit by Russia was a cheapshot, everytime a player went down it was a dive, and every hit Canada delivered, and even the ones they missed were MONSTERS. Never mind his spiel about everyone hating Russia and cheering for Canada. I want a colour commentator, not a bald, annoying cheerleader.

WJC is U20, so depending on when he goes pro, 2-3 more...
He's an 87 birthdate, so he only has 2 more left.

1998 in Helsinki. Remember it because Finland won gold back then. :)


Ancient history.... Canada is the Super Power in HOCKEY again, the way it should be

Now Canadians can say they are undisputedly the best hockey nation on earth.

Under 17 World Champs.
Under 20 World Champs.
Men's World Champs.
Women's World Champs.
Olympic Champs.
:bow:
Hard to believe that in 1998 they had a "What's wrong with Canadian Hockey" Summit.

Life is made of peaks and valleys, and hockey is no exception.This is a peak time, let's hope that we don't get down on our country the next time we are in a valley. :teach:

P.S after the U.S--Rus game did they shake hands? ESPN cut off the game. Thanks

They did, I saw a picture.

This crowd has me so depressed, they're so happy lol.

Congratulations to Canada but shame on those canadian fans that booed Ovechkin when he was going to receive his trophies... Where's the "class" in that? I just wonder... :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead

Russia got Double Dion'ed!

Post 5000.

GOO RUSSIA! SHAIBU SHAIBUUUU!!!!!11!ghsdfouhg

I do not want to see Canada with gold!

Tough......... :D

Canada only won because their Goaltender Jeff Glass is probably the BEST under 20 goalie in the world right now... put anyone else in there and Russia would of win!

Ancient history.... Canada is the Super Power in HOCKEY again, the way it should be

History nevertheless.

Canada only won because their Goaltender Jeff Glass is probably the BEST under 20 goalie in the world right now... put anyone else in there and Russia would of win!

I REALLY hope this was sarcasm.

Why can't Miller just leave them alone? They have plenty of time for interviews later.

Bias is expected. Gord had bias. Fine. But Pierre acted like team Russia repeatedly ran over his dog, and team Canada had personally given the dog blood transfusions. Every hit by Russia was a cheapshot, everytime a player went down it was a dive, and every hit Canada delivered, and even the ones they missed were MONSTERS. Never mind his spiel about everyone hating Russia and cheering for Canada. I want a colour commentator, not a bald, annoying cheerleader.

Again I say why watch the game or even post about it then?

[in a Homer Simpson voice]

"Pffft...look at that phoney Sutter, suckin' up to Bush!"

Holy Crap!!! I thought it would be closer.
Does the score reflect how the game has been played or is it unfair

No, it could've been 11-1.

total domination by the Canadians, it looked like they were playing against pee wees all tournament.

im convincved the USA team would have offered much better competition in the finals. the Russians looked terrible.

I REALLY hope this was sarcasm.

You KNOW its true. He is extremely talented and strong, i haven't seen a goalie move as well as he does since seeing Lethonen back in 2002.

He's a 1st round draft pick in 2005 for sure. mark my words.

how do you spell tourney MVP?

b-e-r-g-e-r-o-n

:)

Again I say why watch the game or even post about it then?

Perhaps because discussion boards are about opinions? How about contemplating that for a while.

WJC is U20, so depending on when he goes pro, 2-3 more...

2 at the most. Frolik can go 3.

You KNOW its true. He is extremely talented and strong, i haven't seen a goalie move as well as he does since seeing Lethonen back in 2002.

He's a 1st round draft pick in 2005 for sure. mark my words.

Jeff Glass (G) Selected by Ottawa Senators round 3 #89 overall 2004 NHL Entry Draft.

taken from hockeydb.com

Again I say why watch the game or even post about it then?

Well because every time Canada and Russia had met it has always been a doozy that has come down to the final seconds. This game was a dreaded dud. In fact, you'll be glad to know that I hardly watched the third period, and when I did, I wasn't even paying my utmost attention.

Congratulations to Canada but shame on those canadian fans that booed Ovechkin when he was going to receive his trophies... Where's the "class" in that? I just wonder... :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead

He brought it on himself. He doesn't showboat, the crowd wouldn't have treated him like that.

He also made himself a target on the ice by his actions, every Canadian player was well aware when he was on the ice and they made sure they finished their checks - with extra enthusiasm.

I bet he regrets doing that now.
Perhaps he learned a humbling lesson???

You KNOW its true. He is extremely talented and strong, i haven't seen a goalie move as well as he does since seeing Lethonen back in 2002.

He's a 1st round draft pick in 2005 for sure. mark my words.

Huh? Glass was selected in like the 4th round in 2004 by Ottawa

Congratulations Team Canada
You really deserved it!

Good tournament, I wish I had seen more Team Russia games on TV since this last game didn't really have any purpose for me.

But hey, see you all during the U18s, I'm taking a vacation from these forums until then.

doubt it.

total domination by the Canadians, it looked like they were playing against pee wees all tournament.

im convincved the USA team would have offered much better competition in the finals. the Russians looked terrible.

Or hopefully the Pens simply aquire a sniper of their own. :dunno:

naaaah, never underestimate the ability to insert a cheap shot at the Pens (and because they intelligently let Jagr walk instead of vastly overpaying him their supposed inability to keep any player) within a post on almost any subject . . .

Wow,what a game Canada deserve this win,We are the best :yo: :yo: :yo:

Congrats to all Canadians (expet me :D)

Great performeance, you did not steal it, you truelly deserved this medal and this perfect record...Huraaaaaaay to Canada!!

They did beat us. 1998?

Oh yeah that's right.Dark day but today's a sunny day

Canada only won because their Goaltender Jeff Glass is probably the BEST under 20 goalie in the world right now... put anyone else in there and Russia would of win!

Actually, it might have more to do with the fact that Russia had maybe 2 even-strength shots the entire game. Oh, and the fact that Russia's captain quit half-way through. What a leader! :amazed:

Man, we pwned em good. It feels good to beat such a hated team. They are pesky, they are cheap, they are very very very cocky, they hack, they wack, they spear, the spit, the mouth off, the mouth off at the fans, the rub it in. They do everything that deserves for them to be hated. They do everything to label themselves, the hated team.

6-1 pouding? Awesome. It should have been 8-1. THe game wasnt even close. Russia sucked bad this game.

McGuire said it right. Russians portrait themselves very poorly. Canadian players knew it. USA asked the Canadians , beggin em to beat those cocky Russians.

Way ta go Canada.


GO CANADA GOGOGOGOGO!!!

Ovechkin deserved the punishement he got today. Just cant wait til the NHL.

I just replied to someone else who said this and I'll say it again...

Ovechkin brought that on himself.
If he showed class he would have been shown class.

So true,I mean why should we respect him If he Is not respecting us??

The Russian goalies sure did not help their team today. A few of those goals should have been blocked. Don't know if they were nervous or just lacked the skill.

Great Game!!!!!

What was the all-star team? I know Bergeron was tournament MVP. :D

Nothing wrong with booing a player but booing a national anthem is another story.

full game recap...

ovechkin can't take the heat and leaves his team in the midst of the battle just like a good captain should do. the canadians roll four lines that constantly swarm the russian defense like they never have been before.

the one position that mr ovechkin says the team lacked in (goalie) was a bright spot today as glass outperforms both russian netminders showing excellent agility in the opening 5 minutes on a 5 on 3.

canada wins 6 to 1 on a dominating performance.

at the beginning of this tournament i predicted that richards would lay a hit on ovechkin to get the team into it and take ovechkin out of the game. i was kind of right and wrong on the prediction. richards didn't really get him with a good hit but ovechkin (lacking heart possibly) takes himself out of the game with what has been described as a 'sore shoulder'. anyone else think this guy just may be the vince carter of hockey?

So true,I mean why should we respect him If he Is not respecting us??

Ummm, maybe to be the bigger person?

I think saluting the fans who were booing him and giving them the thumbs-up qualifies as respect, doesn't it? As opposed to some of the posts on this thread...

Wasn't he injured earlier in the game? Ever thought thats why he went into back to the locker room? Lets have a little class in this thread if possible.

You are talking about Class?...and on behalf of Ovechkin? Boy, that's a good one!


True champions play with broken arm like Kevin Lowe, with broken ribs like Saku Koivu, with broken leg like Davy Ellot.

They do not show boat and rub salt into the wounds of their opponents then two days later make a public display of a sore shoulder to make sure that the whole world sees his excuse for quitting and then walks out on his team. What a SHAMEFUL DISPLAY for himself, for his teammates and for his country.

This OVECHKIN is nothing more than a CLASSIC CASE OF A PRIMADONNA QUITTER!!!

This is the guy who wants to be like Owen Nolan??!!?? Gimme a break! He was a whining little brat of a boy back when he was flopping around on the ice when he was 16 and he has not grown up one little bit!! The best thing for him at this time is a big slice of humble pie and he just got a little taste of it. He's gonna have to do a lot of growing up if he wants to be a man.

THIS is why I would take Malkin over this quitter any time!

I think saluting the fans who were booing him and giving them the thumbs-up qualifies as respect, doesn't it? As opposed to some of the posts on this thread...

Russia deservers every booing they got.

I wonder if anyone will question Coach Sutter's decision's for keeping and cutting certain players!!! WAY TO GO CANADA!! Poor Ovechkin and Malkin, didn't see to much showboating from them tonight!!

You are talking about Class?...and on behalf of Ovechkin? Boy, that's a good one!


True champions play with broken arm like Kevin Lowe, with broken ribs like Saku Koivu, with broken leg like Davy Ellot.

They do not show boat and rub salt into the wounds of their opponents then two days later make a public display of a sore shoulder to make sure that the whole world sees his excuse for quitting and then walks out on his team. What a SHAMEFUL DISPLAY for himself, for his teammates and for his country.

This OVECHKIN is nothing more than a CLASSIC CASE OF A PRIMADONNA QUITTER!!!

This is the guy who wants to be like Owen Nolan??!!?? Gimme a break! He was a whining little brat of a boy back when he was flopping around on the ice when he was 16 and he has not grown up one little bit!! The best thing for him at this time is a big slice of humble pie and he just got a little taste of it. He's gonna have to do a lot of growing up if he wants to be a man.

THIS is why I would take Malkin over this quitter any time!

See, this is what I find hilarious. He gets insulted because a few years ago he got cross-checked in the back but immediately came back on for the powerplay, and then gets insulted now because he went to the dressing room for an injury in a blowout game.

You are totally pathetic. What the fans do, has nothing to do with team Canada themselve. Fans are allowed to boo any player on the ice. They are allowed to taunt other players. They payed the money to be there, I would boo Ovechkin for the classless ***** he gave to the American players and fans.

How bout Anson Carter? He was booed by Russian fans in Russia. Booed him because of his skin color.


and don't forget the banana throwing! a countries fans should have no representation of a countries national team/program

Congats to CANADA!!! Amazing game, amazing tournament! :bow: :bow: :handclap: :handclap:

Man, we pwned em good. It feels good to beat such a hated team. They are pesky, they are cheap, they are very very very cocky, they hack, they wack, they spear, the spit, the mouth off, the mouth off at the fans, the rub it in. They do everything that deserves for them to be hated. They do everything to label themselves, the hated team.

6-1 pouding? Awesome. It should have been 8-1. THe game wasnt even close. Russia sucked bad this game.

McGuire said it right. Russians portrait themselves very poorly. Canadian players knew it. USA asked the Canadians , beggin em to beat those cocky Russians.

Way ta go Canada.


GO CANADA GOGOGOGOGO!!!

Ovechkin deserved the punishement he got today. Just cant wait til the NHL.


See, that's why Mcguire should be ashamed of himself. This is a prime example of the effect this balding propaganda machine can have on fragile young minds.

Perhaps because discussion boards are about opinions? How about contemplating that for a while.
Once again, I compliment you and respect your opinion. Starved for coverage in this tournament to the ESPN games and radio coverage I offer my opinion. This tournament was ultimately decided by the quality of the defensemen a country could list on their lineup sheet. There wasn't a single country that could even come close to Canada's lineup on defense.

This was not a goalie tournament, maybe Schwartz was the most valuable goalie. Don't know if he was best, but seemed to be the most valuable. The rest struggled when tested. Obviously Glass did well on paper, but again the names on defense and forwards with roles like Dixon, and committment by the other Canadian forwards made him look great.

For offensive talent, again the Canadians get the nod. The Russians had their stars, but could not roll even three lines, mostly played two. The Canadians matched well with Carter, Bergeron and Crosby. Who could come close to that?

The USA tried to counter with speed and skill. They were undersized and weak on defense. Chemistry did not seem right in any game I watched. To much individual effort. End story no hope to defend the gold, and no medal. They played well against the Czechs in both games, but would have no chance against Canada.

There were some very talented young players in this tournament, but the team assembled by Canada (credit Suter) was unstoppable. Congratulations to Team Canada, TEAM, and coach Suter. You deserved to dominate this tournament and win the gold. I wish all the prospects and participents well.

Wow, some Canadian fans are quite sore winners... you should be happy about your victory rather than mock Russia/Ovechkin/whatever...

OUTWIITED, OUTPLAYED, OUTLASTED !!!

As simple as that.

Congrats TEAM CANADA, this was by far the BEST CANADIAN WJC TEAM EVER.

It could now be put along the best Russian teams ever ............................. Just kidding.

CELEBRATE AS YOU SHOULD ALL !

I just replied to someone else who said this and I'll say it again...

Ovechkin brought that on himself.
If he showed class he would have been shown class.

I don't know exactly what Ovechkin did to deserve that but it sounded like he had killed someone. Like Foppa_rules said your team already won the game IMO the crowd should've just concentrated on celebrating, NOT to kick a man when he's already down. That just isn't right. I have never witnessed anything like that before. Let's not make a big deal out of this I just wanted to bring this up 'cos I thought that was just cruel...
Anyway I would like to say again that the better team won, congrats!

whoa... was I shocked at the blowout... the third goal was what ruined the Russians this game!

OUTWIITED, OUTPLAYED, OUTLASTED !!!

As simple as that.

Congrats TEAM CANADA, this was by far the BEST CANADIAN WJC TEAM EVER.

It could now be put along the best Russian teams ever ............................. Just kidding.

CELEBRATE AS YOU SHOULD ALL !

Classy post. :handclap: :)

Congratulations to undrafted Danny Syvret with the winner. That's the best part in my opinion - 30 NHL GMs can be that wrong, twice. It proves this board is necessary!

You are talking about Class?...and on behalf of Ovechkin? Boy, that's a good one!


True champions play with broken arm like Kevin Lowe, with broken ribs like Saku Koivu, with broken leg like Davy Ellot.

They do not show boat and rub salt into the wounds of their opponents then two days later make a public display of a sore shoulder to make sure that the whole world sees his excuse for quitting and then walks out on his team. What a SHAMEFUL DISPLAY for himself, for his teammates and for his country.

This OVECHKIN is nothing more than a CLASSIC CASE OF A PRIMADONNA QUITTER!!!

This is the guy who wants to be like Owen Nolan??!!?? Gimme a break! He was a whining little brat of a boy back when he was flopping around on the ice when he was 16 and he has not grown up one little bit!! The best thing for him at this time is a big slice of humble pie and he just got a little taste of it. He's gonna have to do a lot of growing up if he wants to be a man.

THIS is why I would take Malkin over this quitter any time!


The sad thing is that this guy is already twice the warrior that Nolan is.

WOW...what a game!!!!

Awesome to finally get the gold back!!!:yo::yo:

GO CANADA

NOT to kick a man when he's already down. That just isn't right. I have never witnessed anything like that before. Indeed.....INSTEAD kick a whole TEAM while they're down like Alexander and Malkin did Monday night......right?

You're preaching to the choir here my friend. :shakehead

First team all stars:
G: Marek Schwarz
D: Dion Phaneuf, Ryan Suter
F: Patrice Bergeron, Alexander Ovechkin, Jeff Carter.

Wow, some Canadian fans are quite sore winners... you should be happy about your victory rather than mock Russia/Ovechkin/whatever...
What goes around comes around!! Ovechkin took too much upon himself...
Congratulations to team Canada!! Awesome!!! Amazing!! :handclap:
They just simply squashed russians evrywhere...
Geat-great job by whole team. :yo:
Special praises to Brent Sutter. He had a great talented team on his hands and he made them the best in the world.. :bow:

First team all stars:
G: Marek Schwarz
D: Dion Phaneuf, Ryan Suter
F: Patrice Bergeron, Alexander Ovechkin, Jeff Carter.

Bergeron MVP

Ovechkin voted best forward, and for the record, wasn't on the ice for any of Canada's goals. Malkin was -3.

Full Congrats to Team Canada!

OUTWIITED, OUTPLAYED, OUTLASTED !!!

As simple as that.

Congrats TEAM CANADA, this was by far the BEST CANADIAN WJC TEAM EVER.

It could now be put along the best Russian teams ever ............................. Just kidding.

CELEBRATE AS YOU SHOULD ALL !

Spasibo!!!! :handclap:

2 all: Sorry, J just said "Thank you"...I am russian, but cheer for canadian hockey for quiet sometimes... :)

Man, Phaneuf is a stud.
I want him on the Canucks. :(

See, this is what I find hilarious. He gets insulted because a few years ago he got cross-checked in the back but immediately came back on for the powerplay, and then gets insulted now because he went to the dressing room for an injury in a blowout game.

I've never been a big fan of booing in general, but it's really hard to not boo Ovechkin after the taunting and cockiness he has shown....I would not have booed him, he's an all-star and a talented player, but he brought a lot of the heat on himself and the fans got carried away...it was unfortunate...Ovechkin will have many chances to turn the boos to cheers in the future and hopefully he continues to get better and mature...more importantly, hopefully he does not let the boos get to him and continue with the same behaviour out of protest or anything like that, because it will just be sad for everyone...

are there any box scores for tonights game?

for the record, wasn't on the ice for any of Canada's goals. Malkin was -3.
Astute observation if true. If the Russians split the two stars if tells the tale. That didn't seem to work in any other game they tried it.

His reaction to the boos after the game was anythng but a protest.

See, this is what I find hilarious. He gets insulted because a few years ago he got cross-checked in the back but immediately came back on for the powerplay, and then gets insulted now because he went to the dressing room for an injury in a blowout game.

If he got cross-checked and came back like a man then there would be no story to tell. However, the guy lay flopping around out on the ice for good 5 minutes like he was shot by a rifle until all the medical staff came out to draw a penalty then bounces right back on his feet to come back on the power play.

Yup! A real class...I would have thought that he would have grown up even a little in three years...but no, I think that he actually regressed and has become an even bigger baby!

And this is what I find hilarious. If you can't see why these two actions by this cry baby is pathetic, then...why I even bother...

Ovechkin voted best forward, and for the record, wasn't on the ice for any of Canada's goals.

Not a big accomplishment when you're in the dressing room or chained to the bench for most of the game.

Bergeron MVP

Ovechkin voted best forward, and for the record, wasn't on the ice for any of Canada's goals. Malkin was -3.

Full Congrats to Team Canada!


Well when you only play for a period your plus minus shouldn't be effected that badly.

Well when you only play for a period your plus minus shouldn't be effected that badly.

He played 2 periods.

He finished the tourney +6.
Malkin broke even.

Wow, some Canadian fans are quite sore winners... you should be happy about your victory rather than mock Russia/Ovechkin/whatever...

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

However, I still wouldn't say that Canadian hockey fans are the scum of the earth or anything like that, because there are lots of classy, intelligent and polite people as well. Some of them here on the boards.

congratulations to team Canada for the gold medal,
congratulations to russia for silver and
congratulations to chzecks for bronze
congratulations to USA for 4th place
congratulations to every other team PARTICIPATING

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

However, I still wouldn't say that Canadian hockey fans are the scum of the earth or anything like that, because there are lots of classy, intelligent and polite people as well. Some of them here on the boards.

The fact you weren't 'physically' attacked should be a compliment to the Canadian fans, if you were to walk down a street in many countries after their national sport was played wearing an opposition jersey, I'd fear for your life :)

He played 2 periods.

He finished the tourney +6.
Malkin broke even.

There will be plenty of other threads over the coming months and years to get into this can of worms . . . give it a rest in this one.

....... and Congrats to Canada on a well deserved win.

congratulations to team Canada for the gold medal,
congratulations to russia for silver and
congratulations to chzecks for bronze
congratulations to USA for 4th place
congratulations to every other team PARTICIPATINGCongratulations on your first post at HF.

Ovechkin the next NHL superstar?

Laugh. What a joke.

Congratulations to Team Canada. Great performance.

are there any box scores for tonights game?

sports.yahoo.com usually has box scores for NHL games, but after a brief search (about ten seconds lol) I couldn't find one for the Juniors.

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

However, I still wouldn't say that Canadian hockey fans are the scum of the earth or anything like that, because there are lots of classy, intelligent and polite people as well. Some of them here on the boards.

That's very unfortunate...not overly surprising, but unfortunate....but as is pretty obvious on these boards as well is that people usually respond pretty emotionally at first, without thinking things through. Odds are people thought you were trying to somehow take away from Canada's victory by flying your Finnish flag following a Canadian victory...when NHL teams play against Toronto, the same behaviour can be directed at opposing teams' fans, even though we're all Canadian...that's just the way it goes...I would say that it isn't unique behaviour to Canada either...and it probably is no better or worse than many other countries...

Bottom line is that Canadians will always be very proud and very passionate...and it is upon that basis that they claim to be the best fans in the world...any claim to being perfect fans of course is probably not correct...

Ovechkin the next NHL superstar?

Laugh. What a joke.

Congratulations to Team Canada. Great performance.

Laugh. What a Homer :joker:

Congrats Canada!

Canada did what they had to do: play tough. Phaneuf was trult amazing throughout the whole tournament, and Calgary is one lucky team to have him. I agree with Porn*, I was surprised that it was a blowout.

I can't believe Ovenchicken was crying. Pffft... I'm changing my title back to what it rightfully should be.

The fact you weren't 'physically' attacked should be a compliment to the Canadian fans, if you were to walk down a street in many countries after their national sport was played wearing an opposition jersey, I'd fear for your life :)

The thought occurred to me after one of the riot cops said 'You walking around here tonight with that shirt on, you got my respect' :D

There were a couple close calls, but nothing serious. Would do it again though, it came straight from the heart.

His reaction to the boos after the game was anythng but a protest.

I wasn't talking about his behaviour after the game, I'm talking about the way he will carry himself going forward, in Russia, in the NHL, whereever...Ovechkin will play for Russia many times in the future at other tournaments and events and he will see plenty of North American fans, as well as plenty of North American teams who will think that the best way to defend against him is to be very physical with him...how he responds to that will determine just how much "classless" booing he will receive in the future...I have a hard time believing that he would have been booed at all if not for his previous incidents...I have no problem with his behaviour as long as he's able to accept the consequences...being booed is a consequence...

Who made the Allstar team?

Bergeron, Ovechkin, Phaneuf and Schwarz got awards. Who was on the team?

Bergs got MVP and top scorer, Ovechicken got top forward, Phaneuf top D, and Schwarz top G. WHAT HAPPENED WITH CROSBY? I thought the way he was hyped, he was gonna in top forward, d AND goalie. j/k

But whatever, TSN talked about Getzlaf just being edged out so would the allstar team be Getzlaf, Ovech, Bergeron Phaneuf, Schwarz and one other d????

Jeff Carter was great from what I've read.

Congratulations on your first post at HF.
using my second one to thank you man !! ;)

I can't believe Ovenchicken was crying. Pffft... I'm changing my title back to what it rightfully should be.
Malkin cried too. Many people do cry when they lose. :teach:

An awesome performance. Men playing boys, really, and a second completely dominating performance by Canada during a lockout year. A coincidence? I think not. I'm afraid it would be like this most years if Canada could bring its best every time.

truly a team to remember. Special.

7 goals against World class competition over 6 games.

That says it all.

Two final notes. One, the Russians will be good next year and are the favorites in my opinion.

2nd...does it bother anyone that Ovechkin didn't look that injured, and was sent to the dressing room by the coaches if he wasn't willing to play?

I'm just wondering if other people saw this. I hope I am wrong, but it sure looks like he quit.

Canada gets gold. The World gets great hockey overall. God is great. Amen :bow:

Malkin cried too. Many people do cry when they lose. :teach:

Yeah... I guess I shouldn't be so hard on him.

Who made the Allstar team?

Bergeron, Ovechkin, Phaneuf and Schwarz got awards. Who was on the team?

Bergs got MVP and top scorer, Ovechicken got top forward, Phaneuf top D, and Schwarz top G. WHAT HAPPENED WITH CROSBY? I thought the way he was hyped, he was gonna in top forward, d AND goalie. j/k

But whatever, TSN talked about Getzlaf just being edged out so would the allstar team be Getzlaf, Ovech, Bergeron Phaneuf, Schwarz and one other d????

Jeff Carter was great from what I've read.
Suter was the other D.

That's very unfortunate...not overly surprising, but unfortunate....but as is pretty obvious on these boards as well is that people usually respond pretty emotionally at first, without thinking things through. Odds are people thought you were trying to somehow take away from Canada's victory by flying your Finnish flag following a Canadian victory...when NHL teams play against Toronto, the same behaviour can be directed at opposing teams' fans, even though we're all Canadian...that's just the way it goes...I would say that it isn't unique behaviour to Canada either...and it probably is no better or worse than many other countries...

Bottom line is that Canadians will always be very proud and very passionate...and it is upon that basis that they claim to be the best fans in the world...any claim to being perfect fans of course is probably not correct...


Like I said, I still have respect for Canadian hockey fans. I wasn't even angry at them back then, just surprised. But with stuff like that, it's better to let it go in one ear and out the other.

Russia returns 10 players from this year's team for next year, although Ovechkin will not be one of them. Finland returns essentially their entire team, including goaltender Tuuka Rask, who didn't impress me that much against Canada but he was solid in the tournament. I think both of these teams will be strong. I'm almost shocked about what has happened to Sweden.

Canada only returns 2 players, and Crosby's return is basically dependent on whether there will be NHL hockey next year...so we should savour this victory and get ready for Vancouver next year...hopefully there will be a new wave of juniors ready to defend the title.

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

However, I still wouldn't say that Canadian hockey fans are the scum of the earth or anything like that, because there are lots of classy, intelligent and polite people as well. Some of them here on the boards.
I'm very surprised to hear that... :amazed: . I had number of friends who came down to Toronto for WC. We were walking from their hotel (Harbour ..)to ACC, and they were wearing russian jerseys. But to make more fun they were screaming their lungs out with "GO RUSSIA!! " GO FOR THE GOLD!! ". And guess what: nobody not just said a word to them, but people, wearing canadian jerseys were smiling and looked very friendly. And this took place BEFORE the game CAN-RUS. At ACC ther was a huge amount of russian fans, wearing russian jerseys and waving russian flags and to be honest, they were not at their best behavoir, but again: nobody said anything insulting to them or even objected ...so, that's why I'm surprised at your story.. :dunno:

Like I said, I still have respect for Canadian hockey fans. I wasn't even angry at them back then, just surprised. But with stuff like that, it's better to let it go in one ear and out the other.

Well I'm glad you were able to survive and show some class...it's a difficult thing to do to show class when you're being shown none...but you're a better person for it, I would think...besides, we can't have you thinking that Canadian fans are all great, now can we? ;)

What a great effort. This team Canada was the best that I can ever remember. It all started with Brent Sutter. What an awesome job he has done. That Bergeron goal was something else. Great play by Phaneuf, Crosby, Perry and Bergeron all at the same time. That goal really exemplified the way Canada played in that tournament.

It is a gold medal game. If a player like Ovechkin, who is supposed to be among the next generation of NHL superstars, cannot play through the pain in a championship game, he will never survive a long career in the NHL, especially come playoff time. None of the hits Ovechkin took tonight were really *that* hard, and he leaves a championship game.

Do you know exactly what his injury is? I think not. What if he is out there with a separated shoulder(I head it was a shoulder injury)? You are making it sound like he got a little scratch and couldnt take it.

Congratulations Canada!

WOOOOOOOOOOO!

I must say we deserved that one, rolled over everyone all tournament.

I loved the game, but I must say I certainly appreciated a short sequence in the first where Crosby checked Ovechkin off the puck and forced him offside, then Ovechkin came back later and checked Crosby into the boards and also took on Bergeron as well. These are the future stars of hockey and I respect all of them for mixing it up and playing a hard nosed, clean game when called for, as opposed to floating and waiting for the next scoring chance...Ovechkin is very talented and I look forward to seeing more of him as he gets better.

:bow: Congratulations team Canada, finally a coach who would not let the boys sit back and it paid off with one dominating performance after another. Alot of people predicted Canada would not win, they only looked good due to a weaker pool. They proved beyond a doubt that this year they are far superior to any of the other teams in this tournament. it would not have mattered who they faced in the final the result would have been the same,one sided domination simply put men playing with boys.

Do you know exactly what his injury is? I think not. What if he is out there with a separated shoulder(I head it was a shoulder injury)? You are making it sound like he got a little scratch and couldnt take it.

It was too bad that Ovechkin could not finish the game. Even though he didn't play long enough to make any plays, his presence was obvious and he drew constant attention of course. I have a hard time questioning a player's injury...everyone has different pain tolerances and while I respect a player like Koivu for playing with injured ribs, I'm not going to knock Ovechkin just because it seems like he wasn't hit that hard...an injury is an injury...until there's more information, I don't think we can pass judgment, it's too easy to just assume he was faking/quitting...we don't know for sure...Ovechkin may be a showoff sometimes, but he's obviously passionate about playing for Russia and it doesn't seem to me like he would just quit on his team...blowout or not, it makes sense that he'd rather play...

It was too bad that Ovechkin could not finish the game. Even though he didn't play long enough to make any plays, his presence was obvious and he drew constant attention of course. I have a hard time questioning a player's injury...everyone has different pain tolerances and while I respect a player like Koivu for playing with injured ribs, I'm not going to knock Ovechkin just because it seems like he wasn't hit that hard...an injury is an injury...until there's more information, I don't think we can pass judgment, it's too easy to just assume he was faking/quitting...we don't know for sure...Ovechkin may be a showoff sometimes, but he's obviously passionate about playing for Russia and it doesn't seem to me like he would just quit on his team...blowout or not, it makes sense that he'd rather play...

:handclap: Agreed. Can't pass judgement until you know exactly what it is.

I think the problem with people believing Ovechkin's injury is due to the fact that no Canadian player landed a devistating hit on Ovechkin.

Rather, Ovechkin was hit every time he had the puck, by everyone from Phaneuf to Richards to Bergeron. Ovechkin took at least a dozen 'solid' bodychecks, shoulder to shoulder.

I know I probably wouldn't be able to take that kind of repeated blow from guys who stand at least 6' and weigh over 200lbs.

Ovechkin wanted nothing more then to beat the Canadians. I'll believe in his effort, even though I am EXTERMELY happy to see Canada with the gold.

Props to the Russian players, but CONGRATS to Team Canada.

Thanks for a memorable tournament, boys.

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

Not that I'm trying to make your story seem negligible, but I'm a Sens fan in Toronto. I've had worse ... beer, taunting, gestures, road rage ... you just shouldn't go against the grain in Toronto, hockey-wise, if you don't want to be ostracized.

Not that I'm trying to make your story seem negligible, but I'm a Sens fan in Toronto. I've had worse ... beer, taunting, gestures, road rage
Now, THAT I am not surprised at.. :lol:
Just look at my avtar.. :joker:

Not that I'm trying to make your story seem negligible, but I'm a Sens fan in Toronto. I've had worse ... beer, taunting, gestures, road rage ... you just shouldn't go against the grain in Toronto, hockey-wise, if you don't want to be ostracized.

If only Leafs fans were treated like that in Vancouver. :(

The only fans that are actually verbally abused and beaten up here are from Calgary.

Pierre Maguire...Every hit by Russia was a cheapshot, everytime a player went down it was a dive.this either a lie or selective memory. a russian dman nailed phaneuf and pierre gave him great props and compared him to kasperitus.

so what, who cares what PM says anyhow. the game is on the ice.

and besides, at least Maguire isnt Harry Neale.

dr

What I found simply fantastic this whole tournament, was the Canadian fan turn-out at the games. Every game Team Canada played had loads of Team Canada fans in the stands cheering the boys on. Hockey is truly alive and loved by Canadians.

Congratulations Team Canada!
Thank you team Canada Fans for making watching the games on TV that much more enjoyable!

and besides, at least Maguire isnt Harry Neale.

dr

That's like saying at least cancer isn't AIDS...

Not that I'm trying to make your story seem negligible, but I'm a Sens fan in Toronto. I've had worse ... beer, taunting, gestures, road rage ... you just shouldn't go against the grain in Toronto, hockey-wise, if you don't want to be ostracized.

Being a sens fan in T.O. must be hell..........

Congrats boys, way to bring home the final piece of hardware to officially crown Canada champions in every major competition :handclap:

PWNAGE!

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

However, I still wouldn't say that Canadian hockey fans are the scum of the earth or anything like that, because there are lots of classy, intelligent and polite people as well. Some of them here on the boards.

Not that I would do that to you, but what do you expect?!?!?!? You ARE in Canada, and Finland lost. I'd say that was very brave of you to do that. If I'd of been in your shoes, I wouldn't have had the nerve........... :shakehead

Singing "Na-na Goodbye" with 10 minutes to go? Wow thats classless. No one with a sense of desency can be happy for a team who's fans show such disrespect.
I think this was the funniest post here. How long has this tradition been a part of hockey? If youre insulted by that song, stop watching this sport. Seriously

I think the problem with people believing Ovechkin's injury is due to the fact that no Canadian player landed a devistating hit on Ovechkin.

Rather, Ovechkin was hit every time he had the puck, by everyone from Phaneuf to Richards to Bergeron. Ovechkin took at least a dozen 'solid' bodychecks, shoulder to shoulder.
But if he continues to talk smack when he makes it to the NHL, he better be prepared to watch many 3rd period from the dressing room.

He made a target of himself and was taken out of the game playing with kids. If he's going to pull that **** playing with the big boys...

Not that I would do that to you, but what do you expect?!?!?!? You ARE in Canada, and Finland lost. I'd say that was very brave of you to do that. If I'd of been in your shoes, I wouldn't have had the nerve........... :shakehead

The same would happen if i would wear a Canada Jersey during a Hockey Tournament in Finland, come on...

If anybody wants to accuse Canadians of being classless, just remember 2002 in Russia where the Russians decided to come all the way from their end of the ice to celebrate in front of the Canadian bench, and spit at Canadian players to boot.

Yes, I haven't forgotten that either. Some people around here, though, seem to have short memories.

Do you know exactly what his injury is? I think not. What if he is out there with a separated shoulder(I head it was a shoulder injury)? You are making it sound like he got a little scratch and couldnt take it.

Brett Hull played the entire 1999 Stanley Cup Finals (6 games) with a completely torn groin. He couldn't walk, yet he battled through it and ended up scoring the Cup Winning Goal. (Please, no crease jokes)

It is that kind of determination that leads teams to championships. Captain Ovechkin didn't lead his team tonight. If he was hurt bad enough that he really couldn't play, he should have sat on the bench with his team.



I know I probably wouldn't be able to take that kind of repeated blow from guys who stand at least 6' and weigh over 200lbs.


Ovechkin is 6'1" , 212 lbs himself, and he is in a lot better physical shape than any of us here. If he can't handle that kind of physical play, he is going to get killed in the NHL.

If only Leafs fans were treated like that in Vancouver. :(

The only fans that are actually verbally abused and beaten up here are from Calgary.
Oh, c'mon...we are good...well, some of us...like me. :p:

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

However, I still wouldn't say that Canadian hockey fans are the scum of the earth or anything like that, because there are lots of classy, intelligent and polite people as well. Some of them here on the boards.
If you go back and read the GDT thread of that final WC game (if its still around), its full of congrats to Finland. Theres a big differnce between drunk mob mentality and real people.

I found mad respect for Finland on this board and in the pub I was in watching game (maybe because everyone in Calgary loves Finlands goalie)

Do you know exactly what his injury is? I think not. What if he is out there with a separated shoulder(I head it was a shoulder injury)? You are making it sound like he got a little scratch and couldnt take it.

Bryan Trottier, Bob Gainey, Ryan Walter, Peter Forsberg...all players that toughed out dislocated shoulders or broken ankles to play in championship games. Looked more to me a player that lacked intestinal fortitude...unless it was a broken collarbone, with which you can't do squat.

Haha, people who are judging Ovechkin on this have very little hockey knowledge. Like it or not, Ovechkin is *probably* the best drafted prospect in the NHL and he has a very very good career infront of him. He's a keeper.

Haha, people who are judging Ovechkin on this have very little hockey knowledge. Like it or not, Ovechkin is *probably* the best drafted prospect in the NHL and he has a very very good career infront of him. He's a keeper.
I sure hope so and wish Alex all the best in the world and lot's of luck. And I do belive that he will be a star in the NHL, but he is still very young and has to learn a thing ot two.. :)

Now Canadians can say they are undisputedly the best hockey nation on earth.

Under 17 World Champs.
Under 20 World Champs.
Men's World Champs.
Women's World Champs.
Olympic Champs.
:bow:
Hard to believe that in 1998 they had a "What's wrong with Canadian Hockey" Summit.

Life is made of peaks and valleys, and hockey is no exception.This is a peak time, let's hope that we don't get down on our country the next time we are in a valley. :teach:

No stranger to the success is the soul searching that was done in 98. Hockey Canada has put more emphasis on skill development, and less on the "intangibles".

One thing to remember for everyone talking about "playing with injuries". All the players and situations mentioned involve either the Stanley Cup or a major mens world championship. If you were Ovechkin, and you knew you had an injury, would you risk damaging your future pro career for the sake of a junior tournament you've already won before? I sure as hell wouldn't.

Haha, people who are judging Ovechkin on this have very little hockey knowledge. Like it or not, Ovechkin is *probably* the best drafted prospect in the NHL and he has a very very good career infront of him. He's a keeper.

He has talent, for sure. Will he have a very, very good career? We'll see. I remember Alexandrov, who played with the Red Army in the 70's. Was supposed to surpass the great Kharlamov. Eventually, he couldn't carry his jockstrap.

Talent is one thing; getting hammered regularly in the NHL, during a 82 game schedule, THEN playing in the playoffs for 2 months. That takes more than talent. It takes commitment and intestinal fortitude. That is where we separate the good from the legend. We'll see if this wonder will do the job.

Ovechkin is an incredible individual talent. No question. He needs to pick up the rest, now. He's young. He can learn. Tonight, he learned a valuable lesson: never, ever brag and boast with Canadians. They will make you pay. A humbling lesson.

Man, this kid would have trouble playing in Montreal :lol

He made a target of himself and was taken out of the game playing with kids. If he's going to pull that **** playing with the big boys...

He was a target long before he decided to talk smack. He was a target for Canada long before the first game of the tournament was played.

One thing to remember for everyone talking about "playing with injuries". All the players and situations mentioned involve either the Stanley Cup or a major mens world championship. If you were Ovechkin, and you knew you had an injury, would you risk damaging your future pro career for the sake of a junior tournament you've already won before? I sure as hell wouldn't.


OK, then. Bob Gainey had won 4 Stanley Cups when he played with TWO separate shoulders. What's the point? Did Mark Messier take it easy after one cup?

That's what separate legends from good players.

Haha, people who are judging Ovechkin on this have very little hockey knowledge. Like it or not, Ovechkin is *probably* the best drafted prospect in the NHL and he has a very very good career infront of him. He's a keeper.

You are right and he is clearly one of the top prospects out there - but man, someone had better take charge of this guy and soon! His actions through the previous games set this up - and that is and has always been part of the game. Like someone posted earlier - in hockey, what goes around ALWAYS comes around. This guy is going to have to deal with far more adversity over the next few years than anything he faced during this tournament, and he shows all the signs of needing some significant maturing and advice or he will flame out like a whole lot of previous drafted prospects have.

On the game, first of all, congrats to a great team that showed that every single one of them was the right choice, that played like a disciplined team throughout the tournament, and showed a lot of class throughout this game. Men among boys.

Some other thoughts:

- there are a lot of posters on all sides that need to take a deep breath and calm down. Talking smack anonymously from behind your computer screens seems somehow worse than a very public taunt from a player.

- Phaneuf - what can you say. We are going to be talking about this guy in the NHL for a long, long time.

- Bergeron, however, was the best player in the tournament, imho. He did it all - some great passes, some pretty goals, and some determined checking.

- Crosby's time will come. I don't believe that he was much of a factor, really - any talented winger playing with Bergeron and Perry would have done as much (or close), but the kid shows flashes of the brilliance to come. If he gets another chance in Vancouver next year, look out (although the only way that happens is if the lockout is still on).

- Glass turned out to be a good choice after all, despite my doubts.

- Weber is also a horse that we will be talking about for a long time.

Overall, a great and dominant win. Congrats, boys. :bow:

Ovechkin is 6'1" , 212 lbs himself, and he is in a lot better physical shape than any of us here. If he can't handle that kind of physical play, he is going to get killed in the NHL.

I dont see him being as much of a target in the NHL as he was in this sole game. In fact, I don't recall one player being targetted so much in recent memory in terms of physicality.

A regular NHL season game isn't nearly as physical as this World Junior Championship game.

Congratulations to Team Canada, and in particular the returning players who stood on the other blue line last year. This has to be especially rewarding for them. I expected a much closer game, but this one made it a little more relaxing to watch!

On a side note, did anyone else notice Richards lead the salute to the fans? A very classy move!

Phew!

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Thanks to the Russian and Canadian Fans who could actually watch the game and provided commentary. The thread was very entertaining to read. Congrats Canada.

He was a target long before he decided to talk smack. He was a target for Canada long before the first game of the tournament was played.
Ya, but he added incentive. How often do we hear of opposing players quotes being put up in the locker room?

I'm not taking away from the kid, I'm just saying thats something he'll have to learn. This could be something that follows him for a while (you know how how the media loves to milk stories). He's got a lot more to prove now (1st overall pick, rep of quitting on his team, being a soft player, being cocky and not putting up...).

Then again, if he has a great rookie season, we'll see how short fan's memories are.

Congradulations to Canada on a dominating tournament!! :handclap:

IM SURE THERE WERE MANY AMERICANS IN THE STANDS TOO... R U POSITIVE IT WASNT THEM BOOING?
Good point.

The tournament was held in the USA. I'm sure the building wasn't 100% Candian.

Well, it went down pretty much like I expected. Russia did manage to get one lucky one, but otherwise, it was pure domination. I personally just wish fans of some countries could be a little more objective and realize when the best they can throw on the ice is simply overmatched. I mean, some Russian fans were predicting 2 goal Canadian victories. I think I saw one misguided soul claiming that the Russians actually had a chance of winning!

Anyways, I hope Russian players and fans now realize that they simply don't compare to real hockey players.

Well, it went down pretty much like I expected. Russia did manage to get one lucky one, but otherwise, it was pure domination. I personally just wish fans of some countries could be a little more objective and realize when the best they can throw on the ice is simply overmatched. I mean, some Russian fans were predicting 2 goal Canadian victories. I think I saw one misguided soul claiming that the Russians actually had a chance of winning!

Anyways, I hope Russian players and fans now realize that they simply don't compare to real hockey players.

Well, you certainly do your username proud, at any rate. Remind me again what happened in the 2002 and 2003 WJCs?

One thing to remember for everyone talking about "playing with injuries". All the players and situations mentioned involve either the Stanley Cup or a major mens world championship. If you were Ovechkin, and you knew you had an injury, would you risk damaging your future pro career for the sake of a junior tournament you've already won before? I sure as hell wouldn't.

You seem to be making an awful lot of excuses for a guy who, in my opinion, just gave up.

Well, you certainly do your username proud, at any rate. Remind me again what happened in the 2002 and 2003 WJCs?
Why? Thats history. Remind us again of what happened 1992-1997. Same history.

2005 - Canada wins. Congrats.

Tomorrow, theres still no nhl.

ps, dont even respond to posts like that.

Thanks, Grand Forks and UND for hosting the tournament and tolerating the hordes of drunken Canuckistani invaders during the tournament.



1. The "punishment" Ovechkin took tonight is not even a regular season game's worth in the NHL.

I disagree. Most regular season NHL games don't have nearly this level of intensity, unfortunately. And not many NHL teams have as many players committed to physical intimidation as Team Canada did tonight.

I think this was probably a learning experience for Ovechkin. He's always going to be a marked man because of his high skill level, but there's no reason to bring extra attention to yourself with antics. Was he really hurt? I don't have any reason to doubt it. I'm not going to question the character of a guy who I know very little about. However, I think that next time he plays hockey in North America, he will not be pointing to his name-tag or wearing a funkadelic cool-guy visor. I think he probably saw the negative side of the extra attention he brings to himself.

I'm not taking away from the kid, I'm just saying thats something he'll have to learn. This could be something that follows him for a while (you know how how the media loves to milk stories). He's got a lot more to prove now (1st overall pick, rep of quitting on his team, being a soft player, being cocky and not putting up...).


I dont get this....first, you are try to take away from him...thats ok of course, but at least admit it. Other than this board I havent seen the media writing about what happened the other night....links? and where is this rep for quitting on his team? or being soft? or not putting up? Other than a bunch of HF posters that just seem to hate him......where else is this writen? Who is saying this so that he now has this reputation?

I dont get this....first, you are try to take away from him...thats ok of course, but at least admit it. Other than this board I havent seen the media writing about what happened the other night....links? and where is this rep for quitting on his team? or being soft? or not putting up? Other than a bunch of HF posters that just seem to hate him......where else is this writen? Who is saying this so that he now has this reputation?

Just curious: why do you think what the mass media think of him is important. It's his reputation within the hockey community that will matter, and I can guarantee you that folks involved in USA hockey will remember his actions from his tournament, as will players, scouts, GMs etc who were watching this game. Media, and yes, HFBoards, are irrelevant.

Just curious: why do you think what the mass media think of him is important. It's his reputation within the hockey community that will matter, and I can guarantee you that folks involved in USA hockey will remember his actions from his tournament, as will players, scouts, GMs etc who were watching this game. Media, and yes, HFBoards, are irrelevant.

I wasnt the one who mentioned how the media will run with this for a long time.....

I can guarantee you something....every GM in the NHL would love to have him on their team

also....what he did the other night was nothing compared to things I have seen Barnaby do.....I havent seen him carried off in a body bag before.....

this whole thing is the most blown out of proportion thing I have ever seen here

I dont get this....first, you are try to take away from him...thats ok of course, but at least admit it. Other than this board I havent seen the media writing about what happened the other night....links? and where is this rep for quitting on his team? or being soft? or not putting up? Other than a bunch of HF posters that just seem to hate him......where else is this writen? Who is saying this so that he now has this reputation?
Well, first off, thanks for not quoting my enitre message (I ended saying that a great rookie season will erase the negative rep he's gained tonight).

And when I went to TSN's wrap up of the US - Ruskie game immediatly following the game, there were 2 short paragraphs at first, one on the game, one on the showboating (Ovechkin pointing at his jersey was mentioned, none of the scorers were mentioned yet). So ya, thats a story. Sorry if I didnt quote numerous sources, but if tomorrow there is no mention of Ovechkin's absence and quotes and showboating, I'll issue you an apology.

This was the game he was watched most in north america, and he didnt finish the game after talking the talk. Sorry if I think that'll stick with him until he has a great rookie season

this whole thing is the most blown out of proportion thing I have ever seen here
Perhaps, but you seem to underestimate how under-the-microscope a 1st overall pick can be. You seriously dont think the media will pick up on this?

Perhaps, but you seem to underestimate how under-the-microscope a 1st overall pick can be. You seriously dont think the media will pick up on this?

well....on TSN site this is all I can find.....and on the typical sites in the states I cant find anything, and if anything the states should be where I find things...considering thats who was offended so badly

"the game came to a rather ugly ending as Ovechkin and Malkin each took turns taunting the American team and the fans after their second goals - both empty netters - of the night."

http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_Story.asp?ID=109881

The guy is cocky...no doubt....but again, Ive seen worse in the NHL. Barnabys antics for example...and what Ribeiro did will stay with him much longer than this Ovechkin thing

The guy is cocky...no doubt....but again, Ive seen worse in the NHL. Barnabys antics for example...and what Ribeiro did will stay with him much longer than this Ovechkin thing
But of all the players you mentioned, only 1 was a 1st overall pick. Hell, we still hear about Daigle.

I cant think of 1 specific Barnaby antic (I just know he's a doofus) and forgot about Ribeiro (he's not a big enough name). But most will remember Bertuzzi's incident and Sundin throwing the stick and Alfie pretending to. Superstar's incidents stick in peoples brains. Hell, we even heard of Federov's soap opera with Anna K.

Time will tell I guess.

Pierre Mcguire on the Russians diving "They gotta start calling the diving, these Russians go down like free beer at a frat party"!!

I LOVE IT!!
pierre used that same line when pronger got in his first fight as a whaler. pierre was coach. it made the hockeys news" quotes of the year. leave it to pierre to rip off his own lines.

this either a lie or selective memory. a russian dman nailed phaneuf and pierre gave him great props and compared him to kasperitus.

so what, who cares what PM says anyhow. the game is on the ice.

and besides, at least Maguire isnt Harry Neale.

dr

Right, I do believe you just proved my point.

well....on TSN site this is all I can find.....and on the typical sites in the states I cant find anything, and if anything the states should be where I find things...considering thats who was offended so badly

"the game came to a rather ugly ending as Ovechkin and Malkin each took turns taunting the American team and the fans after their second goals - both empty netters - of the night."

http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_Story.asp?ID=109881

The guy is cocky...no doubt....but again, Ive seen worse in the NHL. Barnabys antics for example...and what Ribeiro did will stay with him much longer than this Ovechkin thing

What, so because a less than reputable CANADIAN sports network vaguely accuses Ovechkin of "taunting", everyone blindly piles on the most ludicrous criticisms regarding a kid whose entire life has been described as a focused, mature, selfless leader. All the while completely ignoring the fact that AO didn't taunt the American bench, that it was Malkin, who simultaneously has become the better player in the minds of these same fans despite trailing Ovechkin in every statistical category.

:lol

I missed this while reading this thread when the game was going on, but is it true that one of the Canadian players taunted the Russians by tugging on his jersey in the direction of the Russian bench after a goal?

IM SURE THERE WERE MANY AMERICANS IN THE STANDS TOO... R U POSITIVE IT WASNT THEM BOOING?

Yea, the 1/3 American crowd did all the booing while the Canadian fans just hung their heads at the disgusting Americans :shakehead

What, so because a less than reputable CANADIAN sports network vaguely accuses Ovechkin of "taunting", everyone blindly piles on the most ludicrous criticisms regarding a kid whose entire life has been described as a focused, mature, selfless leader. All the while completely ignoring the fact that AO didn't taunt the American bench, that it was Malkin, who simultaneously has become the better player in the minds of these same fans despite trailing Ovechkin in every statistical category.

:lol

So, let me get this straight: you - a less than reputable AMERICAN member of HF Boards - believe that your posts are going to be any more successful at changing people's opinions on Alexander Ovenchicken?

:lol :lol :lol :lol

Yea, the 1/3 American crowd did all the booing while the Canadian fans just hung their heads at the disgusting Americans :shakehead

oh cmon, its just all fun and games. When people swing american flags in Canadian stadiums we boo just as hard. Gimme a damn break. Its just the way of the fan. Its all fun and games, when a russian makes fun of you.

anyways, its great seeing tears flow from the Russians. Its time they swallow their pride.
:yo:

I dont get this....first, you are try to take away from him...thats ok of course, but at least admit it. Other than this board I havent seen the media writing about what happened the other night....links?

It's been all over the press here - print and screen. Not to mention word of mouth. Here's one of a dozen mentions:
http://tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_Story.asp?ID=109881

It was in the globe, the National, Slam and other locals too.

Just because no one cares in the the states doesn't mean no one else does.

a reply in that artical....

"Russia will pay 2morrow 4 repeating the same stupidity Kovalchuk did a few years ago."

indeed they russians payed. Humilated 6-1.

Their actions labled themselves a team you love to hate.

This game will be a good learning experience for Ovechkin. I agree the booing may have been out of line but if he is any kind of competitor (and it looks like he really is) this will teach him that you can't act that way and play in NA. He was a target out there and if he doesn't want that to continue he'll learn to play with more humility.

Ultimately this should fire him up to raise his game to a new level. Cause even as good as he is, he has a long way to go before he could be called the next Federov. He has that potential and this game should help move him closer to that level.

Ovechkin.... level up.

just watch.

And I gotta say this about the Russia team. I may not have liked them, but I sure respected them. Kudos to them on a solid tournament and a well deserved silver medal.

What, so because a less than reputable CANADIAN sports network vaguely accuses Ovechkin of "taunting", everyone blindly piles on the most ludicrous criticisms regarding a kid whose entire life has been described as a focused, mature, selfless leader.

This is the point where you become a poster completely devoid of all credibility. Congrats.

anyways, its great seeing tears flow from the Russians. Its time they swallow their pride.
:yo:

Amen to that ;)

I was just replying to the fan who blamed the Americans for booing Ovechkin because it couldn't have been the arena full of Canadien fans :D

We all know Canadiens wouldn't boo another teams best player - only Americaans do that :lol

If Russia wins, they'll never be given any credit.. people will always look for something bad to say about them.. these guys got absolutely no credit for coming back fom being down 0:2 and 1:3 in 2002 and winning gold.. then they got absolutely no credit when they beat Canada on home ice and were down 1:2 in the 3rd in 2003...

but no, these guys don't have any heart and determination and it's all luck..
You're so wrong. I've been listening very closely to commentators' comments and also interviews with Canadian management and they all said that Russia was the superior team in all the years they've won. I've heard Bob Nicholson said twice that Canada came very close to win but that Russia was better in 2003 and gave credit to their incredible come back. The only time the commentators and Canadian management said that Canada should have won was last year against the US. Again, I've also heard that at least twice. I think you unconciously disregard those comments and only remember the biased comments because that's what "shocks" you. People tend to remember more the bad part and forget the good part. We're all biased more or less and Canadians TV commentators are also guilty but you are exagerrating the degree of our bias.

We all know Canadiens wouldn't boo another teams best player - only Americaans do that :lol

1] they wouldn't without all the crap he pulled on the americans (see the cheers saku koivu got at the canada cup, if you bothered to watch)
2] it's Canadians, not Canadiens.

This is the point where you become a poster completely devoid of all credibility. Congrats.

Devoid of credibility for being wrong, or just participating (out of sheer boredome)? I'd give you the latter. ;)

It's been all over the press here - print and screen. Not to mention word of mouth. Here's one of a dozen mentions:
http://tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_Story.asp?ID=109881

It was in the globe, the National, Slam and other locals too.

Just because no one cares in the the states doesn't mean no one else does.

Did you actually see what happened? TSN was reaching.

Did you actually see what happened? TSN was reaching.

Yes, I watched the entire game. I add to this 16 years of hockey experience (and 25 of watching) and I say he was taunting. If you want to add two or three years of watching NASCAR as a relative reference for judging acceptable behaviour, that's great.

Yes, I watched the entire game. I add to this 16 years of hockey experience (and 25 of watching) and I say he was taunting. If you want to add two or three years of watching NASCAR as a relative reference for judging acceptable behaviour, that's great.

I say it was borderline- at best.

Nascar?

One thing to remember for everyone talking about "playing with injuries". All the players and situations mentioned involve either the Stanley Cup or a major mens world championship. If you were Ovechkin, and you knew you had an injury, would you risk damaging your future pro career for the sake of a junior tournament you've already won before? I sure as hell wouldn't.

If I'm a pro scout, I would question whether or not he would do it for my team. Ovechkin was hell bent on beating Canada. All the taunting he did to the Americans was all for nothing if he lets a seemingly minor injury keep him out of a championship game.

I know you see this tournament as nothing but a scouting mission, but the players don't see it that way. At least in Canada, kids dream about winning the World Juniors.


I dont see him being as much of a target in the NHL as he was in this sole game. In fact, I don't recall one player being targetted so much in recent memory in terms of physicality.


Ovechkin had better get used to it if he doesn't change his attitude towards his opponents. NHL bruisers won't just nail him with clean bodychecks either.

Nascar?

Your posts are nascar quality. If you can't see he was taunting, you have never played hockey. It's that simple.

Your posts are nascar quality. If you can't see he was taunting, you have never played hockey. It's that simple.

NASCAR quality? :rolleyes:

How provincially pretentious and revealing of you.

NASCAR quality? :rolleyes:

How provincially pretentious and revealing of you.


um..okay. back to the point though. You are wrong, and anyone who has actually played hockey will tell you so.

Honestly, the only guy who's really an embarassment out of all of this is Pierre Mcguire. Fair enough, you hate Russia and love Canada, fine. But try to maintain at least some sense of objectivity through all of this, would you?
Pierre Mcguire doesn't hate Russia, he just REALLY loves Canada. It doesn't matter if it's against Russia, the US or the Czech Republic, Canadians are always angels in his views.

um..okay. back to the point though. You are wrong, and anyone who has actually played hockey will tell you so.

Totally agreed. If you don't think AO taunted the US team, imagine if you were one of the players sitting on the American bench. I for one would take EXTREME offense to any of the crap Ovechkin and Malkin pulled after their amazing empty-netters. If you don't see this, obviously there's no point in trying to convince you.

um..okay. back to the point though. You are wrong, and anyone who has actually played hockey will tell you so.

I've played hockey and 5 other team sports. It could have been water polo. Who cares? It was hardly flagrant taunting. At best it's arguable. This is way too embittered.

I'm just going to agree with everything you say, completely disingenuously, and get some sleep.

this is taunting-

:razz:

Totally agreed. If you don't think AO taunted the US team, imagine if you were one of the players sitting on the American bench. I for one would take EXTREME offense to any of the crap Ovechkin and Malkin pulled after their amazing empty-netters. If you don't see this, obviously there's no point in trying to convince you.

Care to back that up with anything? I'm all ears. Was it the kissing of his crest, or showing the nameplate to the American fans that was directed at the American bench/players.

I've played hockey and 5 other team sports. It could have been water polo. Who cares? It was hardly flagrant taunting. At best it's arguable.

Alright, let me rephrase that. Anyone who's played hockey in Canada knows that is taunting. It's that simple.

Erocaps, you notice how no one is coming to defend you?

It's nice that after 7 years of being beaten up on by everyone from Russia to Khazakstan to USA, Canada finally gets one, but what a horrible tournament this was. Not a single great game involving Canada. How dissapointing is it that in the year that Canada has put out its best squad in 10 years, every other world power put out either one of, or their worst.

Frankly, I don't see much to celebrate here.
What kind of a twisted logic is that?!? Are you Canadian because it really doesn't sound like you are.