Ovechkin Pretending to score before a game

TheJackal
01-04-2005, 12:43 PM
Has anyone seen this apparently Canada told the IIHF that if he does it tonight there will be hell to pay.
Here is what TSN is reporting.
Ovechkin (http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_story.asp?ID=109954&hubName=world_jrs)

Gator Mike
01-04-2005, 12:47 PM
I'm sure it's something Ovechkin does to get himself in the right frame of mind menally (...mental rehearsal is often used by sports psychologists), but there's a time and a place for it.

Crossroads*
01-04-2005, 12:47 PM
I hope he does do it so Canada could try to set him straight.

Blackshad
01-04-2005, 12:51 PM
When you know you are good you are better than the guy that doesnt know he is good. I heard this somewhere i think.

Boucicaut
01-04-2005, 12:52 PM
I hope he does do it so Canada could try to set him straight.

I hope he doesn't, because he'd end up looking like an idiot and some of retaliating Canadians would end up looking like bloodthirsty Neanderthals.

Crossroads*
01-04-2005, 12:57 PM
I hope he doesn't, because he'd end up looking like an idiot and some of retaliating Canadians would end up looking like bloodthirsty Neanderthals.

The bottom line is that if he hopes to play in the NHL he cannot continue this. NHL teams will not tolerate embarassment. His attitude needs MAJOR readjustment before he steps into the NHL for his own sake...

Levitate
01-04-2005, 01:03 PM
i think it's just stupid and then people will run around making excuses for him.."oh it's his ritual! it gets him ready for the game! let him do it! blah blah blah!" obviously it pisses a lot of people off (and i'm sure someone will say that's a good thing) but it's gonna cause more problems than it's worth if he keeps it up.

but christ...that honestly sounds like something a 5 year old would do...sorry ovechkin, you're not cool doing that...

Boucicaut
01-04-2005, 01:03 PM
The bottom line is that if he hopes to play in the NHL he cannot continue this. NHL teams will not tolerate embarassment. His attitude needs MAJOR readjustment before he steps into the NHL for his own sake...

I agree. He needs to mature.

Reilly311
01-04-2005, 01:05 PM
lol, Canada is whining.

DynamoAO
01-04-2005, 01:07 PM
but christ...that honestly sounds like something a 5 year old would do...sorry ovechkin, you're not cool doing that...

Man, why you gotta crush AO's feelings like that, Levitate! You know he looks up to you!

habfan4
01-04-2005, 01:09 PM
It may seem ridiculous, but there is a reason that teams are assigned a side of the rink to warm up on before games (think back to Quebec/Montréal brawls or Philly/Montréal brawls). The WJC officials should have a chat with Ovechkin and make it clear that he stays on his side of centre.

Safir*
01-04-2005, 01:10 PM
AO should line up for the Wizzards.

espo
01-04-2005, 01:13 PM
lol, Canada is whining.
ease off...you're out of this tourney for all intents and purposes.We are cutting off at the pass the crap they pulled with you guys last game and which you and your fans did'nt like.

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 01:13 PM
Please, any Russian posters don't be mad at me, but all of the Russians I have ever met were rude by our western standards. Regardless, maybe the kid doesn't even know he's being a jackass. We north americans do have different standards than they do. Someone just needs to tell him to calm down and that his behavior is not acceptable on north american ice. If he continues to do it after that, then he gets what's coming to him. This is only a stab at an explanation. :dunno:

habfan4
01-04-2005, 01:15 PM
Please, any Russian posters don't be mad at me, but all of the Russians I have ever met were rude by our western standards. Regardless, maybe the kid doesn't even know he's being a jackass. We north americans do have different standards than they do. Someone just needs to tell him to calm down and that his behavior is not acceptable on north american ice. This is only a guess. :dunno:

:shakehead Brutal generalization - Way to add to the thread.

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 01:16 PM
:shakehead Brutal generalization - Way to add to the thread.

I think you failed to see my point. I said they were rude by our standards. Doesn't make them terrible people. Geez. My overall point is that maybe, due to different standards, that he doesn't even realize what he's doing is wrong.

DynamoAO
01-04-2005, 01:17 PM
Please, any Russian posters don't be mad at me, but all of the Russians I have ever met were rude by our western standards. Regardless, maybe the kid doesn't even know he's being a jackass. We north americans do have different standards than they do. Someone just needs to tell him to calm down and that his behavior is not acceptable on north american ice. If he continues to do it after that, then he gets what's coming to him. This is only a stab at an explanation. :dunno:

C-J..., is that you?

Reilly311
01-04-2005, 01:18 PM
ease off...you're out of this tourney for all intents and purposes.We are cutting off at the pass the crap they pulled with you guys last game and which you and your fans did'nt like.


Ok, but that doesn't change the fact that Canada is whining.

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 01:18 PM
C-J..., is that you?

huh?

CSKA
01-04-2005, 01:20 PM
I think you failed to see my point. I said they were rude by our standards. Doesn't make them terrible people. Geez. My overall point is that maybe, due to different standards, that he doesn't even realize what he's doing is wrong.

you need help

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 01:21 PM
you need help

I try to offer a logical explanation and you guys get touchy. I don't think you even understand what I am saying.

maybe this is better...

"AO is an obnoxious little pr$ck and should be crosschecked in the head by phaneuf." that's what you guys seems to like to talk about.

DynamoAO
01-04-2005, 01:21 PM
huh?

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=120937

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 01:23 PM
http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=120937


please. there's nothing similar to that thread and this one. I didn't say Russians were horrible knuckle draggers who hate Canadians or something equally as ignorant as that. All I said was what we consider rude, they may not. What's so wrong with that?

Levitate
01-04-2005, 01:24 PM
It may seem ridiculous, but there is a reason that teams are assigned a side of the rink to warm up on before games (think back to Quebec/Montréal brawls or Philly/Montréal brawls). The WJC officials should have a chat with Ovechkin and make it clear that he stays on his side of centre.

and this is a very good point...

LaVal
01-04-2005, 01:24 PM
just leave Phaneuf in front of the net. if Ovechkin comes in to do his ritual, and pretend to score, Phaneuf can do a ritual too, and pretend to do an open ice body check on a player driving to the net. if Ovechkin comes into Canada's zone and runs into it, it's his fault.

CSKA
01-04-2005, 01:26 PM
I try to offer a logical explanation and you guys get touchy. I don't think you even understand what I am saying.

maybe this is better...

"AO is an obnoxious little pr$ck and should be crosschecked in the head by phaneuf." that's what you guys seems to like to talk about.

You are a western standard ? oh boy

Levitate
01-04-2005, 01:27 PM
are you guys purposefully missunderstanding him or something?

cmon

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 01:28 PM
You are a western standard ? oh boy

what is that supposed to mean?

Why don't you read what I wrote instead of getting all touchy. I didn't say Russians were horrible people or anything remotely close to that.

ZombieMatt
01-04-2005, 01:29 PM
The whole thing seems silly.

It's like last year in the playoffs when somebody always fired a puck from their end of the ice into the opposing net...so somebody turned the net backwards.

These people need to get their heads screwed on right.

I thought all this talk about AO's attitude was ridiculous. Now, at the tournament most watched by scouts and fans (for juniors), he's sitting on the bench to watch the zamboni, skating across a boundary which exists for a reason to do a silly ritual, and excessively celebrating goals (although I personally find it pretty funny).

espo
01-04-2005, 01:33 PM
Ok, but that doesn't change the fact that Canada is whining.
And you guys did'nt do any of that during the taunting episode when you played them last? my god it got so bad they had to close down two or three threads because of it. I mean, why bother getting on here telling us we are whining when you think about what happened with your guys last game with them.Does'nt make sense to me. But you can say what you want...i would'nt deny you that.I just don't think it has a lot of logic to it here.

Levitate
01-04-2005, 01:33 PM
is this about to deginerate into another "nation" bashing thread? :shakehead

do we really need these "western standards" posts?

ZombieMatt
01-04-2005, 01:35 PM
another west standart :lol:

I assume you're talking about the ankle break.

Okay, yes, what Bobby Clarke did was obviously wrong and classness, and very few people condone it.

But you need to give your head a shake if you think that the host Russians were anything less than equally as questionnable with their tactics. Both on the ice, with the stick infractions, and more importantly, with the intimidation of having police, military, and other "policing agencies" surrounding the playing surface.

It was a vicious series of hockey. But it was one which ALL parties engaged in equally.

MOGiLNY
01-04-2005, 01:35 PM
Holy **** you people will pick on Ovechkin for anything! What's next, are you going to call him a puke because he wears the wrong socks??

This is just pathetic! Concentrate on the game, not on what Ovechkin does BEFORE the game..

MOGiLNY
01-04-2005, 01:36 PM
I assume you're talking about the ankle break.

Okay, yes, what Bobby Clarke did was obviously wrong and classness, and very few people condone it.

But you need to give your head a shake if you think that the host Russians were anything less than equally as questionnable with their tactics. Both on the ice, with the stick infractions, and more importantly, with the intimidation of having police, military, and other "policing agencies" surrounding the playing surface.

It was a vicious series of hockey. But it was one which ALL parties engaged in equally.

You are kidding, right? Police and military was present at every game back then, just because you were intimidated doesn't mean jack..

jet228
01-04-2005, 01:38 PM
The whole thing seems silly.

It's like last year in the playoffs when somebody always fired a puck from their end of the ice into the opposing net...so somebody turned the net backwards.

These people need to get their heads screwed on right.

I thought all this talk about AO's attitude was ridiculous. Now, at the tournament most watched by scouts and fans (for juniors), he's sitting on the bench to watch the zamboni, skating across a boundary which exists for a reason to do a silly ritual, and excessively celebrating goals (although I personally find it pretty funny).

THANK YOU!!!! What is wrong with people all of the sudden on these boards?? A couple of stupid immature events happen in a hockey game and all the sudden everyones got the guns blazin on the boards. This is no place for biggoted comments or threats... bottom line is these are GAMES people! If you feel the need for violence, take up boxing or play in your local men's league... most of us here are trying to discuss hockey.

If any nonsense happens in the game today, the players will sort it out. I'm hoping that it wil be a fast paced aggresive clean game with lots of action. In the close knit world of hockey, players with issues usually have them sorted out, many times by thier own teammates...

Bottom line is, when stuff like this happens in a JUNIOR tournament, it's to be expected, they're KIDS... we however are adults... let's act like it!

habfan4
01-04-2005, 01:40 PM
Holy **** you people will pick on Ovechkin for anything! What's next, are you going to call him a puke because he wears the wrong socks??

This is just pathetic! Concentrate on the game, not on what Ovechkin does BEFORE the game..

So I gather you don't think that Ovechkin's pre-game ritual has the potential to cause a problem. I do agree on one thing you posted, perhaps it's time for everyone (Ovechkin included) to focus on the game instead of these school yard antics.

Levitate
01-04-2005, 01:45 PM
This is just pathetic! Concentrate on the game, not on what Ovechkin does BEFORE the game..

the problem is that what he does before the game could impact the game...i mentioned this in another thread...but if you keep pissing off people, something bad is eventually gonna happen. and i'm not condoning it in any way, but if you taunt and mock other teams and players, you're creating a hostile atmosphere and someone could try to take you out just to get back at you for that.

it doesn't just "not mean anything", if ovechkin is angering a lot of players and people with his actions, he has to hope that someone isn't going to injure him to shut him up. yeah, maybe it seems stupid, but again...people do crazy stuff when they're provoked

MOGiLNY
01-04-2005, 01:45 PM
So I gather you don't think that Ovechkin's pre-game ritual has the potential to cause a problem. I do agree on one thing you posted, perhaps it's time for everyone (Ovechkin included) to focus on the game instead of these school yard antics.

It's a friggin PRE-GAME RITUAL!!

Stop picking the poor guy apart! He's only 19, and you guys are already bashing him for.... PRE GAME RITUAL! WHen you can't find anything wrong with his game, this is what you have to resort to, isn't it?

ZombieMatt
01-04-2005, 01:46 PM
You are kidding, right? Police and military was present at every game back then, just because you were intimidated doesn't mean jack..


Just because it happened frequently does not make it reasonable or any less of a problem.

If you don't think the insane amount of intimidation the Russian military and police put on the team had an effect on them I suggest you do some research. I'm sorry, but no matter how you cut it, being in that setting, which the fear of being taken by the military or KGB, or some other organization you've never heard of and executed or shipped to Siberia WAS a concern MANY of the Canadian players had. Many of the players acknowledge that the intimidation factor severely effected them.

I've done an enormous amount of academic research on the Summit Series. In the DVD series, if my memory is precise, about 5-8 of the Canadian players directly discuss the role of intimidation (on and off the ice) in the series. In the collectors card (20th Anniversary, I forgot who produced them, it was not a mainstream hockey card company, however), set, which included typically a quotation from both the player and then usually a media quote about the series and the player, an additional number (I believe it was 3-5) identify the same thing as an issue and a problem they faced.

I'm not trying to say that the Soviet Union was dirtier in the series. Far from it. I'm saying that BOTH teams partook in different types of illicit behaviour. Just because it wasn't as obvious as Clarke's travesty does not mean it was not there.

EDIT: Anyhow, if you want to discuss the Summit Series I'd be more than willing to. Like I said, I'm poured huge amounts of time and effort into it. But this thread is about AO's actions.

bb74
01-04-2005, 01:47 PM
Usually you can get some pretty good debate & poised viewpoints on these boards...

AO is out of place going into the Canadian ice during warm-ups. It's the rules (as well as code of conduct). He goes in - it's 2 min minor for unsportsmanship. No need to beat the crap out of him for being arrogant, he'll get whatever he will get in due time if he keeps this stuff up.

He's a phenomenal talent and I imagine the attitude goes with the territory, however what he doesn't realize is that some guys out on the ice will bury him for it...
It's not a pissing contest, a simple fact so please don't start with the my AO is tougher than your DP stuff - that's not the point...

As for the game tonight, I like the Canadian match-ups against the Russians and expect this to be a tight checking game. As a Boston fan, I'm really excited to see what Bergeron brings to the table as he will likely get a fair amount of time out there with either Malkin or AO when Carter isn't on the ice, so it will be interesting to see how much his Hockey sense can make up for a disadvantage in the skating dept.

Here's to a good game & Canada 3 : Russia 2!

MOGiLNY
01-04-2005, 01:47 PM
the problem is that what he does before the game could impact the game...i mentioned this in another thread...but if you keep pissing off people, something bad is eventually gonna happen. and i'm not condoning it in any way, but if you taunt and mock other teams and players, you're creating a hostile atmosphere and someone could try to take you out just to get back at you for that.

it doesn't just "not mean anything", if ovechkin is angering a lot of players and people with his actions, he has to hope that someone isn't going to injure him to shut him up. yeah, maybe it seems stupid, but again...people do crazy stuff when they're provoked

the stupidest thing Canada can do is to retaliate..

first of all if Canada is so good, and Ovechkin and Russia are so bad, then take the high road, beat them on the ice and show class while doing so.. that would be the biggest embarassment to RUssia, not if 10 players ganged up on Ovechkin.

second of all, if Canada starts retaliating, all they are doing is taking a lot of DUMB penalties and thus hurting their chances of winning gold

habfan4
01-04-2005, 01:50 PM
It's a friggin PRE-GAME RITUAL!!

Stop picking the poor guy apart! He's only 19, and you guys are already bashing him for.... PRE GAME RITUAL! WHen you can't find anything wrong with his game, this is what you have to resort to, isn't it?

First, find me a post where I have criticized Ovechkin (I'll spare you an exhaustive search - I HAVEN'T).

As I said in an earlier post, the teams get separate sides to warm up on for a reason. In a gold medal game emotions are running high, you never know what kind of response you'll get to players pushing the envelop in terms of the games unwritten rules or decorum.

oilers_guy_eddie
01-04-2005, 01:51 PM
I love how people behind computer moniters are making empty threats toward AO. It's REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL cool.
The people behind the computer monitors are not the ones making the threats. Team Canada officials have already talked to the IIHF to tell them that there will probably be an incident if Ovechkin comes onto Canada's side of the rink during the warm-up. That's not coming from us computer nerds, that's coming from Team Canada. We are not threatening Ovechkin, we are trying to inform you that there is the potential for a confrontation.

Team Canada players will not let Ovechkin skate through their zone and pretend to score on their goalie before the game. You might see it as harmless fun; Team Canada players will see it as showboating, and an attempt to intimidate or psych out the goalie. I doubt they would attempt to cheap-shot him, but they would certainly grab him or tackle him to stop him from doing it. He would be surrounded by Canadian players yelling at him and shoving him; Russian players would come to help him, and you get a scrum that could easily turn into a brawl.

I don't really want to see both teams disqualified and the bronze medal game turned into the gold medal game. I would prefer to see a hockey game. So I think IIHF officials, having been informed of the potential for trouble, should ensure that Ovechkin follows rules of conduct during the warm-up.

MOGiLNY
01-04-2005, 01:53 PM
Just because it happened frequently does not make it reasonable or any less of a problem.

If you don't think the insane amount of intimidation the Russian military and police put on the team had an effect on them I suggest you do some research. I'm sorry, but no matter how you cut it, being in that setting, which the fear of being taken by the military or KGB, or some other organization you've never heard of and executed or shipped to Siberia WAS a concern MANY of the Canadian players had. Many of the players acknowledge that the intimidation factor severely effected them.

I've done an enormous amount of academic research on the Summit Series. In the DVD series, if my memory is precise, about 5-8 of the Canadian players directly discuss the role of intimidation (on and off the ice) in the series. In the collectors card (20th Anniversary, I forgot who produced them, it was not a mainstream hockey card company, however), set, which included typically a quotation from both the player and then usually a media quote about the series and the player, an additional number (I believe it was 3-5) identify the same thing as an issue and a problem they faced.

I'm not trying to say that the Soviet Union was dirtier in the series. Far from it. I'm saying that BOTH teams partook in different types of illicit behaviour. Just because it wasn't as obvious as Clarke's travesty does not mean it was not there.

just because the players were intimidated doesn't mean they were meant intimidated.. I'm guessing they just weren't used to the military presence and such, but it's true that thse guys are always present at the games.. even today..

and from the research I've done, the commies just couldn't afford to intimidate Canadian players. it was their goal to show the Canadians that the Soviet system is better than the western world and thus did everything they could to make the players feel good about their stay.. from what I know the players got royal treatment by Russian standards during that series.

Charlie_Girl
01-04-2005, 01:53 PM
the stupidest thing Canada can do is to retaliate..

first of all if Canada is so good, and Ovechkin and Russia are so bad, then take the high road, beat them on the ice and show class while doing so.. that would be the biggest embarassment to RUssia, not if 10 players ganged up on Ovechkin.

second of all, if Canada starts retaliating, all they are doing is taking a lot of DUMB penalties and thus hurting their chances of winning gold
Well said!

I doubt it will become an issue anyways - the refs have been put on notice that they need to prevent AO from crossing centre ice.

hossy316
01-04-2005, 01:53 PM
The people behind the computer monitors are not the ones making the threats. Team Canada officials have already talked to the IIHF to tell them that there will probably be an incident if Ovechkin comes onto Canada's side of the rink during the warm-up. That's not coming from us computer nerds, that's coming from Team Canada. We are not threatening Ovechkin, we are trying to inform you that there is the potential for a confrontation.

Team Canada players will not let Ovechkin skate through their zone and pretend to score on their goalie before the game. You might see it as harmless fun; Team Canada players will see it as showboating, and an attempt to intimidate or psych out the goalie. I doubt they would attempt to cheap-shot him, but they would certainly grab him or tackle him to stop him from doing it. He would be surrounded by Canadian players yelling at him and shoving him; Russian players would come to help him, and you get a scrum that could easily turn into a brawl.

I don't really want to see both teams disqualified and the bronze medal game turned into the gold medal game. I would prefer to see a hockey game. So I think IIHF officials, having been informed of the potential for trouble, should ensure that Ovechkin follows rules of conduct during the warm-up.

Well said. :handclap:

Rocky Saginuts
01-04-2005, 01:54 PM
It's a friggin PRE-GAME RITUAL!!

Stop picking the poor guy apart! He's only 19, and you guys are already bashing him for.... PRE GAME RITUAL!

What the hell does that mean? If it's called a "ritual", it's OK?

Another poster said it best. A 19 year old's ritual doesn't trump a long history of code of conduct in the sport.

Stay on your own side of the ice!

ZombieMatt
01-04-2005, 01:54 PM
the stupidest thing Canada can do is to retaliate..

first of all if Canada is so good, and Ovechkin and Russia are so bad, then take the high road, beat them on the ice and show class while doing so.. that would be the biggest embarassment to RUssia, not if 10 players ganged up on Ovechkin.

second of all, if Canada starts retaliating, all they are doing is taking a lot of DUMB penalties and thus hurting their chances of winning gold

You're right and wrong.

Knowing full well that Canada has made the IIHF aware of this, the stupidest thing that could be done is if AO actually does this again. It would be remarkably selfish and unnecessary if he did this KNOWING that if he does it'll start his team short-handed.

It would be even dumber if he does do AND Canada retaliates by attacking him. That would negate the penalty he took I'm sure and also put a negative image on the team, as well as simply being unnecessary.

ACC1224
01-04-2005, 01:56 PM
just because the players were intimidated doesn't mean they were meant intimidated.. I'm guessing they just weren't used to the military presence and such, but it's true that thse guys are always present at the games.. even today..

and from the research I've done, the commies just couldn't afford to intimidate Canadian players. it was their goal to show the Canadians that the Soviet system is better than the western world and thus did everything they could to make the players feel good about their stay.. from what I know the players got royal treatment by Russian standards during that series.

not from what I read...Phil Esposito talks about some of the stuff that went on in his book, interesting read.

Wolfpack
01-04-2005, 01:56 PM
Canadian Team officials have brought their concerns about AO's pre-game antics to the attention of the IIHF, and I'm sure he will be given a penalty if he tries it tonight.

My bigger concern is how the tendancy to "dive" by the Russians will affect this game. Canada wants to go out there and hit, and based on what I've seen in previous games the Russian players are not above throwing themselves to the ice and thrashing around to get a penalty. Those kinds of actions can ruin what potentially should be a pretty good game.

My hope is that the refs call the game the way it should be called. It would be a shame if they gave the Russians a bunch of undeserved powerplays.

espo
01-04-2005, 01:57 PM
The people behind the computer monitors are not the ones making the threats. Team Canada officials have already talked to the IIHF to tell them that there will probably be an incident if Ovechkin comes onto Canada's side of the rink during the warm-up. That's not coming from us computer nerds, that's coming from Team Canada. We are not threatening Ovechkin, we are trying to inform you that there is the potential for a confrontation.

Team Canada players will not let Ovechkin skate through their zone and pretend to score on their goalie before the game. You might see it as harmless fun; Team Canada players will see it as showboating, and an attempt to intimidate or psych out the goalie. I doubt they would attempt to cheap-shot him, but they would certainly grab him or tackle him to stop him from doing it. He would be surrounded by Canadian players yelling at him and shoving him; Russian players would come to help him, and you get a scrum that could easily turn into a brawl.

I don't really want to see both teams disqualified and the bronze medal game turned into the gold medal game. I would prefer to see a hockey game. So I think IIHF officials, having been informed of the potential for trouble, should ensure that Ovechkin follows rules of conduct during the warm-up.
Very well said

ZombieMatt
01-04-2005, 01:59 PM
just because the players were intimidated doesn't mean they were meant intimidated.. I'm guessing they just weren't used to the military presence and such, but it's true that thse guys are always present at the games.. even today..

and from the research I've done, the commies just couldn't afford to intimidate Canadian players. it was their goal to show the Canadians that the Soviet system is better than the western world and thus did everything they could to make the players feel good about their stay.. from what I know the players got royal treatment by Russian standards during that series.

Interesting to hear the Russian side of it. I admit that there isn't a great deal of literature translated into english for me to read of Russian perspective on the subject.

I'm not certain who is right, but many of the stories the Canadian team and staff returned with was the relatively poor treatment, even though it may not have been intended to be such. Just things like not being allowed to go numerous places, always being very obviously followed by cars, etc.

One story I remember is the CLAIM of a (I believe, my memory isn't entirely clear) media member saying that the Russians closed everything done after the game so the Canadian team couldn't celebrate. There is a quote of a player recalling sitting on the floor of the hotel room eating crackers with peanut butter on it as a victory toast. I always found it hysterical. :dunno:

trahans99
01-04-2005, 02:03 PM
lol, Canada is whining.


US were crybabies Can is whinning

Habsfan 32
01-04-2005, 02:08 PM
The people behind the computer monitors are not the ones making the threats. Team Canada officials have already talked to the IIHF to tell them that there will probably be an incident if Ovechkin comes onto Canada's side of the rink during the warm-up. That's not coming from us computer nerds, that's coming from Team Canada. We are not threatening Ovechkin, we are trying to inform you that there is the potential for a confrontation.

Team Canada players will not let Ovechkin skate through their zone and pretend to score on their goalie before the game. You might see it as harmless fun; Team Canada players will see it as showboating, and an attempt to intimidate or psych out the goalie. I doubt they would attempt to cheap-shot him, but they would certainly grab him or tackle him to stop him from doing it. He would be surrounded by Canadian players yelling at him and shoving him; Russian players would come to help him, and you get a scrum that could easily turn into a brawl.

I don't really want to see both teams disqualified and the bronze medal game turned into the gold medal game. I would prefer to see a hockey game. So I think IIHF officials, having been informed of the potential for trouble, should ensure that Ovechkin follows rules of conduct during the warm-up.


Very well said my man.

Rocky Saginuts
01-04-2005, 02:16 PM
Way to go...great to have the likes of you around. Do you even understand what you are saying? That's a criminal offense and you are eager to see it happen...seek help quickly, there are professionals who can help you.

It's a reference to the '72 series and if you don't understand it, you don't know much about hockey.

It was also a joke, which means you also don't know much about humour.

DynamoAO
01-04-2005, 02:20 PM
The people behind the computer monitors are not the ones making the threats.

Deep breathe in....deep breathe out....ok here I go...


Phaneuf hopefully has some bulleyes for Ovechkin and Malkin

I hope Phaneuf or Weber puts Ovechkin and Malkin where they belong. Out Cold!

I hope he does do it so Canada could try to set him straight.

"AO is an obnoxious little pr$ck and should be crosschecked in the head by phaneuf."

just leave Phaneuf in front of the net. if Ovechkin comes in to do his ritual, and pretend to score, Phaneuf can do a ritual too, and pretend to do an open ice body check on a player driving to the net. if Ovechkin comes into Canada's zone and runs into it, it's his fault.

Canada should send out Stewart to flatten the ugly bugger. It would be well worth the penalty. Better yet, get Bobby Clarke to come out of the stands and break his ankle!

Let Malkin and Ovechkin do what they like, their payback is coming. Oh yes, it is.

H-Bear
01-04-2005, 02:21 PM
Canadian Team officials have brought their concerns about AO's pre-game antics to the attention of the IIHF, and I'm sure he will be given a penalty if he tries it tonight.

My bigger concern is how the tendancy to "dive" by the Russians will affect this game. Canada wants to go out there and hit, and based on what I've seen in previous games the Russian players are not above throwing themselves to the ice and thrashing around to get a penalty. Those kinds of actions can ruin what potentially should be a pretty good game.

My hope is that the refs call the game the way it should be called. It would be a shame if they gave the Russians a bunch of undeserved powerplays.You are touching on a pet peeve of mine here. My pet peeve is with the refs; I HATE IT when they call two penalties (ie: one for diving, and one for tripping)! It is one or the other. Either the guy got tripped or the guy dove; have some balls and call one or the other!

espo
01-04-2005, 02:22 PM
Deep breathe in....deep breathe out....ok here I go...
This was kinda funny actually.I had a good laugh here.All the examples of the threats..........pretty keen of you i think.

Crossroads*
01-04-2005, 02:23 PM
just leave Phaneuf in front of the net. if Ovechkin comes in to do his ritual, and pretend to score, Phaneuf can do a ritual too, and pretend to do an open ice body check on a player driving to the net. if Ovechkin comes into Canada's zone and runs into it, it's his fault.

Lol, that would be funny. All you'd hear is Mcguire saying 'WHAMMO! OVECHKIN JUST GOT DIONED BEFORE THE GAME EVEN STARTED!'

Boucicaut
01-04-2005, 02:32 PM
It's a reference to the '72 series and if you don't understand it, you don't know much about hockey.

It was also a joke, which means you also don't know much about humour.

I am perfectly aware of the reference. It doesn't make your post look any better. While I am not claiming to be the oracle of hockey, at least I am not making comments about other people's knowledge. And if that was a joke, it was the worst I've ever seen.

You scored twice...in your own net.

DynamoAO
01-04-2005, 02:33 PM
Lol, that would be funny. All you'd hear is Mcguire saying 'WHAMMO! OVECHKIN JUST GOT DIONED BEFORE THE GAME EVEN STARTED!'

YEA! AND ALL THE FANS CAN TYPE AFTER IT HAPPENS, "HAHAAHAH I E-TOLD YOU IT WOULD HAPPEN ALEX AAHAHA!!!one!1one!"

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 02:37 PM
Deep breathe in....deep breathe out....ok here I go...


way to take what I said out of context. go back and read my post. I do commend you for wasting all that time quoting everyone. nice job!

DynamoAO
01-04-2005, 02:39 PM
way to take what I said out of context. go back and read my post. I do commend you for wasting all that time quoting everyone. nice job!

Yea...I took a QUOTE of your's out of context, right.

Thanks too, it really took me alot of energy to left click, hover over text, then right click. I really should be commended.

PEli*
01-04-2005, 02:45 PM
just leave Phaneuf in front of the net. if Ovechkin comes in to do his ritual, and pretend to score, Phaneuf can do a ritual too, and pretend to do an open ice body check on a player driving to the net. if Ovechkin comes into Canada's zone and runs into it, it's his fault.

I think this is fair.

What Ovechkin does is no concern of mine. If he wants to go and pretend to score on the opposition's net, he can. If he doesn't think there's anything wrong with it, that's fine. I can't speak for players on the opposing team but I have a feeling that they wouldn't appreciate it.

Team Canada could take this as an insult or a challenge. Either way, they'll respond. It's simple. There will be a reaction towards his antics.

bonefizzle
01-04-2005, 02:48 PM
if i were canada's coach i would just tell one player.. probably stewart.. that if AO pulls this stunt.. u go after him and beat the piss out of him 1on1 before the game even starts... that way ovechkin gets dummied for doing it.. and both team don't get disqualified.. if anything those 2 get put out of the game, which isn't a bad trade off AO out and stewart out... hurts russia way more then canada.. and stewart can go home happy knowing he did his part to bring home the gold.. haha

bonefizzle
01-04-2005, 02:49 PM
or if he does it crosby should go do it to them , except with the puck on his stick , wrap around lacrosse style , like he did before haha

Boucicaut
01-04-2005, 02:53 PM
if i were canada's coach i would just tell one player.. probably stewart.. that if AO pulls this stunt.. u go after him and beat the piss out of him 1on1 before the game even starts... that way ovechkin gets dummied for doing it.. and both team don't get disqualified.. if anything those 2 get put out of the game, which isn't a bad trade off AO out and stewart out... hurts russia way more then canada.. and stewart can go home happy knowing he did his part to bring home the gold.. haha

Yeah, a great idea. You're such a shining intellect. You left out a couple details though: Stewart gets 1) a police escort 2) criminal charges and 3) some prison time.

Foppa_Rules
01-04-2005, 02:57 PM
That Canadian defenceman TAUNTED Ovechkin when he said, "He likes the mike, I guess" after Ovechkin said Russia had to play like they did two years ago. Now I want to see some criticism--equal to the criticism of Ovechkin--of that arrogant Canadian defenceman for taunting Ovechkin and team Russia.

Slick Nick
01-04-2005, 02:59 PM
Please, any Russian posters don't be mad at me, but all of the Russians I have ever met were rude by our western standards. Regardless, maybe the kid doesn't even know he's being a jackass. We north americans do have different standards than they do. Someone just needs to tell him to calm down and that his behavior is not acceptable on north american ice. If he continues to do it after that, then he gets what's coming to him. This is only a stab at an explanation. :dunno:

Yeah that's true, remember Ivan Drago.. he was rude :joker:

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 03:01 PM
Yea...I took a QUOTE of your's out of context, right.

Thanks too, it really took me alot of energy to left click, hover over text, then right click. I really should be commended.

"I try to offer a logical explanation and you guys get touchy. I don't think you even understand what I am saying.

maybe this is better...

"AO is an obnoxious little pr$ck and should be crosschecked in the head by phaneuf." that's what you guys seems to like to talk about.

as a matter of fact you did take that out of context. I'm not even going to explain it if you're not bright enough to figure that out on your own. :shakehead

bonefizzle
01-04-2005, 03:02 PM
Yeah, a great idea. You're such a shining intellect. You left out a couple details though: Stewart gets 1) a police escort 2) criminal charges and 3) some prison time.

what the heck are you talking about.. are u trying to tell me that if their was a fight during the world juniors a person would get charged. that is probably the most rediculous post i have ever seen on here.. i can't even believe i'm replying to it

Rocky Saginuts
01-04-2005, 03:03 PM
Yeah, a great idea. You're such a shining intellect. You left out a couple details though: Stewart gets 1) a police escort 2) criminal charges and 3) some prison time.

Cripes pal! What do you think people are trying to write here? Political manifestos maybe? If I said Sutter should pull an Uzi out of his hockey bag and start strafing the Russian bench, would you tell me that he would be doing a naughty thing, and may be brought up before the local magistrate.

Get a grip on NON-reality! This is just for fun.

Better yet, stop being everyone's conscience, and go away...

crossxcheck
01-04-2005, 03:03 PM
Yeah that's true, remember Ivan Drago.. he was rude :joker:

you know a conversation has gone astray when you start talking about rocky :D

Old Hickory
01-04-2005, 03:17 PM
Good job on getting this thread closed guys. Something to remember stay on topic and don't attack each other and they will remain open