Tournament all-star team?

Medal games remain, what would your all-star team look like?

3 Forwards, 2 defensemen, 1 goaltender.

My picks...

F: Alexander Ovechkin
F: Rosty Olesz
F: Patrice Bergeron
D: Dion Phaneuf
D: Dimitri Vorobiev
G: Jeff Glass

My picks...

F: Alexander Ovechkin
F: Rosty Olesz
F: Patrice Bergeron
D: Dion Phaneuf
D: Dimitri Vorobiev
G: Jeff Glass


Change the G and I'll agree with you.

My picks...

F: Alexander Ovechkin
F: Rosty Olesz
F: Patrice Bergeron
D: Dion Phaneuf
D: Dimitri Vorobiev
G: Jeff Glass
I Agree, but I'm not sure about G.

I Agree, but I'm not sure about G.Yeah, that's a tough choice.

Guess it can also go to Marek Schwarz, but if Glass wins the Gold and has a good performance, I can see him winning it.

F: Alexander Ovechkin
F: Evgeny Malkin
F: Patrice Bergeron
D: Dion Phaneuf
D: Dimitri Vorobiev
G: Marek Schwartz
I think Glass was way to shaky to win it... though this year nobody really outshined all others in goal
:dunno: :help: :dunno:

F: Jeff Carter
F: Rosty Olesz
F: Patrice Bergeron
D: Dion Phaneuf
D: Dimitri Vorobiev
G: Mark Schwartz

Change the G and I'll agree with you.
Yeah, it's gotta be Al Montoya. :lol :lol :lol I think it should be Marek Schwartz, not Jeff Glass.

I can't see how Carter wouldn't be named this year. His overall game this year has shown me that he has been Canada's best forward so far. His points are right up there again, and he has been given the assignment of being matched against the opponent's top line. How he has done in that role as well makes me think he will get one of the spots since he has played a large role in shutting them down. While Bergeron's and Crosby's point totals are largely padded by the PP, most (if not all) of Carter's goals have been even strength. Lastly, I think the players are picked from the media following the tournament if I am not mistaken, and Carter has been given a TON of air-time lately. I will even go as far as saying he has been Canada's MVP so far, IMHO.

I will also go out on a limb and say the gold medal game will be his best game of the tournament, again when everything such as offense, defence, faceoffs, when he is send out there by Sutter, etc. The big 2 will HAVE to be shut down to win the gold and Carter will have had a major role in that if we win.

F Ovechkin
F Bergeron
F Olesz
D Phaneuf
D Vorobiev
G Schwarz

The tournament is not over.

I think some of the positions are still open.

I would say that Patrice Bergeron, Dion Phaneuf, and Alex Ovechkin have clinched their spots.

What happens in the final will determine if Jeff Carter, Evgeni Malkin, or Rusty Olesz gets the third forward spot.

The goaltender will likely be the winner of the tournament unless its a goal-fest, and then it should go to Marek Schwarz.

The second defender is a tough call, I really don't know.

F: Ovechkin
F: Olesz
F: Bergeron
D: Phaneuf
D: Suter
G: Schwarz

F: Ovechkin
F: Olesz
F: Bergeron
D: Phaneuf
D: Suter
G: SchwarzRyan Suter really shouldn't be named ahead of Vorobiev.

Though he's the better prospect.

Vorobiev? There's no way this guy is on the all-star team over Meszaros.

F Patrice Bergeron
F Alexander Ovechkin
F Rostislav Olesz
D Dion Phaneuf
D Andrej Meszaros
G Marek Schwarz

Vorobiev? There's no way this guy is on the all-star team over Meszaros.
He has 2 more points in the same number of games and is +8 compared to Meszaros' +3... the opponent has yet to score an ES goal when Vorobiev is on the ice. He's been Russia's #1 defenseman and has been key on the PP for the team.

Vorobiev? There's no way this guy is on the all-star team over Meszaros.

Why?

Ryan Suter really shouldn't be named ahead of Vorobiev.

Though he's the better prospect.

I'm going on ryan's numbers and his solid defensive play on an otherwise crappy defensive squad.

I'm going on ryan's numbers and his solid defensive play on an otherwise crappy defensive squad.
7 points in 6 games, -2

or...

6 points in 5 games, +8

... both defenses being equivalently mediocre.

He has 2 more points in the same number of games and is +8 compared to Meszaros' +3... the opponent has yet to score an ES goal when Vorobiev is on the ice. He's been Russia's #1 defenseman and has been key on the PP for the team.
I dunno, do both Vorobiev & Meszaros play on the ice by themselves or is there a point to this.
Are you a Leaf fan perhaps or are you just a "stats guy"?

I dunno, do both Vorobiev & Meszaros play on the ice by themselves or is there a point to this.
Are you a Leaf fan perhaps?I am.

And no, they don't play by themselves.

I dunno, do both Vorobiev & Meszaros play on the ice by themselves or is there a point to this.
Are you a Leaf fan perhaps or are you just a "stats guy"?
Just wondering: How many games did you get to see Mesaros play?? and what about Vorobiev?

Just wondering: How many games did you get to see Mesaros play?? and what about Vorobiev?
I have seen Meszaros & Vorobiev each play once.
And you?
Btw, Leaf fan?

I have seen Meszaros & Vorobiev each play once.
And you?
Btw, Leaf fan?Because we're Leaf fans, that automatically makes everything we have to say about Meszaros and Vorobiev worthless?

Because we're Leaf fans, that automatically makes everything we have to say about Meszaros and Vorobiev worthless?

I mean, if Alvaro Montoya was a Leaf prospect, you'd probably name him goaltender of the tournament.

Because we're Leaf fans, that automatically makes everything we have to say about Meszaros and Vorobiev worthless?
Did I say that? But I suspect that is the basis upon which you are saying Vorobiev.
And if you were discussing the two players before last nights game, I'm sure you would have been citing Meszaros superior offensive performance on a substantially worse team, no? :shakehead :shakehead

Did I say that? But I suspect that is the basis upon which you are saying Vorobiev.
And if you were discussing the two players before last nights game, I'm sure you would have been citing Meszaros superior offensive performance on a substantially worse team, no? :shakehead :shakeheadVorobiev stepped up with 4 assists against team USA and has been tremendous with the Russian team throughout the tournament.

I mean, if Alvaro Montoya was a Leaf prospect, you'd probably name him goaltender of the tournament.That's enough out of you.

:shakehead

F Patrice Bergeron
F Alexander Ovechkin
F Rostislav Olesz
D Dion Phaneuf
D Andrej Meszaros
G Marek Schwarz
Agreed, except by tournaments end, aka the the jeff carter show(finals), I think either Carter or Getzlaf will be named ahead of Olesz.

F- Patrice Bergeron, Canada
F- Alexander Ovechkin, Russia
F- Rostislav Olesz, Czech Republic

honorable mention: Jeff Carter, Canada; Ryan Getzlaf, Canada; Evgeni Malkin, Russia

Bergeron and Ovechkin are locks really, and somebody has to knock Olesz out of his spot IMO. Carter has been dominant at times which is why he deserves mention despite not being at the top in points (although he's up there).

D- Dion Phaneuf, Canada
D- Dmitry Vorobiev, Russia

honorable mention: Shawn Belle, Canada

With Phaneuf there should be no question, he has hit (with several big hits), played huge minutes on a stacked blueline in every possible situation, made only a couple mistakes, and gotten a handful of assists to boot. Vorobiev has quietly been very good and put up some solid blueline numbers to boot. Belle has been the secodn strongest Canadian defenseman as far as I'm concerned, he has really standed out, not just because Pierre McGuire constantly mentions him, but because he is really showing good stuff out there. He has really shown far more than i think anybody expected of him going in.

G- Marek Schwarz, Czech Republic

honorable mention: Jeff Glass, Canada

Glass' .915 save pct. is good enough for 2nd amongst tournament starters. Definitely should not be goalie of the tournament, but worthy of an honorable mention nonetheless. I think it gives the general tone of the goaltending in this tourney. It is Schwarz's award, he is the only goalie that one can point to and say has put in a consistently good tournament. The only goalie that has shown to be currently capable of stealing games for his team as well as take his team to the medal round.

Keep the thread clean or else it will get locked.

F Patrice Bergeron
F Alexander Ovechkin
F Rostislav Olesz
D Dion Phaneuf
D Dmitry Vorobiev
G Jeff Glass

Bergeron
Ovechkin
Carter or Malkin (which ever team wins gold)
Phaneuft
Vorobiev
Schwartz

7 points in 6 games, -2

or...

6 points in 5 games, +8

... both defenses being equivalently mediocre.

And yet you are the one who says numbers can be decieving. Suter has shown up both offensively and defensively every night. Vorobiev had a 4 assist game to really help out his stats(1 assist was on an EN goal).

And yet you are the one who says numbers can be decieving. Suter has shown up both offensively and defensively every night. Vorobiev had a 4 assist game to really help out his stats(1 assist was on an EN goal).This is a short tournament, using junior stats to determine the NHL potential of a player can be off.

And the fact that Vorobiev hasn't been on the ice for any of Russia's goals scored against is important.

Bergeron
Ovechkin
Carter/Malkin (i agree it depends on who wins and has the bigger game tomorrow)
Phaneuf
Mezaros

Shwartz

And the fact that Vorobiev hasn't been on the ice for any of Russia's goals scored against is important.

Yep...maybe it means that he has been surrounded by defensively responsible players, and he's just along for the ride ;).

F Patrice Bergeron
F Alexander Ovechkin
F Rostislav Olesz
D Dion Phaneuf
D Andrej Meszaros
G Marek Schwarz

This is a short tournament, using junior stats to determine the NHL potential of a player can be off.

And the fact that Vorobiev hasn't been on the ice for any of Russia's goals scored against is important.

I've seen all of the USA games (except the czech game) and I can tell you that Suter has played great defensively. The numbers tell only a very little about someone's defensive capabilities. You can pretty much throw them out the window.

F Patrice Bergeron
F Alexander Ovechkin
F Rostislav Olesz
D Dion Phaneuf
D Andrej Meszaros
G Marek Schwarz
I doubt you will se that many Czechs and Slovaks on the team, particularly if both coutries finish out of the medals IMO .. and Schwarz didn't even play against the USA in there most important game to advance to the medal round and that will certainly effect the results .. I could easily see the winning goalie of the goal medal game make the team .. Schwarz will have to have a great game against the USA to make it ..


Usually the Gold Medal game plays a big part of All-Star teams ..

I have to say I'm pretty surprised. There is not a single mention of Shea Weber as an all-star dman. I haven't seen much of Vorobiev, but I don't see why he would be named over Weber. To me, it's an all Canadian defence pair. Then it's Bergeron, Ovechkin and someone else up front, I'm leaning towards Carter. In net, hard to say. I just don't see Schwarz having done enough for a possible 3rd place team to be named. I think it'll be Glass.

I have to say I'm pretty surprised. There is not a single mention of Shea Weber as an all-star dman. I haven't seen much of Vorobiev, but I don't see why he would be named over Weber. To me, it's an all Canadian defence pair. Then it's Bergeron, Ovechkin and someone else up front, I'm leaning towards Carter. In net, hard to say. I just don't see Schwarz having done enough for a possible 3rd place team to be named. I think it'll be Glass.

wow 5 Canadians in the starting lineup :eek:

I say
Bergeron
Ovechkin
Carter
Vorobiev
Phanuef
Schwarz

I'm with basically everyone else:

F Ovechkin
F Bergeron
F Olesz
D Phaneuf
D Vorobiev
G Schwarz

But as some have mentioned, Olesz, if the Czechs finish 4th will probably not be on the squad. Jeff Carter would be a likely replacement. I was hoping Crosby would get a spot on the All-Star team this year, but since he's behind like 4 other players for total scoring I don't think it's likely. You never know though, there's still the finals, and if he can come up big maybe he can get the nod.

*Out of Fanboy mode*

Goaltending to me is a tough choice.
I think we'll see what Glass and Canadas d are made of tomorrow against the Russians.
That is going to be one helluva game! :thumbu:

To me the defense pairing has to be Weber and Phaneuf but i've only seen one Russian game.

F: Alexander Ovechkin
F: Evgeny Malkin
F: Patrice Bergeron
D: Dion Phaneuf
D: Dimitri Vorobiev
G: Marek Schwartz



I like this list, so tough to pick a goaltender though.

Bergeron
Ovechkin
Olesz

Defense could be any of:
Weber
Meszaros
Phaneuf
Vorobiev
Maybe Smid

Goalie
Schwarz

Ovechkin-Malkin-Bergeron
Phaneuf-Suter
Schwarz

I think some of the positions are still open.

I would say that Patrice Bergeron, Dion Phaneuf, and Alex Ovechkin have clinched their spots.

What happens in the final will determine if Jeff Carter, Evgeni Malkin, or Rusty Olesz gets the third forward spot.

The goaltender will likely be the winner of the tournament unless its a goal-fest, and then it should go to Marek Schwarz.

The second defender is a tough call, I really don't know.
are you going on total points or old hype? because malkin has out played ao 3 out of 5 games.

I've only seen 2 Russian games so far, along with stats, but someone has to explain to me why Vorobiev is getting so much mention as an all-star dman. granted i've seen weber play every game, but i don't see how he can be left off the team in place of vorobiev.

I've only seen 2 Russian games so far, along with stats, but someone has to explain to me why Vorobiev is getting so much mention as an all-star dman. granted i've seen weber play every game, but i don't see how he can be left off the team in place of vorobiev.
Oh, didnt you see his last game where he got 4 assists. That was about the most dominating performance the WJC has ever seen (and in a 7-2 game no less).
And oh, I almost forgot.
He was drafted by Toronto.

I have to say I'm pretty surprised. There is not a single mention of Shea Weber as an all-star dman.

Exactly what I was thinking. I really think it should be an all-canadian defense. Look at the number of shots against Canada. Glass can say thanks to his defensemen.

Both Phaneuf and Weber logged almost 30 minutes every game. They were used in all situations. They both deserve to be names on the all-star team.

Oh, didnt you see his last game where he got 4 assists. That was about the most dominating performance the WJC has ever seen (and in a 7-2 game no less).
And oh, I almost forgot.
He was drafted by Toronto.
There are 12 non-Leaf fans that picked him to the all-star team in this thread.

F Patrice Bergeron
F Alexander Ovechkin
F Jeff Carter
D Dion Phaneuf
D Andrej Meszaros
G Marek Schwarz

I wouldn't complain if Weber or Vorobiev joined Phaneuf as the top two defensemen in this tourney, but Ryan Suter wouldn't be out of place either. He's the top scoring D-man in this event, and is only one of two or three D-men on the U.S. squad that appeared to have a clue in their own end. PLEASE DON'T HOLD THE PLAY OF JEFF LIKENS AGAINST HIM!!!

I wouldn't complain if Weber or Vorobiev joined Phaneuf as the top two defensemen in this tourney, but Ryan Suter wouldn't be out of place either. He's the top scoring D-man in this event, and is only one of two or three D-men on the U.S. squad that appeared to have a clue in their own end. PLEASE DON'T HOLD THE PLAY OF JEFF LIKENS AGAINST HIM!!!
Likens blows.

For a little while prior to the tournament I was curious why nobody signed or drafted him.

Now I know.

There are 12 non-Leaf fans that picked him to the all-star team in this thread.
we all saw the one game!!!

I root for Russia yet i would NEVER put Vorobiev on this list. He has been solid, yet he is not noticeable in some games. His numbers are VERY deceiving because this is a short tournament. Also, he plays behind the Ovechkin line usually and so it doesnt take much for him to get assists or even a good plus/minus. But in terms of his actual PLAY, he hasnt done anything special.
Phaneuf is a given and then it gets a bit tough to judge. I do feel that Suter has stood out for USA. He has been GREAT on the PP and his assists are noticeable...he trully influences goals and often gets the key assist. He has been very solid on defense, much better than his -2 would show.

My all-star team:

F: OVECHKIN, CROSBY, MALKIN
D: PHANEUF, SUTER
G: KHUDOBIN

Yes, i'm going with Khudobin. He is not the most talented goalie of this tournament, but if not for his play, team Russia would not be in these Finals! He has had to deal with having a rather poor defense in front of him, and he has had to make some really spectacular saves at times.
I'm going with Malkin over guys like Carter and Bergeron not cause of production. The production of the 3 is similar. What makes a difference in my book is that Malkin has had to help out his defense MUCH more than either Carter or Bergeron. Dont get me wrong, Carter and Bergeron are good defensively, they just didnt have to become a 3rd defenseman so much since Canada's D is much more solid than Russia's.

tONIGHTS GAME COULD DECIDE ALL-STARS.

I'm going with Malkin over guys like Carter and Bergeron not cause of production. The production of the 3 is similar. What makes a difference in my book is that Malkin has had to help out his defense MUCH more than either Carter or Bergeron. Dont get me wrong, Carter and Bergeron are good defensively, they just didnt have to become a 3rd defenseman so much since Canada's D is much more solid than Russia's.
So you pick Malkin as the center because Russias defensemen are weak?

So you pick Malkin as the center because Russias d is weak?

No, thats not what i'm saying at all. We are picking an ALL-STAR team for THIS tournament...and in THIS tournament Malkin has done the most for his team on defense...out of crosby, bergeron, malkin. Malkin has been a KEY for Russia offensively and defensively...and thats why i'm picking him.

This is really hard to pick. You could argue for an all-Canadian all-star team and not be wrong in doing so, but obviously that wouldn't be the case.

Olesz, Ovechkin, Malkin, Shirokov, Bergeron, Carter, Crosby, Salmonsson

Suter, Vorobiev, Phaneuf, Weber

Schwarz, Halak - what a weak field this year

My team:

Olesz, Bergeron, Ovechkin

Phaneuf, Vorobiev

Halak (statistically Schwarz has a better SV% but Slovakia has a weaker team and he did manage 2 shutouts over the tournament)