Edler Statesman*
01-02-2005, 07:57 PM
Lynch Mob? Anyone?
This guy is the worst color commentator of all time.
This guy is the worst color commentator of all time.
Pierre McguireEdler Statesman* 01-02-2005, 07:57 PM Lynch Mob? Anyone? This guy is the worst color commentator of all time. Dion Mustard* 01-02-2005, 07:59 PM No, that would be Greg Millen. TML 01-02-2005, 08:00 PM Be happy... he only used the term "monster" once today... leafaholix* 01-02-2005, 08:01 PM Get over it, eh. The guy's doing a good job. Now, John Garrett, Peter Loubardias, and Greg Millen suck. Puckhead 01-02-2005, 08:02 PM Greg Millen and John Garrett are horrible!!! Edler Statesman* 01-02-2005, 08:03 PM not sure if I have the exact words.. "Man, Finland only has 1.5 million people and they can make so many good goalies, Sweden has like SIX million.... you think they could make some good goalies? Hahaha!" -Pierre Mcguire Tricolore#20 01-02-2005, 08:05 PM This is like the 6th Pierre McGuire thread during this tournament. His popularity is undeniable. Puckhead 01-02-2005, 08:08 PM While Pierre may go on ad nauseum about some things, he really knows his stuff and I enjoy listening to what he says and most of the time the way he says it. "Monster" may be a bit much, but all these colour guys and commentators are looking for a handle, and that's his. It works for him, and if you compare him to most of the other guys in the business, you will see he is near the top, at doing his job, and he has a huge following all across Canada. ehc73 01-02-2005, 08:09 PM not sure if I have the exact words.. "Man, Finland only has 1.5 million people and they can make so many good goalies, Sweden has like SIX million.... you think they could make some good goalies? Hahaha!" -Pierre Mcguire Finland's not THAT small. :) I think it was more along the lines of 6 million for Finland and 7.5 million for Sweden. His argument still doesn't make sense though. Just because you have more people doesn't mean you'll have better prospects. leafaholix* 01-02-2005, 08:10 PM not sure if I have the exact words.. "Man, Finland only has 1.5 million people and they can make so many good goalies, Sweden has like SIX million.... you think they could make some good goalies? Hahaha!" -Pierre Mcguire He said Finland has ******** number of people, and Sweden has ******** number of people, yet Finland produces some of the best young goalies in the world... then Gord Miller said something like, the only option is to invade Finland, or something along those lines. It was funny. Edler Statesman* 01-02-2005, 08:11 PM Finland's not THAT small. :) I think it was more along the lines of 6 million for Finland and 7.5 million for Sweden. His argument still doesn't make sense though. Just because you have more people doesn't mean you'll have better prospects. that was why I brought it up... he's bordering on retardation with half the things he says. Jacob 01-02-2005, 08:12 PM McGuire is a big body presence. leafaholix* 01-02-2005, 08:12 PM Finland's not THAT small. :) I think it was more along the lines of 6 million for Finland and 7.5 million for Sweden. His argument still doesn't make sense though. Just because you have more people doesn't mean you'll have better prospects. That wasn't the point... the point was that Finland and Sweden are similar, Sweden even has a larger population, but the Fins produce elite goaltenders where as the Swedes produce no elite goaltenders over the years. It's 100%... see Tommy Salo and Johan Hedberg as the top 2 Swedish goalies in the last decade+. Jacques Plante 01-02-2005, 08:15 PM Pierre's understanding of the game within the game is excellent. He points out things that no other colour commentators do. I learn something from Pierre every game. I have a couple of minor problems with him, however. I find his goaltending analysis to be weak. He doesn't really understand goaltending. Also, I find that he can come off as a bit of a suck up sometimes, but he does counter that with the odd lambasting. Overall a solid colour man. I don't mind his intense delivery. There's only one person in today's business that I would take over Mcguire: Kelly Hrudey. Pierre owns Millen and Healey. leafaholix* 01-02-2005, 08:16 PM Glen Healy sucks. So much bias. Edler Von Gud 01-02-2005, 08:17 PM I might be in the minority here, but I enjoy McGuire's work. Sure he may say some dumb things, or be a little over the top, but atleast he keeps people interested. He's entertaining, a lot more than can be said for most colour guys. He's got his own style, he says controversial things, but I respect him for doing that. BAuldie 01-02-2005, 08:18 PM Pierre Mcguire is excellent.. I don't see why so many people hate him.. so he is loud and gets worked up about things.. his knowledge of the game is top notch in colour commentary land. FearTheFlyers 01-02-2005, 08:30 PM I'm with kmad, McGuire is a bigoted moron. leafaholix* 01-02-2005, 08:30 PM I'm with kmad, McGuire is a bigoted moron. ... why? #66 01-02-2005, 08:31 PM Oh please. If he was old and wore funny ties he'ld be the king of Canada. Lard_Lad 01-02-2005, 08:42 PM His enthusiasm is a good fit for the WJC - it's a short, intense tournament. But if I had to listen to him call 40 or 50 regular-season NHL games a year, it'd get old in a hurry. Knucklez 01-02-2005, 09:02 PM I personally think McGuire is doing a fairly good job so far in the tournament. Sure, he's a blatant Canada homer, but what do you expect. I also think he secretly wants to marry Jeff Carter, he's obsessed with him, he talks about him during almost every break. leafaholix* 01-02-2005, 09:05 PM I personally think McGuire is doing a fairly good job so far in the tournament. Sure, he's a blatant Canada homer, but what do you expect. I also think he secretly wants to marry Jeff Carter, he's obsessed with him, he talks about him during almost every break.Canadian homer? I'm not even sure he's Canadian. :dunno: The guy has personal favourite players on every team. Disco Volante 01-02-2005, 09:29 PM Oh please. If he was old and wore funny ties he'ld be the king of Canada. :lol :lol: As for me... I really dislike McGuire. BUT... whenever I see a game without him, I find myself missing him... Right now, the USA-Russia game on RDS, man do they suck. I'd take a few red line comments, a few "monsters" and other retarded exclamations (he got "dionned" or whatever) to skip those morons that can't put out a coherent line. In fact, compared to french analysts, even the "best" ones, McGuire is pure gold. That's kind of sad. Eddie Vedder 01-02-2005, 09:31 PM what he says is awesome, but the way he says it is terrible SwisshockeyAcademy 01-02-2005, 10:01 PM I'm with kmad, McGuire is a bigoted moron. I am curious. Bigot?Which color men do you like? Ocelot 01-02-2005, 10:03 PM Lynch Mob? Anyone? This guy is the worst color commentator of all time. I like him. He always has something interesting to say and he knows what he's talking about. Evil Homer 01-02-2005, 10:09 PM McGuire is a big body presence. He's a monster. Taft 01-02-2005, 10:18 PM I was in Grand Forks for the Canada/Finland game last week and the most entertaining thing about the game was watching McGuire do his monster performer spiel after the game. The guy is intense, smart and funny - IF you don't take him too seriously. Fedz 01-02-2005, 10:27 PM I might be in the minority here, but I enjoy McGuire's work. Sure he may say some dumb things, or be a little over the top, but atleast he keeps people interested. He's entertaining, a lot more than can be said for most colour guys. He's got his own style, he says controversial things, but I respect him for doing that. Agreed, on every part of your post. nucks2win 01-02-2005, 10:50 PM I don't mind McGuire - he's go over the top once in a while, but way better than most others, especially when compared to Harry Neale or Greg Millen. I also think he secretly wants to marry Jeff Carter, he's obsessed with him, he talks about him during almost every break. I thought it was Phaneuf. Same dif, I guess. MacDaddy TLC* 01-02-2005, 10:51 PM Pierre McGuire and his excitement and knowledge for the game is a refreshing change from the stooges that played the game, or the whiney nasalloids. Steadfast 01-02-2005, 10:51 PM kmad better watch out. Bob McKenzie and Gord Miller already post here. Pierre McGuire is next! He's going to pull a WHAMMO on you. Habsfunk 01-02-2005, 11:37 PM I can't stand Pierre McGuire. I can't deny his incredibly knowledge of the game but I hate the way he has to shout about everything. He tends to over-analyze and also lacks a sense of humour. It just seems that everytime Gord Miller stops to breathe Pierre McGuire is there to yell out some rather minute detail that is fairly insignificant. I just get the feeling that he can't enjoy a good game of hockey because he's too busy auditioning for a coaching job. #66 01-02-2005, 11:47 PM Just for the sake of trying it. Listen to PM every week day morning on The Team 1200. When he can just talk hockey without putting on a show he's downright awsome. SwisshockeyAcademy 01-03-2005, 12:46 AM Try Steve Konroyd,( since fired) Glenn Healy( fired), John Garrett, Brian Hayward and worse yet, Jim Fox, worse still Greg Millen and there are more yes Denis Potvin who may be intelligent but i cannot get past the horrible voive and delivery. McGuire is one of my favorites even if i do not always agree. BobMckenzie 01-03-2005, 03:47 AM This guy is the worst color commentator of all time. I'm not the most objective voice on this, but Pierre, along with J.D., are the best colour commentators going right now, which is why when the lockout ends Pierre will be coming to an NBC telecast near you. Pierre's a monster!! :bow: Epsilon 01-03-2005, 03:59 AM Someone should point out the goal totals for Ovechkin and Crosby to McGuire, given that he went completely off-topic a few days ago to mention them and get in a cheap shot at Ovechkin. mcphee 01-03-2005, 10:22 AM I'm with kmad, McGuire is a bigoted moron. When you make a comment like that without foundation then decide not to back it up, it puts your own character , or lack of same, into question. Then again, you could have been joking. Sting 01-03-2005, 10:24 AM Glen Healy sucks. So much bias. Agreed. If there is one commentator I can't stand (even more than Greg Millen), it's Glen Healy. I actually don't mind Mcguire at all. I think he does his job well...and they're funny from time to time. :) markov` 01-03-2005, 10:32 AM Guys... What's wrong with that? :lol: hossy316 01-03-2005, 10:53 AM I'm not the most objective voice on this, but Pierre, along with J.D., are the best colour commentators going right now, which is why when the lockout ends Pierre will be coming to an NBC telecast near you. Pierre's a monster!! :bow: Really. So, he is leaving TSN?? That kinda sucks since I love TSN and also like to listen to both Miller and McGuire. They are 2 of the best going right now. McGuire does know his stuff too. About 5 minutes before Dawes' goal last night, he called it. He said he was due and he will get on the scoresheet tonight and then WHAMMO, sure enough, Dawes pots one. ZombieMatt 01-03-2005, 10:57 AM I really enjoy what Pierre and Gord do on the TSN telecasts. I think they're an excellent team who are perfectly suited for one another, but that's just me. MacDaddy TLC* 01-03-2005, 10:58 AM I doubt he is outright leaving TSN, especially for how little NBC regards hockey. It'll probably be more like what John Davidson does: he works for many networks as a freelancer. If he went to NBC exclusively, he just might as well become the invisible man. mcphee 01-03-2005, 11:00 AM Just for the sake of trying it. Listen to PM every week day morning on The Team 1200. When he can just talk hockey without putting on a show he's downright awsome. He does the same on Mtl.'s Team990 at about 5.30/ daily on Mitch Melnick's show and is about the best source for hockey news we have in the English media in Mtl. He comes across as a class guy who doesn't forget the people that have helped him in the media and the hockey business. He can argue without getting nasty which is a nice trait these days. John Flyers Fan 01-03-2005, 11:04 AM McGuire is a big body presence. :lol: :lol: :lol: John Flyers Fan 01-03-2005, 11:08 AM While Pierre goes over the top at times, I enjoy listening to him, and consider him to be among the best color men in the league. Without the NHL Center Ice package this year, I think some forget about some of the just brutal play-by-play/color man combos in the NHL. Camshaft77 01-03-2005, 12:40 PM Does anyone else miss SAP? that being said I enjoy Pierre, because he brings energy and alot of knowledge. He is the best colour man around. Too bad him and Paul Romanuk never got a chance to do a game together. JustynFoo 01-03-2005, 01:05 PM I personally like McGuire, but he'll never ever be as good as Pat Foley :yo: His rant on Alexander Karpotsev is still the greatest thing I've ever heard :bow: Slick Nick 01-03-2005, 01:20 PM It's the same every time... first games in a tournament he treats the opponent team decently, then as the tournay goes on, he's less and less friendly to the other teams, and when there's a canadian team in the final it's all red and white and the others are silly, they duck, they fake,look at them controling the puck that's not hockey, and whaaaaaaaaaat this guy lost his helmet, that should have been a penalty, Gord that should have been a PENALTYYYYYYY according the international rules!!!! Pffff ah come on now, the canadian goalie shoveld the puck into the croud... oh come on, this can't be a penalty.. geez I know you people at home hate the officiating as much as we do, dont they Gord.. :lol But overall he's a good announcer, he's knows his hockey, he's entertaining and tries to be impartial. monster_bertuzzi 01-03-2005, 05:08 PM I disagree with the notion that Pierre is a bad colour guy. For starters, its HILARIOUS when he starts to talk really fast to finish a sentence. He also calls a spade a spade, something most colour guys just dont do. PanthersRule96 01-03-2005, 05:17 PM Dunno if it's been posted yet, but I heard he said Olesz was a poor 2 way player as he was bad defensively and was soft. To say Olesz is a poor 2 way player is like saying Ovechkin will never make the NHL. PEli* 01-03-2005, 05:23 PM Anybody who thinks PG is a poor commentator is incorrect. If you consider that to be my opinion, you are wrong. PG brings excitement and fun to a game. He's interesting and if you don't take him too seriously, you'll see that he's one of the least objective guys on TV. Think of how annoyed we'd be if Bob Cole and Harry Neale were calling these games. It'd be sixty minutes of talking about how unfair it is that Mats Sundin didn't make the junior team. Bob: This is ********. Where is Domi? Team Canada needs a gritty guy like that. Harry: I don't think Canada misses Domi as much as they miss the Salmon guy from BC. Bob: Good point. Ferguson should have put this team together. Hockey Canada be damned. tuckerdomi 01-03-2005, 05:25 PM Pierre nows his stuff, leave the guy alone, he keeps the audience listening and thats what his job his. Papa Smurf 01-03-2005, 05:28 PM Sean Burke was terrible during the world cup. Genghis86 01-03-2005, 06:11 PM What are the two guys that always comment on Leafs games on CBC Hockey Night in Canada? I remember one of them once slipped a funny remark - he was talking about some player hitting on another; they usually use the term 'harassing' - "Player X is being harassed by Player Y". But this time he decided to change the wording because it was getting to repetitive and said - "Player X is being molested by Player Y"! Rocky Saginuts 01-03-2005, 08:37 PM Wow, am I ever on the wrong page here. Maguire is the best hockey analyst around. He conveys more hockey knowledge than any other hockey talking-head out there (John Davidson is the only one who comes close). Maguire's enthusiasm is over the top sometimes, but why do we slag somebody who gets genuinely excited with his topic. We Canadians are so low-key, we get embarrassed when we see someone who actually HAS A PERSONALITY! :dunno: He loves this sport, and you can certainly tell. Get over it....or....if you don't dig him, you can pick up a radio call at fan590.com. After you lapse into a coma, put the TSN back on boys... :teach: espo 01-03-2005, 08:51 PM I've said it before and i'll say it again......love Mcguire.I know he can be a little over the top but he's entertaining and knows the game....he gets you jacked up and makes you laugh even when he's not intending to. jet228 01-04-2005, 01:00 AM kmad better watch out. Bob McKenzie and Gord Miller already post here. Pierre McGuire is next! He's going to pull a WHAMMO on you. He's going to lay down the EL-KABONG on you and then you'll be Tostitos! Seriously, the guy knows what he's talking about and at least he tries to inject a little personality into his delivery! A very hard job to broadcast a hockey game and Pierre and Gordo get top marks from me! :bow: HemskyFreak83 01-04-2005, 01:39 AM i just hate it when he can't stop talking about certain players and can't stop talking about them (Phanuef, Carter and Parise even though he wasn't there) Randy Marsh 01-04-2005, 02:06 AM I find Pierre generally entertaining... He has a good idea of what he's talking about, and he has a lot of personality. My only knock on him is how he simply can't shut up about Synergy sticks breaking, and allowing 2 line passes in the NHL. Hart_House_Ca 01-04-2005, 02:41 AM Pierre is annoying. Everytime he says a Dion it sounds to gay. A Phan-oufff!!! would be much better. Pierre and Gord Miller need to be replace because they repeat the same stuff over and over again. They like to say.. in case you didn't know.. there is no red line... In case you didn't know.. there is no touch icing... Pierre and his monster comments have become so annoying.. I have to mute pierre everytime he talks... Hemsky_Gretzky 01-04-2005, 02:43 AM Pierre's problem is that he doesn't realize not to interrupt the play-by-play to comment on something he's commented on several times before. He uses every space he finds to talk, and it really does get annoying. I admit he knows his stuff, but theres also quite a few times where he'll give the players way more credit for doing something, such as a move because they saw someone was leaning a little to the left. Maybe they just made that move and it worked out that way pierre. i wonder how he feels about the red line. and one pieces. SENSible1* 01-04-2005, 07:21 AM Pierre's biggest sin in the eyes of most his haters is that he doesn't fawn over the Leafs and has called them out when they have made questionable moves. He is bright, funny and extremely knowledgable. Sure he could tone down the theatrics, but the very fact that this is the 3rd or 4th thread about him this tournament proves his schtick is working like a charm. leafaholix* 01-04-2005, 07:30 AM Pierre's biggest sin in the eyes of most his haters is that he doesn't fawn over the Leafs and has called them out when they have made questionable moves. He is bright, funny and extremely knowledgable. Sure he could tone down the theatrics, but the very fact that this is the 3rd or 4th thread about him this tournament proves his schtick is working like a charm.Glen Healy fawns over the Leafs... and he sucks majorly. So it's not Leaf fans, I can assure you of that. leafaholix* 01-04-2005, 07:33 AM Pierre and Gord Miller need to be replace because they repeat the same stuff over and over again. They like to say.. in case you didn't know.. there is no red line... In case you didn't know.. there is no touch icing... Pierre and his monster comments have become so annoying.. I have to mute pierre everytime he talks...So you expect them to come up with new information every broadcast? You do realize that there are people that tune in that don't know all the changes and differences between the NHL and the WJC... right? LadyByngJeanRatelle 01-04-2005, 09:38 AM I like Pierre, and I'm going to down a couple 'adult beverages' right now to prove it. pensfan04 01-04-2005, 01:11 PM I find Pierre generally entertaining... He has a good idea of what he's talking about, and he has a lot of personality. My only knock on him is how he simply can't shut up about Synergy sticks breaking, and allowing 2 line passes in the NHL. truth... a little repetitive but sure about what he says. Big Deaner 01-04-2005, 01:34 PM Anybody who thinks PG is a poor commentator is incorrect. If you consider that to be my opinion, you are wrong. PG brings excitement and fun to a game. He's interesting and if you don't take him too seriously, you'll see that he's one of the least objective guys on TV. Think of how annoyed we'd be if Bob Cole and Harry Neale were calling these games. It'd be sixty minutes of talking about how unfair it is that Mats Sundin didn't make the junior team. Bob: This is ********. Where is Domi? Team Canada needs a gritty guy like that. Harry: I don't think Canada misses Domi as much as they miss the Salmon guy from BC. Bob: Good point. Ferguson should have put this team together. Hockey Canada be damned. :lol CBC, although having one of the best hockey programs around does have some of the worst and most annoying commentators alive Cole, Neal, Millen and worst of all that little rat Glenn Healy, I'm absolutely positive he wanted Calgary to lose last year in every series in which he was the color guy. Big Deaner 01-04-2005, 01:44 PM I don't like Macguire. He sounds like a giddy school girl trapped in an old mans body. Also, he makes stupid comments. Just one example of this was in the third period of the Semi-Final game against the Czechs, we were already up 3-1, and Pierre states that Brent Sutter shouldnt lose his composure in this situation. What? We are up by two goals with less than ten minutes to play and Macguire is worried that a memorial cup winning coach who also played in the NHL and won numerous international tournaments as a player would actually lose his composure. I can just see it: Team Canada Players: So what line is out next coach Sutter? Sutter: Idono, Idono. Two goal lead what are we gonna do? There is only one thing left to do now, panic and get out of playing our game. I just can't think of anything else to do, we have to lose our composure. junglebeast 01-04-2005, 05:23 PM I don't see how anyone can think Pierre deserves to be a commentator. He is beyond terrible in my honest opinion. If he would just stick to commentating he would be alright but his analysis of the game is brutal. More often than not his points are a) stupid b) repeats c) irrelevant. It makes me sick listening to him go on and on about thoughts he thinks are good analysis of the game and players when in reality they are plain terrible. As I said, Pierre would be fine if he just called the game but as much as people think he knows about hockey he sure is bad at expressing that knowledge. He also says some of the dumbest things I've ever heard. I remember a few games back for Canada, against Finland I think, he noticed Crosby was off the ice during a PP. Now Corsby had played EVERY PP in the tournament up until that point and Pierre decides to create his own story as to why Crosby is off the ice. He says Crosby was slacking in his own end and sitting him was a message being sent to the Canadian team. Now, I saw Crosby playing hard as always and Pierre offered no replay to support his retarded idea. What a joke! He misses one PP and Pierre gets a text message from Sutter? I seriously doubt it. Sure that's him trying to look smart, which he works at way too much, but it's a perfect example of his annoying ranting. He creates stories, reasons and analysis for plays that doesn't fit, makes no sense or he has no basis for saying. DION is also beyond stupid. You've got to be kidding me. One time he even said "People around here are starting to call that a DION" - no Pierre, no one is that retarded. His emotion when calling the game can be annoying but I don't mind that. Like I said, if he just called the game with small analysis and put his emotion into calling the game instead of trying to tell a story every two seconds he'd be a great commentator. Please Pierre, shut up and call the game or get the hell off the air. Isles72 01-04-2005, 06:21 PM only thing that annoys me about Pierre is the whole Islanders /Parise/Nilsson thing . isles werent the only team to pass on Zach , so its kind of annoying to be a Canadian isles fan and hear that from Pierre on a regular basis . :dunno: wilka91* 01-04-2005, 06:28 PM Guys you should hear some Russian or Czech or even FRENCH commentators! At some point you have to turn off the sound completely, otherwise it's impossible to watch or you'd throw the TV out of the window! :banghead: :lol: Hart_House_Ca 01-04-2005, 06:30 PM So you expect them to come up with new information every broadcast? You do realize that there are people that tune in that don't know all the changes and differences between the NHL and the WJC... right? You do realize that people who watch the game dont' like to hear the same thing repeated 10 times? Maybe they should have a ticker that repeats these info.. instead of having the commentators.. say it 100 times... to viewers that are here on time... Actually, I expect all Canadians to know these rule changes or to gradually pick them up as the game is in play. I'd like to think Canadians are very intelligent people as these rule changes are nothing new. Why ruin the games for millions of Canadians just to accommodate a few people? pspot 01-05-2005, 11:26 AM This is my first post, and im really happ about it because ive wanted to say this for so long I hate Pierre McGuire so much, and i can hardly watch any game that he commentates, I had to put the game on mute several time last night just to get through it. He wont shut up, having to always have some comment on every player that touches the puck, with some piece of information that know one could possibly know and know one cares about, honestly how does he know some of that ****. He thinks he knows everything basically because he has a good memory He only says the popular thing to say at that time, i.e. in love with M A Fleury last year, and then actually putting him down this year. I hate the way he is so black and white about everything, this is the way it is, or this is what that guy was doing, or my favorite this is what he was thinking when he did this, shut the **** up you don’t know what other people are thinking The way he makes those tough guy comments, when im not even sure he has ever played a game in his life, “they better not try that stuff they did with the states with Canada because someone will lose their teeth” who the **** are you to make threats to people for someone else. and i guarantee he was one of the people crucifying Bertuzzi for what he did, while saying as if he is proud of it, that in hockey you cant do things because people will remember your number and get you back. Is there anyway we can start a petition to get this guy out because i just cant take watching anymore games with this guy commentating, maybe they can work it into the CBA. Ever since ESPN bought TSN, it has become so frigin American and i dont think that is anymore obvious than Pierre McGuire as their hockey "expert" The only reason he is around is because he was an assistant to Bowman, and I think the only reason Scotty did that was because it was before teams started to utilize computers, and McGuire was basically Scottys Bouchard 01-05-2005, 11:42 AM Although I don't mind Pierre Maguire..I'm glad Gord Miller does most of the talking. Boucicaut 01-05-2005, 12:18 PM I muted the announcers. Much better that way. Pierre is a horrible homer who also keeps repeating the same stuff over and over. | ||