Tonight's Canada Exhibition Game

Speed Demon
12-20-2004, 08:47 AM
Will this game be televised? Thanks.

flamesfan01800
12-20-2004, 08:53 AM
TSN is carrying it 7:30 for us viewers in Saskatchewan

Jason MacIsaac
12-20-2004, 08:58 AM
TSN is carrying it 7:30 for us viewers in Saskatchewan
Its for everyone in the country...should be interesting to see Rask in nets.

flamesfan01800
12-20-2004, 09:00 AM
Its for everyone in the country...should be interesting to see Rask in nets.

Ya thats wut i meant. Just work your way east or west to figure out what time it starts in your region

Jason MacIsaac
12-20-2004, 09:06 AM
Ya thats wut i meant. Just work your way east or west to figure out what time it starts in your region
OK....misunderstood what you were waying. It starts at 9:30 here.

Brock
12-20-2004, 11:41 AM
Should be an awesome game, Canada/Finland always is. Lots of intensity, physical and it will be an excellent test for Canada to warm up it's game.

But even better, WE GET SOME HOCKEY!!

I'm going to miss the first period however, hopefully no less because I'll be driving home from University for the holidays.

Speed Demon
12-20-2004, 11:56 AM
Man I Am So Excited Woohooo Hockey Hockey Hockey Gogogo Team Canada Googotow Wooohooooo

TML
12-20-2004, 12:07 PM
3-1 Canada

Stewart, Richards, Bergeron

Tukonen

theCRAZYman
12-20-2004, 01:04 PM
Go Canada Go!

ktownhockey
12-20-2004, 01:28 PM
Im sooooo excited.. should be a good tune up game.. like to see the line combinations and how they change (if they do) during the game...

trahans99
12-20-2004, 01:44 PM
FINALLY .................................................. HOCKEY HAS COME BACK to all us crazy Canadian hockey fans ..... :handclap: :yo:

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 01:45 PM
Any bets on whether Seabrook will be in the lineup? I'm really hoping so, as I selected him in my draft :(

espo
12-20-2004, 01:48 PM
I sure hope so.I read a comment from him the other day saying he's ready to go right now...not sure if that's just him trying to let the coaching staff play through injury or if he's really close to 100%,i hope he is.

Senator Stanley
12-20-2004, 02:37 PM
Who is starting for Canada?

Faaxinho
12-20-2004, 02:44 PM
Any chance to hear it from somewhere?

Nik
12-20-2004, 02:53 PM
Whooooooooo!!!! Hockey!!!

Madevilz
12-20-2004, 03:23 PM
Whooooooooo!!!! Hockey!!!
.

Habsfan 32
12-20-2004, 03:27 PM
Hockey!!!!!!!!!!! :handclap: :yo:

hossy316
12-20-2004, 03:35 PM
Nice posts there fellas. :shakehead

This will be a good tune up for the Canadians as the Finnish team is underrated IMO. This team could surprise in the tournament and should not be taken lightly. With that being said, this is of course only an exibition game so I am not as pumped yet as I will be in 5 days when the games start to mean something.

dem
12-20-2004, 03:58 PM
I'm kinda hoping Canada loses just to watch the board panic. :p:

Douggy
12-20-2004, 04:00 PM
I'm kinda hoping Canada loses just to watch the board panic. :p:
That would be moderately entertaining.

Rabid Ranger
12-20-2004, 04:11 PM
That would be moderately entertaining.


Or hilarious depending on where you're from.......... ;)

Speed Demon
12-20-2004, 04:13 PM
If they lost I would be filled with repulse.

x Goodwill x
12-20-2004, 04:40 PM
4-1 Canada!!!

Jeff Carter with 2 goals and 2 assists!! :D

x Goodwill x
12-20-2004, 04:40 PM
Anybody know the line combination for tonight's game? :dunno:

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 04:45 PM
I'm kinda hoping Canada loses just to watch the board panic. :p:

If Canada loses, it's not the end of the world. It's Finland after all, not UND. ;)

Vinland
12-20-2004, 04:55 PM
4-2 Canada
Phaneuf, Carter, Bergeron and Crosby
Tukonen and Nokelainen
Rask plays great in losing effort

pei fan
12-20-2004, 05:11 PM
My prediction 3-0 Canada after 2 ,then Sutter realizes he doesn't know what to do
with Perry so he puts him in Goal.Finland wins 20-3. :D

Histrion
12-20-2004, 05:16 PM
I suggest that we all go on HF's chat around 8:00 tonight, it'll be nice, wouldn't it? ;)

Big Deaner
12-20-2004, 05:50 PM
My prediction 3-0 Canada after 2 ,then Sutter realizes he doesn't know what to do
with Perry so he puts him in Goal.Finland wins 20-3. :D
:lol:

Crosbyfan
12-20-2004, 06:02 PM
My prediction 3-0 Canada after 2 ,then Sutter realizes he doesn't know what to do
with Perry so he puts him in Goal.Finland wins 20-3. :D

Perry then curses Tremblay...oops make that Sutter... for humiliating him and announces that's the last time he will ever play net for Canada. :D

Le Golie
12-20-2004, 06:15 PM
Two hours to faceoff, the crowd is going to be wild. It's not gonna resemble an exhibition game I'll tell you that much. 15,000 screaming fans in the sold out brand new barn, it's going to be nuts!

paxtang
12-20-2004, 06:15 PM
So, any radio webcasts for this?

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 06:25 PM
Perry then curses Tremblay...oops make that Sutter... for humiliating him and announces that's the last time he will ever play net for Canada. :D

ahh, good stuff :)

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 06:40 PM
Doesn't look like Seabrook is dressing tonight
http://juniorex.leaguestat.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=15

that could be wrong though

Papa Smurf
12-20-2004, 06:43 PM
Finally, a game worth watching at the MTS Center.

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 06:54 PM
Finally, a game worth watching at the MTS Center.

I thought Friday night's moose-bulldogs game was great. Good pace, lots of chances at both ends and Corey Locke had a fantastic night. Alex Auld looked frazzled though.

LeafsGirl
12-20-2004, 07:01 PM
and i read on the site ( www.hockeycanada.ca) the guys will be wearing the vintage team canada jersey's tonite

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 08:33 PM
So McGuire's onscreen for only 12 seconds before he says "bodyslam." Awesome.

Jazz
12-20-2004, 08:33 PM
I'm seeing those mustard (Nashville third-jersey like) jerseys again..... :eek:

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 08:34 PM
It's just for this game I believe

Vincent_TheGreat
12-20-2004, 08:35 PM
And there wearing the nastiest ugliest jersey! I hate that stupid jersey!

SergeiKost99
12-20-2004, 08:36 PM
6-1 for canada

crosby with 2

Rocky Saginuts
12-20-2004, 08:38 PM
So, any radio webcasts for this?

I don't think so mate (sucks I know).

I know most Canadian games will be on the radio and net at www.fan590.com out of Toronto, but the Raptors are on there tonight.

GoM
12-20-2004, 08:42 PM
Good god is it good to watch hockey again

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 08:43 PM
hahaha - first time I've seen that happen! Horn goes off in midplay. good stuff.

Jazz
12-20-2004, 08:43 PM
End of period buzzer just went off about 90 seconds into the game.....they are having clock issues

MePutPuckInNet
12-20-2004, 09:15 PM
can we get an update? not everyone gets to see this game, ya know? how bout some details? please? do i have to beg?

RW8
12-20-2004, 09:17 PM
1-0 Canada after 1

Crosby from Bergeron and Perry

SergeiKost99
12-20-2004, 09:18 PM
crosby scored on the powerplay from bergeron and perry ( i believe it was perry)

SergeiKost99
12-20-2004, 09:20 PM
Canada needs to continue to hit, they were hitting early on but i noticed as the game went on they didnt hit as much

GoM
12-20-2004, 09:44 PM
Fluke, but I'll take it

2-0 :handclap:

Steadfast
12-20-2004, 09:44 PM
2-0 Canada

Mike Richards banked it off the goalie from behind the net

Vic Rattlehead
12-20-2004, 09:45 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Wow, what a fluke goal. :joker:

ranold26
12-20-2004, 09:48 PM
I think Perry should stay on the top line with Bergeron and Crosby. Perry and Crosby are scorers and Bergy is the perfect setup man.
and Maguire just echoed it... doh lol

Edler Statesman*
12-20-2004, 09:52 PM
Crosby rocks my socks

Vic Rattlehead
12-20-2004, 09:54 PM
I missed the third goal. Who scored it?

NWT Habs Fan
12-20-2004, 09:55 PM
I missed the third goal. Who scored it?

Bergeron from Crosby. Highlight reel stuff.

ranold26
12-20-2004, 09:55 PM
I missed the third goal. Who scored it?


Bergeron from Crosby.

Vic Rattlehead
12-20-2004, 09:57 PM
Great job by Canada in the second period so far.

dem
12-20-2004, 09:59 PM
MacArthur scored for Canada
Atleast I think it was MacArthur. Pierre was rambling on about Perry like he scored it.

4-0

Btw... those "grinders" are looking pretty good for Canada tonight.. :handclap:

MePutPuckInNet
12-20-2004, 10:03 PM
what's the word on Seabrook? why doesn't he just be a man and step up and tell them he can't play? it's not like he could stop O'Sullivan last year anyway, even with the hooking and clutching...

so, my vote is.....cut seabrook. give the spot to Quincey, who's been looking good.

MePutPuckInNet
12-20-2004, 10:05 PM
how much time is left in the game? what period is it?

Vinland
12-20-2004, 10:06 PM
And there wearing the nastiest ugliest jersey! I hate that stupid jersey!
there is some history behind them. Not that you would get it.

ktownhockey
12-20-2004, 10:07 PM
1 minute left in the second period...

WOW .... they are dominating... as I thought they would.. Finland is supposed to be a darkhorse... I feel bad for the Finish tender who's played well considering his team had been totally outmatched...

Crosby-- Bergeron -- Colliton is an awesome line

Perry's been playing awesome
everyones been hitting.. i love it..

Keep it up boyz

GO CANADA GO!!!!

Edler Statesman*
12-20-2004, 10:10 PM
there is some history behind them. Not that you would get it.

Trail Smoke Eaters were the first team to ever represent Canada in an international tournament (1931?). Their jerseys were mustard yellow.

Anyways, it might be a little early for analysis, being exhibition and all, but Canada is a little too confident. For the most part, they're not putting effort into defensive play, save for Ryan Getzlaf. Their offense is so overpowering that I don't see this as much of a downfall, but expect a Russian upset if this keeps up.

ktownhockey
12-20-2004, 10:13 PM
Trail Smoke Eaters were the first team to ever represent Canada in an international tournament (1931?). Their jerseys were mustard yellow.

Anyways, it might be a little early for analysis, being exhibition and all, but Canada is a little too confident. For the most part, they're not putting effort into defensive play, save for Ryan Getzlaf. Their offense is so overpowering that I don't see this as much of a downfall, but expect a Russian upset if this keeps up.


Too confident??.. what do you want them to do let finland have the puck so you can play defence? lol... They are playing a perfect game right now... ive maybe seen 3 mistakes... 2 by Phaneuf early on long stretch passes.. other than that... im excited..

keep it going WOOO!

chicpea*
12-20-2004, 10:16 PM
True, but I saw Perry [!] on the nice backcheck intercept a pass in the 1st period. This has been a pretty good display so far. And the score could be significantly higher if not for some amazing saves by the Finnish goalie. Dawes seems snakebitten, but has created a lot of chances. What's with Fraser and the Big Wind-Up, btw? Twice he's done that and twice he's lost the puck. Reminds of a guy on my peewee team. ha. Also, Crosby just looks phenonemal with bergeron (and without for that matter).

SergeiKost99
12-20-2004, 10:18 PM
even tho the score doesnt show it, i am really impressed with finlands goalie he has had to face about 30 shots and he has come up with some really nice saves...Other than the fluke goal he was playing good and then all the goals came after the fluke goal. I really liked how perry was 1v1 with the D and tryed to do a move and u could see finlands goalie read the play perfectly and made the save look easy

Jazz
12-20-2004, 10:27 PM
4:44 left in 2nd period - shots are Canada 30 - Finland 8

MePutPuckInNet
12-20-2004, 10:29 PM
who's in goal for the Finn's?

Lard_Lad
12-20-2004, 10:34 PM
who's in goal for the Finn's?

Hallikainen, the backup. He held up reasonably well for the first period and a half or so, but he's getting shelled pretty bad.

GoM
12-20-2004, 10:42 PM
:joker: hear that?

PierreMaguire@tsn.ca

:joker:

Lard_Lad
12-20-2004, 10:42 PM
Heh, McGuire just gave out his e-mail address ovet the air.

Edit: GoM beat me, but he got the address wrong. ;)

s7ark
12-20-2004, 10:44 PM
Hallikainen, the backup. He held up reasonably well for the first period and a half or so, but he's getting shelled pretty bad.


Yeah even though it is 6-0 now it could easily be 10-0. He really has played very well. I feel bad for the kid.

Edler Statesman*
12-20-2004, 10:45 PM
Refs are calling everything.. gonna have to play disciplined

Might be a little hard with the likes of Phaneuf, Perry, Richards, Ladd, etc

GoM
12-20-2004, 10:46 PM
Heh, McGuire just gave out his e-mail address ovet the air.

Edit: GoM beat me, but he got the address wrong. ;)

ehhh

:)

salostyle
12-20-2004, 10:48 PM
Current/Final Score???

Game Summary...Crosby, Richards, Bergeron, MacArthur then who got the 5th and 6th goals? Are there more to report? Has Finland got on the scoreboard yet or is Glass holding down the goose egg?

dem
12-20-2004, 10:49 PM
Bergeron(from Crosby) and Barker got the 5th and 6th I believe

Edler Statesman*
12-20-2004, 10:50 PM
Bergeron(from Crosby) and Barker got the 5th and 6th I believe

Yap

The whole game is like a mediocre power play for Canada

SergeiKost99
12-20-2004, 10:54 PM
game is over canada wins 6-0...glass with shutout.......crosby finished 1 g 2 a

Papa Smurf
12-20-2004, 10:59 PM
During the tournament, Canada expects nothing less than a gold. But during an exhibition game, Canada expects nothing less than a shutout. :)

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
12-20-2004, 11:03 PM
Corey Perry > Jeremy Colliton


Hopefully Sutter realizes this too.

x Goodwill x
12-20-2004, 11:03 PM
Great game by Team Canada. I was impressed by the whole team, especially Crosby he looks great out there, he battles for loose pucks and does all the little things very well. All 4 of the lines played great, Perry was good, Carter also stood out he is going to be a hell of a player in the future. Great effort and players didn't take shifts off. :handclap: :handclap:

Nik
12-20-2004, 11:15 PM
Weber and Phaneuf own.

West19
12-20-2004, 11:17 PM
Weber and Phaneuf own.

that combination is downright scary

TopGun12
12-20-2004, 11:19 PM
I was looking forward to see Rask and then they play the back-up, oh well he wouldn't have made a difference as the Canadian forwards were too big for the Finns to handle.

TML
12-20-2004, 11:19 PM
Weber and Phaneuf own.
They both remind me of Foote/Blake... deadly combo.

TML
12-20-2004, 11:20 PM
What were the lines tonight? Can someone post them? Thanks in advance.

leafaholix*
12-20-2004, 11:26 PM
The final cut should come down to Syvret and Belle.

Syvret played a good game, but made a couple questionable plays with the puck. On the other hand, Belle was strong physically, but he's as dumb as a door knob with the puck.

Quincey played well.

Nielson81
12-20-2004, 11:27 PM
Great...this game means absolutely nothing!

espo
12-20-2004, 11:33 PM
they are still important though,it gives the teams a chance to build and develop their chemistry and game plan,get the kinks out and correct problems the team is displaying.You can't read a whole lot into them but they are essential for getting ready. They played well tonight,i would have liked to see Glass get more work but he looked o.k when tested the few times he was. Crosby? well......he's going to be a star.I really liked Mcarthur and Dixon out there tonight also.Better keep Perry with Crosby and Colliton for the power play.Maybe even give them some more regular shifts together too...i see some nice stuff developing with them.

x Goodwill x
12-20-2004, 11:34 PM
What were the lines tonight? Can someone post them? Thanks in advance.

Crosby Bergeron Colliton
Ladd Carter Getzlaff
Dawes Richards Stewart
Dixon Frasor MacArthur

Perry

Perry did play on the power play with Bergeron and Crosby. Often played on the line with carter or Frasor's.

Aaron Vickers
12-20-2004, 11:50 PM
Corey Perry > Jeremy Colliton


Hopefully Sutter realizes this too.

True.

I don't think anyone would deny you that claim.

However, I think the line of Crosby-Bergeron-Colliton allows Crosby and Bergeron a much greater luxury of focusing solely on playing on the offensive with the defensive awareness of Colliton.

jcpenny
12-21-2004, 12:25 AM
Corey Perry > Jeremy Colliton


Hopefully Sutter realizes this too.
What about Perry > Ladd. Ladd Didnt impress me and he looked like he should be the 13th foward. Everytime Perry was on the ice,something happened. This guy is amazing with the puck and he should be on the Carter line.

leafaholix*
12-21-2004, 12:31 AM
Just watching Ladd and Coburn play, it blows my mind how these guys were such high draft picks. And Ladd, well he does the small things well, but doesn't look like he's got any major upside to go #4 in the draft.

leafaholix*
12-21-2004, 12:38 AM
Btw... how ****** crafty is Corey Perry?

Jeeez.

He's got some nice hands.

Crosbyfan
12-21-2004, 12:59 AM
Btw... how ****** crafty is Corey Perry?

Jeeez.

He's got some nice hands.

He's got some awkward looking moves! He may not have the wheels but he can dangle flat-footed better than anyone.

Bandwagoner
12-21-2004, 01:01 AM
Corey Perry > Jeremy Colliton


Hopefully Sutter realizes this too.

Offensivewise Yes,

Defensive, Leadership, and Characterwise... not a chance

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
12-21-2004, 01:08 AM
What about Perry > Ladd. Ladd Didnt impress me and he looked like he should be the 13th foward. Everytime Perry was on the ice,something happened. This guy is amazing with the puck and he should be on the Carter line.

Very true. He and Getzlaf have played together before, so there might be some chemistry there(at least I hope so).

Either way, while a guy like Colliton is good defensively, IMO Perry is a much better fit on the offensive line. If I'm completely wrong, then Perry should at least be playing with some other line, and not be the 13th forward. He's way too talented to be the 13th forward.

Don Draper
12-21-2004, 01:24 AM
Jeez, Perry was very impressive. Reminded me, almost to the Tee of a 19yr old Spezza one on one. Slow skating, incredible hands, moves that work on junior players, strength and reach on the puck. And Spezza was supposed to carry the junior team that year, Perry is fwd 13, i guess this team is pretty deep.

Le Golie
12-21-2004, 01:24 AM
Just got home from the game. Wow is it a lot of fun to watch real hockey that people actually care about in this city again. Great game.

Canada was completely dominant. Owned the boards, owned the corners and owned the one on one battles. The Finnish goalie played a great game. Too bad we didn't see Rask though, but he sure as heck wouldn't have made an ounce of difference.

Random thoughts....

The Finnish warmup was straaange. Rask did not see one puck for the first 12 minutes. The other guy took every single shot, and then they split the final few minutes. Good thing he didn't get hurt, Rask didn't get any kind of warmup.

Finland looks like a one-line team. Nokolainen - Korpikoski - Tukonen created all the offensive chances the Finns got but Canada ate the other lines for breakfast.

A teammate of Brayden Coburn's in Portland was sitting right beside us ad he and his buddies were razzing him all game. It was pretty funny, Coburn did nothing all game so they had lots of ammo for him.

Crosby and Bergeron are going to have a ton of fun this tournament. They play the game on a different level than everyone else. Wow, you could just see them always reading each other and thinking the same things. They have enough pure skill to make up for the lack of history playing together, they still know exactly where they are going to be.

Phaneuf didn't have a great game, he got schooled in the first period and then kind of faded down the stretch. No real cause for concern though.

nikolai19
12-21-2004, 01:24 AM
I know that the Canadian team is a priority in this thread but can anyone tell me how Tuokonen looked for Finland?

Just curious from a King's fan POV

Crosbyfan
12-21-2004, 01:27 AM
Very true. He and Getzlaf have played together before, so there might be some chemistry there(at least I hope so).

Either way, while a guy like Colliton is good defensively, IMO Perry is a much better fit on the offensive line. If I'm completely wrong, then Perry should at least be playing with some other line, and not be the 13th forward. He's way too talented to be the 13th forward.

Sutter may want both Perry's hands and Colliton's wheels available for Bergeron & Crosby. Also Colliton will be used on the PK moreso than Crosby and possibly Bergeron. All 4 seemed to get a fair amount of icetime.

Le Golie
12-21-2004, 01:28 AM
I know that the Canadian team is a priority in this thread but can anyone tell me how Tuokonen looked for Finland?

Just curious from a King's fan POV

He was good. Creative flare. The whole line was pretty good but they were up against a pretty spectacular defence so they didn't get a ton of chances. Plus they were head to head with the Crosby line all night so they didn't have possession of the puck a ton.

RoyIsALegend*
12-21-2004, 01:51 AM
Canadian defence looks very impressive, and Jeff Glass seemed comfortable with the limited work-load he experienced.

I am sort of upset that it seems like Anthony Stewart won't have a major role on this club. He's just stuck down the pecking order of wingers this year, unfortunately.

Phaneuf, Dixon, Fraser, and Ladd didn't really impress me.

Came away impressed with Crosby, Bergeron, Richards, Carter, Weber, MacArthur and Perry. Getzlaf was alright.

banana phone
12-21-2004, 01:57 AM
Mike Richards reminds me alot of Gilbert Brule. Very similar styles.

Eldrick
12-21-2004, 02:18 AM
Phaneuf, Dixon, Fraser, and Ladd didn't really impress me.

I'll agree Phaneuf had an off game, and Dixon and Ladd weren't great but I really liked what I seen from Fraser. Hard work and was responsible in his own end, even getting on the scoresheet.

Seems like the perfect role player for this team...can't all be scorers.

Babyfart McGeezax
12-21-2004, 02:23 AM
Mike Richards reminds me alot of Gilbert Brule. Very similar styles.

Reminds you ?

Pepper
12-21-2004, 02:29 AM
I'm kinda glad that Finland really got trashed tonight, that should serve as a wake-up call for the players and the coach. I'm expecting a lot more from Team Finland when the real games start but apparently they sucked royally last night and they have to understand what it takes to play against the best.

chicpea*
12-21-2004, 03:09 AM
Came away impressed with Crosby, Bergeron, Richards, Carter, Weber, MacArthur and Perry. Getzlaf was alright.

Add Dawes and I agree 100%. Getlzaf was invisible for portions though.

tritone
12-21-2004, 03:46 AM
Holy Smokes!!!!! "The Next One!" Crosby was moniarchal out there, this tourney is going to be fun to watch!!!

Richards reminds me of Ron Francis !!! I'm loving this!!

Canada Rocks!!!! :yo:

wilka91*
12-21-2004, 07:26 AM
Boxscore? Recap? ANywhere?

Le Golie
12-21-2004, 07:39 AM
Boxscore? Recap? ANywhere?

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/e/teams/mens/junior/2005/results/122004_canfin.html

wilka91*
12-21-2004, 07:51 AM
thanks man ;)

rebedom
12-21-2004, 08:09 AM
Holy Smokes!!!!! "The Next One!" Crosby was moniarchal out there, this tourney is going to be fun to watch!!!

Richards reminds me of Ron Francis !!! I'm loving this!!

Canada Rocks!!!! :yo:

Me too, Richards even looks a bit like Ron Francis. :yo:

Macman
12-21-2004, 08:24 AM
It was like men playing boys. If it wasn't for the Finn goalie and four hit posts, it would have been really ugly. Crosby is a revelation. His acceleration is incredible. He pounces on loose pucks like few I've ever seen. I think we can already pencil in Canada for first in their division and a bye into the semis, which is a little worrisome because the other division seems much stronger on paper and Canada won't be tested until the semis. Last night's game also did nothing toward answering whether or not Canada has the goaltending to go all the way.

Dr.Sens(e)
12-21-2004, 08:46 AM
The thing that stood out to me...for those who haven't seen Crosby play since last year (like me), he seems quite a bit faster. He seemed to be the most dynamic skater on the ice by a fair margin.

Sutter's style of rolling over the four lines on shorter shifts seems to be a sound strategy. If Canada can keep up that intensity, it will be a major advantage at such a short tourney. It seemed like Canada got the momentum early and never let up, while the Finns just wanted to slow things down, but were never given the chance. They'll be better than that at the tourney, as Canada's style and the home ice advantage really put them in a tough situation. They never got into a groove.

Hat's off to the Finn goalie who really hung in there, even when the bounces started to turn Canada's way.

pei fan
12-21-2004, 09:28 AM
I am sort of upset that it seems like Anthony Stewart won't have a major role on this club. He's just stuck down the pecking order of wingers this year, unfortunately.



What? He's playing on the first line.

franchise player
12-21-2004, 09:35 AM
The thing that stood out to me...for those who haven't seen Crosby play since last year (like me), he seems quite a bit faster. He seemed to be the most dynamic skater on the ice by a fair margin.

Since his knee and ankle injury, he's a little bit less faster. It's improving each weeks tho. I'm pretty sure that he'll gain back all his speed before the end of the season. By the way, he's only 17 years old, he's going to be a lot faster than that in the nhl. The guy has a strong work ethic.

allrevvedup25
12-21-2004, 09:54 AM
After watching Bergeron last night, you can tell he played in the NHL. Nobody on the Finns could stop him, when they tryed to hit him, he flattened them!!! LOVE TO SEE THIS AS A CANADIAN!!!!

TML
12-21-2004, 09:56 AM
Which line did Ladd play on? How'd he look?

go kim johnsson 514
12-21-2004, 09:57 AM
Great...this game means absolutely nothing!

it means something because Mike Richards goal was #10 on ESPN's Top plays.

trahans99
12-21-2004, 10:16 AM
How did Corey Perry look? I saw bits and pieces of the game but didn't see much of him. I read he played well though. Any thoughts?

Blackshad
12-21-2004, 10:19 AM
How did Corey Perry look? I saw bits and pieces of the game but didn't see much of him. I read he played well though. Any thoughts?
I didnt know him. He impressed me alot.
Incredible hands

Jason MacIsaac
12-21-2004, 10:23 AM
Canadian defence looks very impressive, and Jeff Glass seemed comfortable with the limited work-load he experienced.

I am sort of upset that it seems like Anthony Stewart won't have a major role on this club. He's just stuck down the pecking order of wingers this year, unfortunately.

Phaneuf, Dixon, Fraser, and Ladd didn't really impress me.

Came away impressed with Crosby, Bergeron, Richards, Carter, Weber, MacArthur and Perry. Getzlaf was alright.
Pretty hard for Dixon to impress when he doesn't play. He played the least out of any forwards.

Wondercarrot
12-21-2004, 10:34 AM
Just watching Ladd and Coburn play, it blows my mind how these guys were such high draft picks. And Ladd, well he does the small things well, but doesn't look like he's got any major upside to go #4 in the draft.

Agreed.


I also find it odd that while commentators drool over Crosby's various talents, they don't discuss his spectacular speed.
They talk about his vision, shot, strength on the puck: which are all true but it flows from his speed, its simply unreal and looks totally effortless.

x Goodwill x
12-21-2004, 10:36 AM
Which line did Ladd play on? How'd he look?

He mostly played with Carter and Getzlaf he looked good.

pei fan
12-21-2004, 10:43 AM
The thing that stood out to me...for those who haven't seen Crosby play since last year (like me), he seems quite a bit faster. He seemed to be the most dynamic skater on the ice by a fair margin.


I think his flat out speed has improved a little but he has always had amazing
acceleration.I think the real difference you're noticing is he is playing wing instead
of a puck carrying center,thus utilizing his speed more.

Quite frankly,I'm a little surprised at all the gushing over Crosby compared to last
year when there were alot of naysayers.He was pretty impressive last as a 16 yr
old but he was only given 5-6 minutes of icetime a game.

The thing that does stand out for me is how well he is adjusting to wing but I
think playing with Bergeron helps.His skills are really best suited for center though.

DaaaaB's
12-21-2004, 11:25 AM
Canada definitly proved last night that they are the team to beat. This is the best Canadian junior team in a long time.
Glass played very solid last night and should be good enough for this team to win gold.
He has the best defence in the tournament in front of him. I thought Weber and Barker played awesome last night and Phaneuf played good but didn't stand out as much as I thought he would. The rest of the defence played very solid but I'd like to see more out of Coburn. His play seemed very average and I'd expect more out of a guy that was drafted 8th overall.
Right now I'd have Phaneuf, Barker, Weber and Belle ahead of Coburn as far as their play is concerned.
Up front Bergy and Crosby were amazing. Both Colliton and Perry looked good playing with them.
I was very impressed with the 4th line especially Fraser and MacCarthur. They hit everything in sight and are good backcheckers.
Richards line was good especially Richards himself. I'd like to see Stewart get more physical and really use his strength.
Carter's line had their chances and laid out some big hits as well.
Overall, I came away very impressed by the entire team as they looked very strong in every aspect of the game.

Jussi
12-21-2004, 11:59 AM
After watching Bergeron last night, you can tell he played in the NHL. Nobody on the Finns could stop him, when they tryed to hit him, he flattened them!!! LOVE TO SEE THIS AS A CANADIAN!!!!

Were Canada to win gold, would he then be the first player to win a World Championship gold before a World Junior gold?

colonel_korn
12-21-2004, 12:20 PM
Were Canada to win gold, would he then be the first player to win a World Championship gold before a World Junior gold?

The guys on TSN last night seemed to think that he might very well be the first player to even *play* in the World Juniors after winning an World Championship gold. So, yes. :)

s7ark
12-21-2004, 12:29 PM
How did Corey Perry look? I saw bits and pieces of the game but didn't see much of him. I read he played well though. Any thoughts?


He was great. I really think he should be on the line with Bergeron and Crosby. I was very impressed with Perry. Looking quite good. Hopefully coach will see the potential there and give him a shot. he is far far better then the 13th forward position he was playing. Actually after Crosby, Bergeron and Richards, he was the next best forward.

ktownhockey
12-21-2004, 12:58 PM
[its pmcguire@tsn.ca

LaLaLaprise
12-21-2004, 01:01 PM
True.

I don't think anyone would deny you that claim.

However, I think the line of Crosby-Bergeron-Colliton allows Crosby and Bergeron a much greater luxury of focusing solely on playing on the offensive with the defensive awareness of Colliton.

Crosby/Bergy dont need to have a grinding winger on thier line. Bergeron played in the NHL, obviously his defensive game is near the best on the team if he could play at that level. Also Crosby's defensive game is underrated because of what he does offensivly. Perry should be on that line. Just because Colliton is on teh 2nd line it doesnt mean that Crosby and Bergy are floating.

I dont really get the logic of putting Colliton with them.

Flames Draft Watcher
12-21-2004, 01:23 PM
Crosby/Bergy dont need to have a grinding winger on thier line. Bergeron played in the NHL, obviously his defensive game is near the best on the team if he could play at that level. Also Crosby's defensive game is underrated because of what he does offensivly. Perry should be on that line. Just because Colliton is on teh 2nd line it doesnt mean that Crosby and Bergy are floating.

I dont really get the logic of putting Colliton with them.

I think it gives them a player who plays more of a powerforward style than Perry. Colliton can grind along the boards and get the puck out of the corner. He can tie up defenders to give Crosby and Bergeron more open ice. He can drive the net.

In general I like the idea of playing a guy who plays more of a power game with a couple players who play more a finesse style.

Vic Rattlehead
12-21-2004, 01:24 PM
Great to see Bergeron played well with Crosby.

LaLaLaprise
12-21-2004, 01:32 PM
The 13th forward in the past has come up big for Canada

98 - Tangauy was 13th and led the team in scoring
99 - Gagne was 13th and he worked his up and was a top scorer on the team
00 - Reid was 13th forward and he worked his up as well.

Dont count out those 13th forwards :)

trahans99
12-21-2004, 01:42 PM
Crosby/Bergy dont need to have a grinding winger on thier line. Bergeron played in the NHL, obviously his defensive game is near the best on the team if he could play at that level. Also Crosby's defensive game is underrated because of what he does offensivly. Perry should be on that line. Just because Colliton is on teh 2nd line it doesnt mean that Crosby and Bergy are floating.

I dont really get the logic of putting Colliton with them.

Me neither :dunno:

Bandwagoner
12-21-2004, 02:41 PM
Crosby/Bergy dont need to have a grinding winger on thier line. Bergeron played in the NHL, obviously his defensive game is near the best on the team if he could play at that level. Also Crosby's defensive game is underrated because of what he does offensivly. Perry should be on that line. Just because Colliton is on teh 2nd line it doesnt mean that Crosby and Bergy are floating.

I dont really get the logic of putting Colliton with them.

Well, I think two goals from that line is a pretty good reason to keep them together. Plus some people forget that Perry got the chance to play with Bergeron and Crosby and tryouts and pretty much did absolutely nothing. Now we can argue over this all night long. But I think a 6-0 win against the Fins is a very nice start and we shouldn't be changing anything. Keep Perry on the PP with those two, and keep Colitton 5 on 5. It has seem to be working well.

By the way, I really liked the PP last night. Bergeron is amazing.

Brock
12-21-2004, 02:54 PM
The 13th forward in the past has come up big for Canada

98 - Tangauy was 13th and led the team in scoring
99 - Gagne was 13th and he worked his up and was a top scorer on the team
00 - Reid was 13th forward and he worked his up as well.

Dont count out those 13th forwards :)

I'd add Mike Zigomanis from a couple years ago to this list as well. Another guy who worked his way up and was playing a crucial role by the medal rounds.

As Bob Mackenzie has said on the telecasts. The player who starts the tournament as the 13th forward, very rarely finishes the tournament as the 13th forward.

chicpea*
12-21-2004, 03:07 PM
Well, I think two goals from that line is a pretty good reason to keep them together. Plus some people forget that Perry got the chance to play with Bergeron and Crosby and tryouts and pretty much did absolutely nothing. Now we can argue over this all night long. But I think a 6-0 win against the Fins is a very nice start and we shouldn't be changing anything. Keep Perry on the PP with those two, and keep Colitton 5 on 5. It has seem to be working well.

I agree. Bergeron, Crosby, and Colliton seemed pretty darn effective to me without Perry. Similarly, no one can argue that Perry was invisible last night. He had tonnes of ice time and was dangerous on every line he played. Maybe I'll change my opinion when the Bergeron line starts dipping in the plus/minus category. Until then, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.


By the way, what really impressed me about Crosby last night wasn't his speed, his shot, his vision or his strength. It was his brain and his determination when it came to the one on one battles. Seriously, I don't think he lost a single battle in the corners or along the boards. And there were a lot of them. He would come up with the puck in the most improbable situations. Simply amazing.

Wondercarrot
12-21-2004, 04:50 PM
Seriously, I don't think he lost a single battle in the corners or along the boards. And there were a lot of them. He would come up with the puck in the most improbable situations. Simply amazing.

So true.
his balance is obscene.... he simply inserts himself into the play and always seems to be the one to come up with the puck.

chicpea*
12-21-2004, 05:24 PM
Does anyone have any news on Seabrook? I know that pmcguire@tsn.ca was hinting last night that he was still very tender and can't even shoot at the moment. It's only four days away now and I'm not sure Sutter will go with a guy who's, at best, at 75% :dunno:

Perkele
12-21-2004, 05:41 PM
Any thoughts on how Teemu Laakso played last nite? Thanks.