Team Canada Lines

TSN is reporting that the lines are
Colliton - Crsoby - Bergeron
Dawes - Richards - Stewart
Ladd - Carter - Getzlaf

they didnt discuss the other line but having perry on the 4th line seems odd to me.....

I thought I heard somewhere that perry would be utilized on special teams and to fill in on the top lines in the event someone was injured or not performing

Bob was right.

I was hopeing to see Dawes and Crosby play together. Have to wait and see how it shakes down.

I dont understand why Colliton would be placed on the top line. I like Colliton as a player but he is not near the finisher or the scorer that Perry is.

do they not have crosby as a winger.. or did they change it and put him center

I dont understand why Colliton would be placed on the top line. I like Colliton as a player but he is not near the finisher or the scorer that Perry is.

I don't really understand it either but some one else posted a link to an article in the Sun that explains sutter's rationale. Here's the link again

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/Sports/2004/12/18/pf-787963.html

do they not have crosby as a winger.. or did they change it and put him center

Yeah I´m also surprised about that... but center fits better to crosby. he will be more productive and it seems to me that the coach found confidance in him.

I dont understand why Colliton would be placed on the top line. I like Colliton as a player but he is not near the finisher or the scorer that Perry is.

they probably aren't looking for him to score...with crosby and bergeron on the line, they might feel that there are other dimension that he can add to the line that make the line better then more scoring

TSN is reporting that the lines are
Colliton - Crsoby - Bergeron
Dawes - Richards - Stewart
Ladd - Carter - Getzlaf

they didnt discuss the other line but having perry on the 4th line seems odd to me.....

Isn´t the line Colliton Bergeron Crosby?

Colliton is a good player, he impressed me at the remax tournament against the russians believe me hell do more than OK. Also he's a a much better skater than Perry and better defensively. The only way we will see Perry playing on that line is if Canada is trailing and are badly in need of a goal.

TSN is reporting that the lines are
Colliton - Crsoby - Bergeron
Dawes - Richards - Stewart
Ladd - Carter - Getzlaf

they didnt discuss the other line but having perry on the 4th line seems odd to me.....
The Score reported the lines as being:
Ladd-Carter-Getzlaf
Crosby-Bergeron-Colliton
Dawes-Richards-Stewart
MacArthur-Dixon-Fraser
Perry

Now, I dont' know about anyone else, but I am losing my mind with Sutter. How can you have Perry as your 13th forward? How can you have that as your 2nd line as opposed to top line? Who is Clarke MacArthur and why did he make this team instead of Eric Fehr? I'm not even touching the topic of Fraser making the team given his junior team... Green didnt make it, Nastiuk and Dubnyk gone...... And all the players not even asked to camp. I hate to say it, but I hope we lose this year because I am disgusted with the way they ran this team.

Crosby should be playing center. He is such a good playmaker, the other lines seem ok. The Dawes - Richards - Stewart was so effective last year and I hope they will be as good this year, they should be because most of the other teams attention will be on the Crosby/Bergeron duo.

What about defensemen pairings?

Are they available?

What about defensemen pairings?

Are they available?The Score said the first pairing will be Phaneuf with Weber. After that, I'm going by memory here and to be honest, I was pretty upset with that line combo so I didn't pay as close attention to the rest. But I believe it was this:
Phaneuf-Weber
Belle-Coburn
Barker-Syvret/Quincey

Seabrook was left off the list because of the injury. I could be wrong mind you, but I am pretty sure those were the combo's The Score reported a few nights ago...

Who is Clarke MacArthur and why did he make this team instead of Eric Fehr?

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect.php?pid=3772
http://www.whl.ca/stats/player.php?id=23569

Hockey's Future has him as Buffalo's seventh-best prospect.

As for why he made the team ahead of Fehr, you'll have to ask Sutter about that.

After watching Colliton in last year tourney, as well as a few times this year (Dub, Remax challenge), he a much better playmaker than people give him credit for. Sure he might not finish that well, but he'll sure give Crosby and Bergeron the opportunities to. Colliton's a guy that will go in the corner and take a hit to make a pass, not to mention he's got great defensive abilities. I think it's a good fit for Crosby and Bergeron, I'm excited to see them play together. I think they'll surprise a lot of people.

The Score reported the lines as being:
Ladd-Carter-Getzlaf
Crosby-Bergeron-Colliton
Dawes-Richards-Stewart
MacArthur-Dixon-Fraser
Perry

Now, I dont' know about anyone else, but I am losing my mind with Sutter. How can you have Perry as your 13th forward? How can you have that as your 2nd line as opposed to top line? Who is Clarke MacArthur and why did he make this team instead of Eric Fehr? I'm not even touching the topic of Fraser making the team given his junior team... Green didnt make it, Nastiuk and Dubnyk gone...... And all the players not even asked to camp. I hate to say it, but I hope we lose this year because I am disgusted with the way they ran this team.

link?

link?It was on TV. James Cybulski did a preview after they cut the last set of players and then they put those up, claiming that's what Team Canada was going with.

I dont understand why Colliton would be placed on the top line. I like Colliton as a player but he is not near the finisher or the scorer that Perry is.

Crosby and Bergeron can't play defense worth a plugged nickel ..

Colliton role is to make up for their defensive deficiencies, and adding Perry just makes the situation worse ... Sutter knows what he is doing .. Perry will get PP time and be the 13th forward ...

Who is Canada's starter? Glass or Beuchemin? Will they be rotating them?

Thanks in advance.

Crosby and Bergeron can't play defense worth a plugged nickel ..

Colliton role is to make up for their defensive deficiencies, and adding Perry just makes the situation worse ... Sutter knows what he is doing .. Perry will get PP time and be the 13th forward ...

Defensive deficiencies? Crosby is way above average on defense and Bergeron is above average on defense in the... NHL! So I don't think that Sutter made a good decision, Perry should be their linemate!

Defensive deficiencies? Crosby is way above average on defense and Bergeron is above average on defense in the... NHL! So I don't think that Sutter made a good decision, Perry should be their linemate!

Crosby is above average in the weak Q but at WJC? probably but i´m not sure. Bergeron is average in the nhl but not above!! imao :lol

Wow, people are underrating Bergeron defensively. He is pretty good defensively and played very well last year in defence situations. Oh I see, people need to watch him more, that must be it.

Defensive deficiencies? Crosby is way above average on defense and Bergeron is above average on defense in the... NHL! So I don't think that Sutter made a good decision, Perry should be their linemate!


DIDO :bow:

So Perry's 3 highlight reel goals get him a 13th forward spot on the team :dunno:

And Sutter or Mackansey said he'd have to prove he could make the top 2 lines to make the team. He proved he could be on the top 2 lines easily, so why is he 13th?

people really need to get over this first line second line crap

it's four lines, bottom line

people really need to get over this first line second line crap

it's four lines, bottom line
Agreed, I am willing to bet the third line (Getzlaf, Carter and Ladd) will get just as much ice time if not more then the 1st line (Crosby, Bergeron, other guy)

The Score reported the lines as being:
Ladd-Carter-Getzlaf
Crosby-Bergeron-Colliton
Dawes-Richards-Stewart
MacArthur-Dixon-Fraser
Perry

Now, I dont' know about anyone else, but I am losing my mind with Sutter. How can you have Perry as your 13th forward? How can you have that as your 2nd line as opposed to top line? Who is Clarke MacArthur and why did he make this team instead of Eric Fehr? I'm not even touching the topic of Fraser making the team given his junior team... Green didnt make it, Nastiuk and Dubnyk gone...... And all the players not even asked to camp. I hate to say it, but I hope we lose this year because I am disgusted with the way they ran this team.
I wonder if that's the order as well.Sutter really seems to like Carter and personally
I don't see him playing Crosby's line very much.The mentality that has Perry playing
as the 13th forward is going to have the Richards line and Carter line playing alot,
just like last year when it seemed like they were on the ice the entire time.

Crosby and Bergeron can't play defense worth a plugged nickel ..

...

Bergeron can't play defensive???????????? You obviously never seen the kid play. He was as solid as a two-way player can get. Coaches and players were commenting on his play as he looked like a 5-10 year veteran.
:shakehead

Bergeron is good defensivly in the NHL and AHL. He will dominate that aspect of the game vs kids.

I dont understand why Colliton would be placed on the top line. I like Colliton as a player but he is not near the finisher or the scorer that Perry is.

What, you've never heard of putting more of a grinder on a line to battle in the corners for the puck and get it to his more finesse oriented linemates? And it's not like Colliton has stone hands either.

It's a pretty common tactic in the NHL. Holmstrom often plays with players more talented than he is but he's there to do a specific job, play a specific role.

The Score said the first pairing will be Phaneuf with Weber. After that, I'm going by memory here and to be honest, I was pretty upset with that line combo so I didn't pay as close attention to the rest.

Why?

Now, I dont' know about anyone else, but I am losing my mind with Sutter. How can you have Perry as your 13th forward? How can you have that as your 2nd line as opposed to top line? Who is Clarke MacArthur and why did he make this team instead of Eric Fehr? I'm not even touching the topic of Fraser making the team given his junior team... Green didnt make it, Nastiuk and Dubnyk gone...... And all the players not even asked to camp. I hate to say it, but I hope we lose this year because I am disgusted with the way they ran this team.


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Looks like 3 number one lines to me. Whining about which one is called the second or first line makes little to no sense.

I'm not sure how you can be "disgusted" with how "they" ran this team. Newsflash, Sutter doesn't pick the team based on prospect rankings. He's trying to get the best "team" not the best collection of individuals. If you saw a lot of the camp, and have seen a bunch of all 3 junior leagues so far this year you'd be qualified to second guess him. But I'm not sure how you could think your opinion is better than Sutter's if you haven't.

I think it's funny to see messageboard fanboys who think they could do a better job running the team than a guy like Brent Sutter. Give me a break.

Bergeron can prolbably grind as well as anyone in the tournament, it makes little sense to have colliton on that line.

What, you've never heard of putting more of a grinder on a line to battle in the corners for the puck and get it to his more finesse oriented linemates? And it's not like Colliton has stone hands either.

It's a pretty common tactic in the NHL. Holmstrom often plays with players more talented than he is but he's there to do a specific job, play a specific role.

Oh I've heard of it. I just believe Perry would be more effective on the top line. Why can't Canada go with a pure scoring line rather than always having to have someone who is responisble defensively but not as talented or skilled. This is no bash towards Colliton as I love him as a player but Perry would thrive on that line and his linemates would benefit from his presence as well. If my team needed a goal that's the line I would want on the ice.

I think we have to be patient, Colliton is there because of his complete game. However, Perry has maybe the best hands ive seen from a Canadian prospect in a long time. I'm sure he's not a Sutter type of player but he'll have no choice to put him on a regular line.

Also, Perry is a plus 30 this year, second on the London Knights only to captain Danny Syrvet. Now I realize the line he is on and how many goals they have scored but you cannot tell me that Perry is totally incompetant defensively.

Yes Bergeron is a good two way forward in the NHL. But maybe Sutter wants him to play alittle more offensively and is freeing him up more to do that by putting Colliton on the line.

I like haveing a coupel defensive forwards in the lineup b/c wiht this club were most likely gonna be sitting on alot of leads. Defensive forwards usually do a better job of protecting a lead than offensive types.