Ugh, TSN is really stretching thin I guess...

littleD
12-17-2004, 01:21 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_story.asp?ID=108360

I'm a Crosby fan as much as anyone, but do we really need 30 minutes of TSN analysts' Crosby-orgasms?

wilka91*
12-17-2004, 01:23 PM
I've seen a 10-year old nextdoor, and he's gonna be the next Wayne Gretzky Lemieux!!! I wanna see him on teh shoew on teh TSN!!!

Levitate
12-17-2004, 01:59 PM
The puck from Crosby's record-setting goal is currently exhibited in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

is it just me or does that seem a little excessive? (the puck from being the youngest player to score for canada in the WJC's)

i mean, sure it's great he's the youngest guy to score in the juniors tournament for canada...but the hockey hall of fame?

Tricolore#20
12-17-2004, 02:09 PM
is it just me or does that seem a little excessive? (the puck from being the youngest player to score for canada in the WJC's)

i mean, sure it's great he's the youngest guy to score in the juniors tournament for canada...but the hockey hall of fame?

Yeah well thats the Hockey Hall of Fame, which houses overhyped displays. They find a way to give significance to even relatively unimportant things.

JF
12-17-2004, 02:13 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_story.asp?ID=108360

I'm a Crosby fan as much as anyone, but do we really need 30 minutes of TSN analysts' Crosby-orgasms?

Well, I'd rather watch this then some curling or poker...
Damn lock-out :(

ArtG
12-17-2004, 02:14 PM
poker kicks ass..

bonefizzle
12-17-2004, 02:29 PM
I can't wait to watch the 30 min show... it just boils down to whether you are a hater or not i guess.. they always do stuff like this before the world juniors

Papa Smurf
12-17-2004, 02:36 PM
I'll watch it. However they are really over hyping Crosy and not just him. The whole Canadian team is being over hyped by TSN. I won't be surprised at all if Canada doesn't win this tournament as they don't seem to be as strong as they were the past couple years. But TSN is acting as if their the team of the century.

alecfromtherock
12-17-2004, 02:57 PM
I agree the puck of the youngest Canadian to score in world junior is a bit over the top.

Even if it was Crosby’s first goal, the game winner in the gold, I would still question its relevance in the hall of fame.

Tricolore#20
12-17-2004, 03:15 PM
I'll watch it. However they are really over hyping Crosy and not just him. The whole Canadian team is being over hyped by TSN. I won't be surprised at all if Canada doesn't win this tournament as they don't seem to be as strong as they were the past couple years. But TSN is acting as if their the team of the century.

The TSN lovefest for Team Canada bothers me too. It happens every year. I can understand that they would have a partial Canadian-bias. However, whenever a Euro goes down, more often than not, whoever is calling the game (Gary Green or McGuire now) say that it is a dive. They also reinforce classical European stereotypes, citing them as the weakness of these players. At the same time they love to use the Canadian character to elevate the status of Canadian players. I love the TSN coverage in general, as they help fill a hockey void over the holidays. But the extreme bias at times turns me off.

Sideline
12-17-2004, 03:27 PM
The TSN lovefest for Team Canada bothers me too. It happens every year. I can understand that they would have a partial Canadian-bias. However, whenever a Euro goes down, more often than not, whoever is calling the game (Gary Green or McGuire now) say that it is a dive. They also reinforce classical European stereotypes, citing them as the weakness of these players. At the same time they love to use the Canadian character to elevate the status of Canadian players. I love the TSN coverage in general, as they help fill a hockey void over the holidays. But the extreme bias at times turns me off.

Do you remeber the hard on McGuire had for Valtteri Filppula and Ruutu? McGuire just has a type of player he likes and lets people know.He yells about everything. The reason he talks about diving from the Europeans is because they do dive more often.

Heat McManus
12-17-2004, 03:52 PM
I agree the puck of the youngest Canadian to score in world junior is a bit over the top.

Even if it was Crosby’s first goal, the game winner in the gold, I would still question its relevance in the hall of fame.


I haven't been there, but I've been to the baseball hall of fame and I would imagine there are far more irrelevant things there than this puck.

Epsilon
12-17-2004, 03:55 PM
Well, I'd rather watch this then some curling or poker...
Damn lock-out :(

Greg "Fossilman" Raymer > Sidney Crosby

Cruiser008
12-17-2004, 04:05 PM
poker kicks ass..

Damn strrrraight! I'd take some WPT action over this anyway of the week, twice on Sundays! :D


On a related note BOY OH BOY I've never seen TSN this desperate!

They should have a TSN version of that Molson Canadian commercial starring TSN personalities, and with Bob Mackenzie singing "Do you really wanna MAKE ME CRY" :cry:

Cruiser008
12-17-2004, 04:07 PM
Greg "Fossilman" Raymer > Sidney Crosby

They should do a 30 min. feature of Raymer then!... with in-depth interviews of how he collected fossils!! :D :D :D

JF
12-17-2004, 04:11 PM
Greg "Fossilman" Raymer > Sidney Crosby

lol, I can't argue with that... He can eat 10 Crosbys for breakfest.
http://www.fossilmanpoker.com/

Epsilon
12-17-2004, 04:11 PM
Which lineup is better?

Sidney Crosby - Patrice Bergeron - Nigel Dawes
Dion Phaneuf - Cam Barker
Jeff Glass

coach: Brent Sutter

vs.

Chris "Jesus" Ferguson - Gus Hansen - Daniel Negranu
Phil Hellmuth Jr. - Phil "the Unabomber" Laak
Greg "Fossilman" Raymer

coach: Howard "the Professor" Lederer

Cruiser008
12-17-2004, 04:22 PM
Which lineup is better?

Sidney Crosby - Patrice Bergeron - Nigel Dawes
Dion Phaneuf - Cam Barker
Jeff Glass

coach: Brent Sutter

vs.

Chris "Jesus" Ferguson - Gus Hansen - Daniel Negranu
Phil Hellmuth Jr. - Phil "the Unabomber" Laak
Greg "Fossilman" Raymer

coach: Howard "the Professor" Lederer



Jesus > Crosby
Hansen < Bergeron
Negranu >> Dawes

Hellmuth Jr. = Phaneuf
Unabomber < Barker
Fossilman > Glass

Professor > Sutter


Let the debate begin!

:joker:

ktownhockey
12-17-2004, 04:25 PM
Why is everyone on this post being so bitter?

Are you not Canadians? do you noty enjoy stories of our young talent? Whenever stuff like this comes on I love it.. Id much rather watch a junior hockey story on a supreme talent right now then to watch some idiots talk about a "cost certainty" and a salary roll-back...

Why don't we just appreciate the attention TSN focuses on junior hockey and not talk about "hards on" for players and how you'd rather watch curling ....

Why don't you go to curlingsfuture.com and make some posts cause we don't want to hear it. A true hockey fan enjoys all aspects of the sport... and recognizes and appreciates a special hockey player when they see him. Crosby has done this by leading the CHL in scoring as a 16th (a young one I might add) ,being the youngest player to score at the world juniors while registering 4-5 points (depending on who you want to ask) and being the overwhelming favorite to be the number 1 pick in the draft.
With the NHL in the state its in .... I will watch this special and just be happy that anything relevant to hockey and the future of our game is on....

Im not saying Crosby is gonna be Lemeiux or Gretzky BUT he has the potential to be and this is exciting... so you can agree or disagree with this special but TSN is right and people will watch this whether you want to or not.

Epsilon
12-17-2004, 04:34 PM
Hansen < Bergeron

Nah I disagree with that one. Hansen is the WTP "Bad Boys of Poker" champion so I think he'd beat up on Bergeron pretty hard.

bigguns
12-17-2004, 04:44 PM
I think that crosby is an awesome player and obviously has a very prosperous future in the NHL. But, I think that it is a shame that all the attention is focused on him and not from a jealous point of view. You would think that he might want to be a kid every once in awhile and not have a microphone shoved up his nose everytime he turns a corner. There is a lot of talent in junior hockey right now, and i think it's great that TSN is promoting junoir players, I just think there could be a better way to do it that "the crosby show". Run a special on the top 5 forwards in the CHL right now, or maybe showcase some of the talent of those surprise picks that made the team to try and win over supporters. Have a "get to know the players" special where you learn little tidbits about their development, who they look up to or what they think of the lockout. Basically, anything else. I've been to the hockey hall of fame, it's a great place but this puck could be one of the displays you get to and think "i came all the way here for this?" before moving on to a more interesting exhibit.

Rob Paxon
12-17-2004, 05:00 PM
I think that crosby is an awesome player and obviously has a very prosperous future in the NHL. But, I think that it is a shame that all the attention is focused on him and not from a jealous point of view. You would think that he might want to be a kid every once in awhile and not have a microphone shoved up his nose everytime he turns a corner. There is a lot of talent in junior hockey right now, and i think it's great that TSN is promoting junoir players, I just think there could be a better way to do it that "the crosby show". Run a special on the top 5 forwards in the CHL right now, or maybe showcase some of the talent of those surprise picks that made the team to try and win over supporters. Have a "get to know the players" special where you learn little tidbits about their development, who they look up to or what they think of the lockout. Basically, anything else. I've been to the hockey hall of fame, it's a great place but this puck could be one of the displays you get to and think "i came all the way here for this?" before moving on to a more interesting exhibit.

I agree; this moderate view of the issue makes most sense.

Kugel
12-17-2004, 05:07 PM
I'll watch it. However they are really over hyping Crosy and not just him. The whole Canadian team is being over hyped by TSN. I won't be surprised at all if Canada doesn't win this tournament as they don't seem to be as strong as they were the past couple years. But TSN is acting as if their the team of the century.
the reason y TSN thinks this is the team of century is because they haave the most returning players ever from a 2nd place team and also b.c of the lockout there aer some players that probably woudl be in the NHL that are here, like phaneuf begeron possible seabrook, etc. and the last time there was a lockout canada had its best team ever....they went undefeated.....and chances are there will be no returning palyers next year cause crosby adn barker will probably be in the NHL. so they r hyongi this year's team

Devonator
12-17-2004, 05:18 PM
Anything.........and I mean anything is better then the boring idiocy of Curling!! Fat out of shape men playing shuffleboard on a massive scale is about as stupid as anything!!

It is going to be a long winter in Canada with hour upon hour of Curling on TSN ad nauseum........that is when we are really going to miss hockey....

At least we are seeing some old classic nhl games.......that sure brings back the memories....

Steveorama
12-17-2004, 08:00 PM
This probably is the best team Canada has ever sent. The average age is well over 19 (even with Crosby), making it the oldest team we have ever sent. At this level of junior, experience and maturity mean so much. The only team comparable to this one might be 1994-95.
And don't knock Crosby, either. Back in the late 70's when Gretzky started tearing up Junior and the WJC, everybody was calling him overrated, and calling him a skinny kid who would get clobbered in the pros.
Guess they were wrong, too.

espo
12-17-2004, 10:22 PM
I don't see anything wrong in doing a short special on a kid who many hockey observers see as special.It's Canada, of course they are going to do hockey related stories......and tons of people will watch it too.

Bandwagoner
12-18-2004, 01:10 AM
Doesn't the CBC have the rights to Curling now??? Not TSN??? Oh well, I think a 30 minute "Crosby Show" is a little bit much. But I mean with no NHL season what else is TSN going to do. Though it would be cool if they did sort of series on other CHL prospects, such as Brule. But who knows. Don't know if I'll watch the episode or not. I think Crosby is getting enough attention as it is... but I must say he is coping with it very well.

Vlad The Impaler
12-18-2004, 02:42 AM
Why is everyone on this post being so bitter?

They may sound bitter but in reality, I think they just want responsible, balanced journalism as opposed to the lame feel-good fiction pieces you obviously enjoy.

There are ways to focus on a national team without yet again dubbing a player "the next one".

You can't ever just be the next "yourself" anymore with hockey media. If you're over 6 foot 6 and a Slovak who can't skate for ****, you gotta be the next Chara. If you're a Czech goalie and are athletic, you're obviously the next Hasek. And if you've got 374 brothers like Staal, some third rate hockey publication HAS to say EVERY FREAKING ONE OF THEM is going to be better than the elder. And every couple of years (when it's not two years in a row), the top of the draft class has to be the next Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, etc.

Do yourself a favor. Don't just watch the Crosby special. TAPE it. And in a couple of years, just put it in the VCR to be amazed at how gullible you were back then.

Barnaby
12-18-2004, 03:31 AM
Which lineup is better?

Sidney Crosby - Patrice Bergeron - Nigel Dawes
Dion Phaneuf - Cam Barker
Jeff Glass

coach: Brent Sutter

vs.

Chris "Jesus" Ferguson - Gus Hansen - Daniel Negranu
Phil Hellmuth Jr. - Phil "the Unabomber" Laak
Greg "Fossilman" Raymer

coach: Howard "the Professor" Lederer

Where is Lederer?

His sister could kick Bergeron's *** by the way :D

espo
12-18-2004, 12:13 PM
They may sound bitter but in reality, I think they just want responsible, balanced journalism as opposed to the lame feel-good fiction pieces you obviously enjoy.

There are ways to focus on a national team without yet again dubbing a player "the next one".

You can't ever just be the next "yourself" anymore with hockey media. If you're over 6 foot 6 and a Slovak who can't skate for ****, you gotta be the next Chara. If you're a Czech goalie and are athletic, you're obviously the next Hasek. And if you've got 374 brothers like Staal, some third rate hockey publication HAS to say EVERY FREAKING ONE OF THEM is going to be better than the elder. And every couple of years (when it's not two years in a row), the top of the draft class has to be the next Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, etc.

Do yourself a favor. Don't just watch the Crosby special. TAPE it. And in a couple of years, just put it in the VCR to be amazed at how gullible you were back then.
You don't think he'll be a great player? I'd be interested to hear if you think he's overrated and why. :)

Cruiser008
12-18-2004, 08:47 PM
Where is Lederer?

His sister could kick Bergeron's *** by the way :D

Yes Annie Duke (the Queen of Poker) should be on that team as well, and also Johnny 'The Oriental Express' Chan, Men 'The Master' Nguyen and Phil 'Tiger Woods' Ivey!



Yup TSN should definitely increase its Poker coverage in light of the lockout!!

Cruiser008
12-18-2004, 08:55 PM
I think that crosby is an awesome player and obviously has a very prosperous future in the NHL. But, I think that it is a shame that all the attention is focused on him and not from a jealous point of view. You would think that he might want to be a kid every once in awhile and not have a microphone shoved up his nose everytime he turns a corner.

I agree as well. Perhaps no hockey player has ever had such pressure, media coverage and great expectations at such a young age (esp. with the amount of media these days). The kid is 17 for god sakes. You could argue that because Canada is hockey mad Crosby should embrace the spotlight and expectations shone on him, and is that fair? I think not.

Habfansincebirth
12-19-2004, 12:18 PM
Only time will tell whether or not TSN is overhyping Crosby.

If in 20 years he is considered one of the greatest of all time, then we will look back at this TSN special and say "Wow, they weren't kidding when they said he would be awesome.", and be gratefull that TSN had this great early footage of Crosby.

If on the other hand he turns into Alexandre Daigle, we will look back and say "Wow, TSN really missed the boat on that one.", and will use the special as lesson in counting your eggs before they hatch.

I am personnally looking forward to the special, because Crosby is special. He is head and shoulders better than any junior since Lindros.

MOGiLNY
12-19-2004, 12:23 PM
meh, I remember one night getting ready to watch hockey night in Canada, Ron Maclean talked about a 13 or 14 year old kid named Sydney Crosby who broke one of Gretzky's records or something so CBC is way ahead of everyone else as far as Crosby goes..