Team Russia roster announced

Kaizer
12-17-2004, 10:41 AM
http://www.rian.ru/rian/intro.cfm?nws_id=763661
I translate it now.

Kaizer
12-17-2004, 10:53 AM
Goalie:
Anton Khudobin (Metallurg Mg)
Andrei Kuzntetsov (Salavat Ulaev)

Defensemen:
Grigory Panin (Lada)
Dmitry Vorobiev (Lada)
Alexei Emelin (Lada)
Dmitry Megalinsky (Lokomotiv)
Grigory Misharin (Neftekhimik)
Yakov Rylov (Dymamo)
Anton Belov (CSKA)
Denis Ezhov (Metallurg Nk)

Forwards:
Evgeny Malkin (Metallurg Mg)
Dmitry Pestunov (Metallurg Mg)
Alexander Ovechkin (Dynamo)
Denis Parshin (CSKA)
Alexander Nikulin (CSKA)
Sergey Shirokov (CSKA)
Enver Lisin (AkBars)
Alexandr Radulov (Quebec Ramparts)
Roman Volsohenko (Krylia Sovetov)
Mikhail Yun'kov (Krylia Sovetov)
Alexander Galimov (Lokomotiv)
Grigory Shafigulin (Lokomotiv)
Sergery Salnikov (Salavat Yulaev)

Alexander Aksenenko (Sibir) and Konstanin Romanov (Dynamo) as first reserve.

red devil
12-17-2004, 11:00 AM
There's 23 players on the roster, is there going to be another cut ?

leafaholix*
12-17-2004, 11:04 AM
There's 23 players on the roster, is there going to be another cut ?
There's 8 defensemen, maybe another cut on the blueline?

Riggs
12-17-2004, 11:04 AM
Thanks Kaizer.

Any surprises on the team/not on the team?

Senator Stanley
12-17-2004, 11:12 AM
I'm not surprised, but I'm dissapointed that Lyamin didn't make it. Anybody have any insight as to what's going on with him?

Kaizer
12-17-2004, 11:13 AM
Thanks Kaizer.

Any surprises on the team/not on the team?
Imho, Ezhov and Emelin are surprises at D. I don't understand why Pervyshin was cut.
Among F, there are Galimov, Salnikov and Shirokov. Galimov was good in last games so he could impress coaches with his performance. Shirokov as I read was good at ReMax. I cannot say anything about Salnikov. Notable cuts were Ogorodnikov and K. Makarov.
But Glazachev even wasn't invited to the camp as I know. He played for Sibir yesterday when U-20 team played against Spartak.

Kaizer
12-17-2004, 11:18 AM
I'm not surprised, but I'm dissapointed that Lyamin didn't make it. Anybody have any insight as to what's going on with him?
He couldn't crack CSKA roster and was bad at ReMax. There is a result, IMO.

helicecopter
12-17-2004, 11:27 AM
Where the hell (why are not there??) are Glazachev and Pervyshin?? :shakehead
And who is this Salnikov?

Enoch
12-17-2004, 11:46 AM
Is this the same Russian coach from last year? If so, he didn't invite Glazachev two years in a row :eek:

Jason MacIsaac
12-17-2004, 12:08 PM
I still can't beleive Khomutov wasn't given a sniff. He got stiffed from the under 18 team and now the under 20 team.

John Druce
12-17-2004, 12:15 PM
That's a dandy forward crop.

soilwork2004
12-17-2004, 12:19 PM
Can't wait to see Mike Richards take Ovechkin into the boards!

wilka91*
12-17-2004, 12:22 PM
Can't wait to see Mike Richards take Ovechkin into the boards!

Who is Mike Richards? :dunno:

red devil
12-17-2004, 12:29 PM
With 23 players on the roster (not including the reserves), does there have to be another cut? If so, who would be the most likely one ?

TORRUS
12-17-2004, 12:29 PM
Is this the same Russian coach from last year? If so, he didn't invite Glazachev two years in a row :eek:

No, it's not the same coach. Ishmatov was the coach when Russian won the gold in 2002 and 2003.

velimiiro
12-17-2004, 12:33 PM
I haven't seen him play, but i've heard Alexei Emelin plays a style similar to Kasparitis..

Can't wait to see Ovechkin though :)

TORRUS
12-17-2004, 12:34 PM
Can't wait to see Mike Richards take Ovechkin into the boards!

Not likely :shakehead

Kaizer
12-17-2004, 12:42 PM
Can't wait to see Mike Richards take Ovechkin into the boards!
It will happen just after Parshin destroys Phanuef :)

Riggs
12-17-2004, 12:47 PM
It will happen just after Parshin destroys Phanuef :)

That would be something to see.

5'9" 137lbs. vs. 6'3" 217lbs.

MOGiLNY
12-17-2004, 01:17 PM
It will happen just after Parshin destroys Phanuef :)

best post ever! :yo:

Chimaera
12-17-2004, 01:21 PM
Nice to see Yunkov on the roster.


I assume he'll be on his typical line again?


Is it a surprise that he made it or what?

I didn't know this guy was in the upper crop of forwards.

Vic Rattlehead
12-17-2004, 01:21 PM
Who is Mike Richards? :dunno:
A highly touted Flyers prospect who will play for Canada at the WJC's this year for Canada.

Foppa_Rules
12-17-2004, 01:26 PM
Ovechkin will be great.

MOGiLNY
12-17-2004, 01:27 PM
Call me crazy, but I think for the first time in about 20 years team Russia has a pretty solid goaltending tandem. The last 2 gold medals Russia had to win with pretty much an empty net, and as a Russia fan, I'm extremely happy to finally have some confidence in my team's goaltending.

Khudobin and Kuznetsov were excellent at the ADT challenge (or at least in the games that I saw) and Khudobin went on and got a shutout or two in the SuperLeague.

Radulov on the other hand i don't know what the hype is all about. I really didn't see much in him during the ADT challenge, and wouldn't be surprised if he tanks it at the WJC. The fact that I read about his selfish attitude doesn't help the cause neither. Shirokov I thought was an excellent player.. really impressed me, but attitude is a problem with him as well I believe. He rubbed it in to the opposing team and the fans after scoring goals, and I really don't like that.

Slick Nick
12-17-2004, 01:39 PM
Could someone comment a little about Salnikov and Galimov? please.

Strange Glazachev didn't make it :dunno:

Skrymir
12-17-2004, 01:57 PM
As a sens fan I'm a little disapointed Lyamin didn't make the squad, but I'm not entirely surprised either.

salostyle
12-17-2004, 02:10 PM
Edmonton second rounder in 04 Roman Tesliuk didn't make the cut on D?

Any insights?

slats432
12-17-2004, 02:16 PM
Radulov on the other hand i don't know what the hype is all about. I really didn't see much in him during the ADT challenge,
Against Quebec he was the best player on the ice.

He didn't play the other 4 games.

wilka91*
12-17-2004, 02:20 PM
A highly touted Flyers prospect who will play for Canada at the WJC's this year for Canada.

Hey listen dude, I'm gonna tell you a secret that reveals the truth about all the things that ever existed in the Universe : if I dunno who dat ******' Canadian is, he f***ing sucks, alright dude? He gowna get smashed boy Pa'shin!

:joker:

RoyIsALegend*
12-17-2004, 02:23 PM
Evegeny Malkin, Alexander Ovechkin, Roman Voloshenko, Alexandr Radulov, Denis Parshin, Enver Lisin, Grigory Shafigulin... wow, I'm so excited to see this offensive talent on display.

I'm particularly excited about Parshin... mighty midget that the Avs selected this past June. Apparently he has all-world stick-handling and creativity abilities.

crossxcheck
12-17-2004, 02:30 PM
Radulov on the other hand i don't know what the hype is all about. I really didn't see much in him during the ADT challenge, and wouldn't be surprised if he tanks it at the WJC. The fact that I read about his selfish attitude doesn't help the cause neither.

I can't speculate as to wether or not radulov tanks at the WJC's, but if he is such a selfish player, then why does he have 27 assists compared to only 19 goals this year in the Q? Sure, I realize that stats aren't the end-all-beat-all, but from reports I've heard his "selfishness" reputation is myth.

I did see him myself at a preds rookie camp and he didn't really seem selfish with puck, but he was VERY eager to score. From what I saw, his passing skills were very good and his goal scoring insinct is amazing.

417
12-17-2004, 02:59 PM
I can't speculate as to wether or not radulov tanks at the WJC's, but if he is such a selfish player, then why does he have 27 assists compared to only 19 goals this year in the Q? Sure, I realize that stats aren't the end-all-beat-all, but from reports I've heard his "selfishness" reputation is myth.

I did see him myself at a preds rookie camp and he didn't really seem selfish with puck, but he was VERY eager to score. From what I saw, his passing skills were very good and his goal scoring insinct is amazing.

Maybe what he meant was that Radulov is a selfish player, not in terms of sharing the puck, but maybe putting himself before the team, like maybe taking it easy during practices, or not helping out defensively, I don't claim to know, but maybe that's what he meant, he's got a selfish attitude... :dunno:

x Goodwill x
12-17-2004, 03:04 PM
Sometimes when a player has a reputation of being a sniper his passing skills get overlooked. I think Radulov has good passing skills his playmaking ability is very underrated. For example I always thought Moginly was a great sniper and wasn't a great playmaker. Since I saw him a lot after he signed with the Leafs I have to admit he is one of the best playmaking wingers. His scoring goals ability always outshadowed his ability of being a great playermaker. those were my 2 cents.

crossxcheck
12-17-2004, 03:06 PM
Maybe what he meant was that Radulov is a selfish player, not in terms of sharing the puck, but maybe putting himself before the team, like maybe taking it easy during practices, or not helping out defensively, I don't claim to know, but maybe that's what he meant, he's got a selfish attitude... :dunno:

Perhaps maybe he puts himself before the team (althought I'd think that could be coached out), but I'm quite certain that he doesn't "take it easy" during practice.

Kaizer
12-17-2004, 03:16 PM
Could someone comment a little about Salnikov and Galimov? please.
Strange Glazachev didn't make it :dunno:
Well, I've seen Galimov in some last games. He plays with Shafigulin and Shvidky so it means that they have chemistry. I think that Galimov has good performance from what I've seen. Also Kari Heikelya (sp?) - Head coach of Lokomotiv - is very high on Shafigluin and Galimov.

http://ak-bars.ru/video/download.php?s=15&m=25&i=25_21&id=1138&c=157 There is goal from Galimov against Ak Bars (Fred Brathwaite was in the net) after good wrist shot. (#15 is Shafigulin)

417
12-17-2004, 03:26 PM
Perhaps maybe he puts himself before the team (althought I'd think that could be coached out), but I'm quite certain that he doesn't "take it easy" during practice.

I don't claim to know if he takes it easy in practice, I was just alluding to the fact that, that's what he might of meant

Steadfast
12-17-2004, 03:30 PM
Hey listen dude, I'm gonna tell you a secret that reveals the truth about all the things that ever existed in the Universe : if I dunno who dat ******' Canadian is, he f***ing sucks, alright dude? He gowna get smashed boy Pa'shin!

:joker:

You barely know who any prospect is though.

Slick Nick
12-17-2004, 04:00 PM
Well, I've seen Galimov in some last games. He plays with Shafigulin and Shvidky so it means that they have chemistry. I think that Galimov has good performance from what I've seen. Also Kari Heikelya (sp?) - Head coach of Lokomotiv - is very high on Shafigluin and Galimov.

http://ak-bars.ru/video/download.php?s=15&m=25&i=25_21&id=1138&c=157 There is goal from Galimov against Ak Bars (Fred Brathwaite was in the net) after good wrist shot. (#15 is Shafigulin)

Thanks Kaizer

Shafigulin is a player I like, but to be franc it's the first time I hear about Salnikov and Galimov. Ah well, I have full confidence in Gersonsky, he had succes everywhere he coached.

I'm not as sure about the goalies.. Khudobin was lucky on sevral occasions at the ADT challange. Let's assume that he'll have better defensive covrage this time...

Reilly311
12-17-2004, 04:05 PM
If they put Radulov on the line with Malkin and Ovechkin he'll probably have a bad tournament points wise.

crossxcheck
12-17-2004, 04:05 PM
I don't claim to know if he takes it easy in practice, I was just alluding to the fact that, that's what he might of meant

oh, I know.

wilka91*
12-17-2004, 04:39 PM
You barely know who any prospect is though.

Dude, you like totally owned me man. Owned like when you get served. Yeah, man I got served, damn!

But it's true, I don't waste my time either talking or learning useless stuff about some 16-year old dudes who are probably total jerks and will never finish school. :teach:

chicpea*
12-17-2004, 04:51 PM
...

Thanks for the roster, Kaizer.

Anyone care to speculate on lines and D pairings? Where will Yunkov play and is Khudobin still presumed a guaranteed starter?

Slay
12-17-2004, 06:12 PM
No, it's not the same coach. Ishmatov was the coach when Russian won the gold in 2002 and 2003.

2002 Pluschev 2003 Ishmatov 2004 Ishmatov 2005 Gersonsky (was one of the assistents in 2003) and the assistent is Bragin who was the head coach at the WJC U18 2004 and knows players of 1986 very well.

TORRUS
12-17-2004, 09:01 PM
2002 Pluschev 2003 Ishmatov 2004 Ishmatov 2005 Gersonsky (was one of the assistents in 2003) and the assistent is Bragin who was the head coach at the WJC U18 2004 and knows players of 1986 very well.

Yes, you're right, my mistake...

TORRUS
12-17-2004, 09:03 PM
If they put Radulov on the line with Malkin and Ovechkin he'll probably have a bad tournament points wise.

Radulov is on the line with Yunkov and Voloshenko

soilwork2004
12-17-2004, 11:39 PM
"Dude, you like totally owned me man. Owned like when you get served. Yeah, man I got served, damn!

But it's true, I don't waste my time either talking or learning useless stuff about some 16-year old dudes who are probably total jerks and will never finish school."

We are talking about Mike Richards here and not Alexander "I can't count past 30" Ovechkin. Mark my words! Richards will crush Ovechkin within the opening minutes of the Canada-Russia game to set the tone for Canada.

Slick Nick
12-18-2004, 12:55 AM
"Dude, you like totally owned me man. Owned like when you get served. Yeah, man I got served, damn!

But it's true, I don't waste my time either talking or learning useless stuff about some 16-year old dudes who are probably total jerks and will never finish school."

We are talking about Mike Richards here and not Alexander "I can't count past 30" Ovechkin. Mark my words! Richards will crush Ovechkin within the opening minutes of the Canada-Russia game to set the tone for Canada.

I think there's more chances Russians slam Crosby into the boards, than Canadians slam Mr. Ovechkin. :p:

Boomhower
12-18-2004, 01:04 AM
On a serious note, did Russia name any defensive/checking forwards?

Looks like a lot of skill guys upfront...

Jacob
12-18-2004, 01:45 AM
Any idea on what the lines will look like?

barrytrotzsneck
12-18-2004, 03:29 AM
On a serious note, did Russia name any defensive/checking forwards?

Looks like a lot of skill guys upfront...

Shafigulin is more defensively oriented, I believe.

clefty
12-18-2004, 05:25 AM
Who do you think starts? Khudobin or Kuznetsov?

TORRUS
12-18-2004, 05:47 AM
Who do you think starts? Khudobin or Kuznetsov?

Khudobin is #1. I think he is going to be great this tournament and I'm not worried about this years goaltending at all!

LadyByngJeanRatelle
12-18-2004, 10:52 AM
Glazachev...O how I wanted you on this team. :cry:

Kaizer
12-18-2004, 12:13 PM
On a serious note, did Russia name any defensive/checking forwards?
Looks like a lot of skill guys upfront...
Malkin and Ovechkin both play good two-way game. Pestunov is nice two-way center. Than Nikulin has good mix of defensive and offensive skills, while Shafigulin and Yun'kov could be named as defensive specialists.

MOGiLNY
12-18-2004, 12:18 PM
Ovechkin and Malkin are going to be on the same line, right? Any idea who the 3rd forward will be?

JMHO, but I think it should be a little guy like Parshin. Ovechkin and Malkin are both big guys and this line doesn't need any more size while Parshin adds some excellent skill to complement Ovechkin's and Malkin's playmaking..

Whatever the case, I can't wait to see the Ovechkin-Malkin line in action! The 2 top draft picks at last year's draft, and 2 of the 3 best prospects in the world playing on the same line.. you've gotta love that. I hope they kick serious arse and show the world that you just can't ***** around with Russia.

Kaizer
12-18-2004, 12:19 PM
Any idea on what the lines will look like?
Now, It seems for me like:

Lisin - Pestunov - Ovechkin
Parshin - Malkin - Nikulin
Voloshenko - Yun'kov - Radulov
Galimov - Shafigulin - Shirokov

On D I can name only one pair for sure: Panin - Vorobiev
Don't know about others but like it was on last exhibition game:
Rylov - Misharin
Emelin - Ezhov
Megalinsky - Belov

Khudobin
Kuznetcov

MOGiLNY
12-18-2004, 12:29 PM
How good are Pestunov and Nikulin?

leafaholix*
12-18-2004, 12:31 PM
Looking forward to seeing Toronto's draft pick on Russian top pairing.

:D

Kaizer
12-18-2004, 12:36 PM
How good are Pestunov and Nikulin?

About Nikulin http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=114069&highlight=Nikulin

MOGiLNY
12-18-2004, 12:41 PM
Thanks, Kaizer! RussianProspects said pretty much the same as you about Nikulin.. Sounds like his only weaknesses are softness and skating..

I don't understand though, if Nikulin plays centre in CSKA, why is he a winger on team Russia? I like the decision of spreading out the offense by putting Malkin and Ovechkin on separate lines, but maybe Nikulin could be the #1 centre then? Or is Pestunov better?

leafaholix*
12-18-2004, 12:46 PM
Anyone know why Panin went undrafted?

Is he a guy that may have a future in North America?

Kaizer
12-18-2004, 12:53 PM
Thanks, Kaizer! RussianProspects said pretty much the same as you about Nikulin.. Sounds like his only weaknesses are softness and skating..

I don't understand though, if Nikulin plays centre in CSKA, why is he a winger on team Russia? I like the decision of spreading out the offense by putting Malkin and Ovechkin on separate lines, but maybe Nikulin could be the #1 centre then? Or is Pestunov better?

Malkin is C. Pestunov has experience of 3 WJC and he is C too. Youn'kov is C between Radulov and Voloshenko. Niukulin can play C at line with Shafigulin on the wing, but there is Galimov so Shafigulin will play at C, I think. Nikulin is good enough to be at WJC but all C positions are locked for another kids.

Kaizer
12-18-2004, 12:57 PM
Anyone know why Panin went undrafted?

Is he a guy that may have a future in North America?
I think, It is about end of IIHF - NHL agreement. Teams prefer to stay away and wait. I don't understand why Megalinsky went undrafted: big, rock solid D, checks and hits everything is near.

leafaholix*
12-18-2004, 12:59 PM
I think, It is about end of IIHF - NHL agreement. Teams prefer to stay away and wait. I don't understand why Megalinsky went undrafted: big, rock solid D, checks and hits everything is near.
Of the Russian defensemen named to the team, who would you say has the bust complete package of offense/defense?

Foppa_Rules
12-18-2004, 01:05 PM
Alexander "I can't count past 30" Ovechkin. Mark my words! Richards will crush Ovechkin within the opening minutes of the Canada-Russia game to set the tone for Canada.


:loony:

Kaizer
12-18-2004, 01:05 PM
My favorite Yakov Rylov. This kid came out of nowhere at the begin of this year (for me) and already has locked spot at D of RSL leader and team with lowest GA - Dynamo.
He is small guy but he plays big. I like him a lot. Yakov plays in all situations and looks very consistent even in PP and SH. I like his style of physical play. There is no great open ice hits in his game but he plays very hard. I can assume (from what I’ve seen) that Yakov is one of the best slot cleaners among young D's in RSL.

I just repeat myself from Russian Board at HF :)

Foppa_Rules
12-18-2004, 01:09 PM
Does he play for Dynamo or Dynamo-2?

Kaizer
12-18-2004, 01:16 PM
Does he play for Dynamo or Dynamo-2?
Dynamo

clefty
12-18-2004, 05:37 PM
Khudobin is #1. I think he is going to be great this tournament and I'm not worried about this years goaltending at all!
Nice. I like Khudobin.