CFL or NFL, whats your fav?

I.am.ca
11-20-2004, 12:37 AM
I've been watching both for 10+ years and i gotta say CFL has been the more exciting league to watch every year. Sure the Superbowl has all the glitz and glamour but the Grey Cup always has this intensity to it that just cannot be described. But i still like the NFL and i do watch it but i find it a lil boring every year i don't know why.

So whats your favourite league and why?

leafaholix*
11-20-2004, 12:40 AM
Entertainment: CFL
Talent level: NFL

Personally, I don't care for the NFL unless I have money on a game or fantasy football, but I'll watch on a Sunday night when there's nothing on if there's a couple offensive teams.

Otherwise, the CFL is a lot more entertaining. I'll watch a Winnipeg/Hamilton game just because of the entertainment, even though I don't care for either team. One other thing that's nice is the players are cool and accessable.

DynamoAO
11-20-2004, 01:07 AM
NFL. No. Doubt.

golfmade
11-20-2004, 03:10 AM
Nfl.

Patrick
11-20-2004, 05:13 AM
I rather watch Divison 3 NCAA than the CFL.

Kane
11-20-2004, 07:20 AM
NFL for sure. Although I do really like the CFL now.

The Rage
11-20-2004, 09:16 AM
CFL usually has close big games, and teams have more ability to come back from huge defecits. However, the NFL is a more intense game because every yard and every point is so important. Really, it's kind of like the difference between current NHL hockey and 80s NHL hockey, except the NFL has alot more talent. I like the CFL better just because I have a hometwon team and can go to the games, and it's CANADIAN!

Shane
11-20-2004, 09:19 AM
I prefer CFL myself.

canuck293
11-20-2004, 10:04 AM
NFL for me!

Roughneck
11-20-2004, 10:15 AM
CFL.

I've got no loyalties to the NFL. I have teams I cheer for, but I'm never into it like hardcore fans. To me, the biggest game fo the year is the Labour Day Classic, Stamps vs. Eskies. You can watch your Dallas vs. Washington or Michigan vs. Ohio State all you want, its just another game to me.

CFL all the way!

Dr Love
11-20-2004, 11:59 AM
Why do we have threads like this every other week?

1LS9
11-20-2004, 12:00 PM
I rather watch Divison 3 NCAA than the CFL.

lol

Yea, put me on the NFL side, too.

Fire Sather
11-20-2004, 12:58 PM
Really dont get many CFL games down here... so I cant fairly grade.

Astaroth
11-20-2004, 01:24 PM
Can't stand watching the CFL on tv, I go to Alouettes' games because its a a social thing in mtl nowadays but the level of mediocrity compared to the NFL is just painful for me.

Tuggy
11-20-2004, 01:26 PM
Nfl
Nfl
Nfl

MontrealCruiser_83*
11-20-2004, 01:35 PM
NFL. The CFL isn't on the same level.

xtra
11-20-2004, 03:01 PM
CFL because the nfl save for a few teams is absolutely boring. Run Run 2 yard pass. Repeat 100 times.

Tucker316*
11-20-2004, 03:23 PM
The CFL may be more exciting, but really what difference does that make? You're not watching the best talent available on the field. The NFL is where the talent is..the players in the cfl want to be in the nfl. Dont kid yourselves and place the cfl in the same league as the nfl. Sure the grey cup may be having really tight games as compared to the superbowl, but in the end, the super bowl is what makes you the absolute best in the sport...not the grey cup.
It's like settling for any other league over the NHL. The AHL is fine right now, maybe the russian super league, but all these players want into the NHL.
So an exciting game in a second tier league really means not that much on the big scope of things.

Danny
11-20-2004, 03:24 PM
NFL.

The Sports Gorilla
11-20-2004, 04:38 PM
The NFL, but I'm a big CFL fan. Plus I can go to games and have a team to cheer for. I really wish they had better TV coverage though.

Go Lions!!

All you football fans in the US should check out the Grey Cup on Sunday (6pm EST, I think it's on YES and NESN). You should be able to catch some of the game after the afternoon games and before sunday night football.

Leopold Stotch
11-20-2004, 04:51 PM
The CFL may be more exciting, but really what difference does that make? You're not watching the best talent available on the field. The NFL is where the talent is..the players in the cfl want to be in the nfl. Dont kid yourselves and place the cfl in the same league as the nfl. Sure the grey cup may be having really tight games as compared to the superbowl, but in the end, the super bowl is what makes you the absolute best in the sport...not the grey cup.
It's like settling for any other league over the NHL. The AHL is fine right now, maybe the russian super league, but all these players want into the NHL.
So an exciting game in a second tier league really means not that much on the big scope of things.

If the CFL offered the same money the NFL did, everybody would want to play in the CFL. There's a reason George Reed played in the CFL his whole career.

Patrick
11-20-2004, 05:13 PM
If the CFL offered the same money the NFL did, everybody would want to play in the CFL. There's a reason George Reed played in the CFL his whole career.

I seriously doubt it. First of all the CFL would need to expand rosters or teams, second of all I can't see players choosing Edmonton and Ottawa over New York, Chicago, Boston for endorsements and San Diego, Miami, Tampa Bay for the city itself.

If the CFL offered the same money as the NFL some players might choose Canada but most kids grow up dreaming of being Cowboys or Packers, not Stampeders.

Kravitch
11-20-2004, 05:25 PM
NFL.

I tried to be a bigger CFL fan, I really did. But I just can't. I'm the type of person who cheers for the highest level in sports, I can't cheer for NFL rejects. I want to be a CFL fan, but I don't even care that my Lions are in the Grey Cup this year.

Not to mention there are only 9 teams. Not a whole lot of competition, if your team doesn't win the Grey Cup this year, wait 2 years.

Dr Love
11-20-2004, 05:41 PM
If the CFL offered the same money the NFL did, everybody would want to play in the CFL. There's a reason George Reed played in the CFL his whole career.
Everybody? Hardly. The only person in the NFL that I can say with certainy that would want to be in the CFL if the money is the same is Mike Martz. Sure, there would be a good number of players who might, but players aren't suddenly going to go to the CFL because they offer the same amount of money. But to say that everybody would go to the CFL is just absurd. I'm sure guys like Ahman Green and Priest Holmes would love to run the ball less. They'd be dying to play 3 downs. And I bet guys who play for the Chargers would just love to move to Edmonton.

Leopold Stotch
11-20-2004, 06:05 PM
Everybody? Hardly. The only person in the NFL that I can say with certainy that would want to be in the CFL if the money is the same is Mike Martz. Sure, there would be a good number of players who might, but players aren't suddenly going to go to the CFL because they offer the same amount of money. But to say that everybody would go to the CFL is just absurd. I'm sure guys like Ahman Green and Priest Holmes would love to run the ball less. They'd be dying to play 3 downs. And I bet guys who play for the Chargers would just love to move to Edmonton.

You'd be surprised what money will make people do. If the NFL offered the same money, then yeah, I can easily see the players staying. But if it was the CFL that offered the multi-million dollar contracts, which would then lead to endorsements, and hell, even if the NFL offered only half of their salaries(which is alot more than the CFL), players would flock to the CFL. Players go where the money is better.

But that's something I hate about today's players. Way back when, players didn't play for money, and planned to stay with a team their whole career. Hell, back in the day, you only got traded because you weren't good enough, not because you demanded to or that team couldn't pay you. Ask Lanny McDonald, who took it as an outright insult when Toronto traded him, regardless of where it was, because he thought it was a message that he wasn't good enough. Today you get players everywhere demanding trades, and then you get your Terrell Owens' who gets his trade, but then doesn't want to play for that team, so he goes and demands another trade. But that's another story.


As for my preference, it's obviously the CFL, though the NFL is alot closer now. I could care less about talent, because IMO, you can't really tell the difference when you're watching a game, and you're going to see those huge plays in either league. The rules of the CFL is what sells it for me, as well as how these guys suck it up and overcome the bad things about CFL football. I'd like to see NFLers playing 3 down football on a wider and longer field in -20C on a frozen grass field, and only getting paid $50,000 a year. To steal a quote for Rick Reilly, Keyshawn Johnson would sue.

Dr Love
11-20-2004, 06:12 PM
You'd be surprised what money will make people do. If the NFL offered the same money, then yeah, I can easily see the players staying. But if it was the CFL that offered the multi-million dollar contracts, which would then lead to endorsements, and hell, even if the NFL offered only half of their salaries(which is alot more than the CFL), players would flock to the CFL. Players go where the money is better.Yup, money will do a lot of things, but if it's the same money that NFL teams are offering, "everybody" won't be going to the NFL.

But that's something I hate about today's players. Way back when, players didn't play for money, and planned to stay with a team their whole career. Hell, back in the day, you only got traded because you weren't good enough, not because you demanded to or that team couldn't pay you. Ask Lanny McDonald, who took it as an outright insult when Toronto traded him, regardless of where it was, because he thought it was a message that he wasn't good enough.Really? Because players left the NHL for the WHA because of the money. Derek Sanderson the most infamous, Bernie Parent, Gordie Howe, Bobby Hull being the big names. Why did 8 members of the White Sox throw the WS? Because they didn't feel they were getting paid enough (and the probably weren't) and wanted some more money. Players have always gone to where the money is, it's just that today there aren't alternative leagues offering the same amount of money so you don't see that kind of stuff anymore.

Today you get players everywhere demanding trades, and then you get your Terrell Owens' who gets his trade, but then doesn't want to play for that team, so he goes and demands another trade. But that's another story.Yes it is, because he didn't refuse to go to Baltimore because of the money.

As for my preference, it's obviously the CFL, though the NFL is alot closer now. I could care less about talent, because IMO, you can't really tell the difference when you're watching a game, and you're going to see those huge plays in either league. The rules of the CFL is what sells it for me, as well as how these guys suck it up and overcome the bad things about CFL football. I'd like to see NFLers playing 3 down football on a wider and longer field in -20C on a frozen grass field, and only getting paid $50,000 a year. To steal a quote for Rick Reilly, Keyshawn Johnson would sue.
And I'd like to see them all play for pennies compared to what they make and in the snow and rain every week, but that ain't happening.

Kirk Pedersen
11-20-2004, 06:19 PM
While the NFL's talent level is higher, I just don't have any attachment to any of the teams. I prefer watching the CFL because there's a team here to cheer for and I find it more exciting.

incawg
11-20-2004, 07:48 PM
I prefer the NFL but the CFL can be just as entertaining (when the leos are winning anyway). Oh yah, and NFL fantasy football = ownage.

mcphee
11-20-2004, 08:12 PM
It's like comparing the Mom and Pop corner store at the corner to Microsoft. I'll spend a few dollars extra to be loyal to the little guy though Microsoft has all the best stuff and is conveniently packaged. I love spending a Sunday rooting on my couch watching the NFL but you have to love the CFL where players are there because they can eke out a living playing a sport they love, while a select few will get noticed and make big money down south. You can't compare really, the NFL has the best athletes and the biggest sports machine in the world while the CFL is a community based league. It should be noted though that being a star in the NFL doesn't guarantee success in the CFL. You will find a lot more Canadian kids trying their luck down south before the CFL, esp. from Quebec where they're churning out players at a high rate lately.

chicpea*
11-21-2004, 03:33 AM
It's like comparing the Mom and Pop corner store at the corner to Microsoft. I'll spend a few dollars extra to be loyal to the little guy though Microsoft has all the best stuff and is conveniently packaged. I love spending a Sunday rooting on my couch watching the NFL but you have to love the CFL where players are there because they can eke out a living playing a sport they love, while a select few will get noticed and make big money down south. You can't compare really, the NFL has the best athletes and the biggest sports machine in the world while the CFL is a community based league. It should be noted though that being a star in the NFL doesn't guarantee success in the CFL. You will find a lot more Canadian kids trying their luck down south before the CFL, esp. from Quebec where they're churning out players at a high rate lately.


That's why your posts are great. Perspective.


plus they have the wisdom inherent in the purchaser of fine french-canadian hosiery.

mcphee
11-21-2004, 07:13 AM
That's why your posts are great. Perspective.


plus they have the wisdom inherent in the purchaser of fine french-canadian hosiery.
Damnit, that hosiery prevents hamstring pulls. If it feels good too, what's the harm ?

Big McLargehuge
11-21-2004, 08:20 AM
I rather watch Divison 3 NCAA than the CFL.

Easily.

Watching the NFL first and then watching the CFL...it's painful.

Tricolore#20
11-21-2004, 11:50 AM
I feel more emotionally involved with the CFL playoffs, because my hometown team is competing. But other than that, there are several things about the CFL that bug me.

--> The ads on the field. I think this is total sacrilege. At Commonwealth Stadium, apparently during the playoffs,the ads freeze up and make the field like a skating rink. This is a farce. Plus, it looks terrible on TV. I understand the CFL needs to capitalize on as many sponsors as they can get, but there has got to be other ways to do it.
--> I hate how half of the CFL stadiums are simply stands on two sides. I realize that these teams don't have budgets (or the population, in some areas) to create fully enclosed stadiums, but it really does look amateur compared to any form of collegiate football.
--> Way too many games. What's the point of having so many games, when there are so few teams?

I also think at times that the CFL is fooling themselves. I keep hearing that the CFL is doing a great job at marketing themselves at younger crowds. I'm 21, and of my friends, I'm probably the most enthusiastic CFL fan, and even I'm not that enthusiastic. Most of my friends prefer the NFL over the CFL, having Superbowl parties and such. I'll probably be the only one of my friends watching the Grey Cup today. Whenever I go to Eskimo games, I see some people my age, but the majority are older people, who have a deeper connection with the Eskimo teams of the early 80s. Once these people are gone, I wonder whether the Eskimos will garner as much support.

Midnight Meat Train
11-21-2004, 12:44 PM
there have been some CFL games on here in Pittsburgh lately and it is very poorly presented...it almost seems like you are watching a high school game with only two cameras in the entire stadium, that is a big turn off and makes it pretty much impossible to watch

Seachd
11-21-2004, 01:24 PM
The CFL may be more exciting, but really what difference does that make? You're not watching the best talent available on the field. The NFL is where the talent is..the players in the cfl want to be in the nfl.

But what good does having all the talent in one place do if it's not exciting?

The same reason why a lot of hockey fans like watching CHL/AHL over the NHL.

Coach JP
11-21-2004, 02:31 PM
NFL, but I like CFL too.

The caliber is so different but the better games to watch in Television is on NCAA.

All of the 3 live is so great.

The Sports Gorilla
11-21-2004, 02:34 PM
If you watch the CFL thinking it's crap, you will percieve it as crap.

If you watch it with an open mind, and just enjoy the sport, it's a fun game to watch.

The biggest thing I like about the CFL over the NFL is the 20 second play clock. Teams easily get 15-20 more plays per game, which just gives more entertainment for the fans. It also makes the last 2 minutes VERY exciting, as a team is basically never out of the game. In a lot of games in the NFL, the last 2 minutes are just procedure.

Patrick
11-21-2004, 02:45 PM
If you watch the CFL thinking it's crap, you will percieve it as crap.

If you watch it with an open mind, and just enjoy the sport, it's a fun game to watch.



Not always, when Sunshine network (a cable network in Florida) started showing CFL games I thought it would be great because more football the better, but after a few broadcasts I stuck to watching NCAA,NFL and highschool.

The Sports Gorilla
11-21-2004, 02:53 PM
Not always, when Sunshine network (a cable network in Florida) started showing CFL games I thought it would be great because more football the better, but after a few broadcasts I stuck to watching NCAA,NFL and highschool.

When was that?

FlyersGuy69
11-21-2004, 02:55 PM
NFL easily!

nothings even close...

Patrick
11-21-2004, 03:01 PM
When was that?

2002

Tucker316*
11-21-2004, 03:17 PM
One thing I will give the CFL over the NFL though is it's actually a harder game. No pansy fair catch rule, less downs, bigger field..And to watch Grey Cup games in all that snow is ****ing amazing! The Superbowl is nothing but commercialized **** right now. Still fun to watch, but it makes you wanna puke at the same time too. And they never play in cold weather digs. Always the sun belt. So that sucks too.
Football, when I think of winter time, needs to be played up north. That's what makes the Grey Cup so fun.

Roughneck
11-22-2004, 03:49 PM
^^^

We don't have the fair catch, but wehave the 'no-yards' rule, which is pretty much the same thing.



I remember the 'Radically Canadian' campaign with the "Our balls are bigger" shirts. They need to start that back up in force again.

Leopold Stotch
11-22-2004, 03:53 PM
^^^

We don't have the fair catch, but wehave the 'no-yards' rule, which is pretty much the same thing.



I remember the 'Radically Canadian' campaign with the "Our balls are bigger" shirts. They need to start that back up in force again.


No yards >>>> fair catch. Fair catch leaves you stranded where you catch the ball, no yards adds five from where you get brought down, which means you could catch the ball at your 20, they get flagged with no yards, and you could run down to their 20, and unless I'm mistaken, you get the ball at the 15. Also, if they decide to try and stick you, it's a 15 yarder.

Go Flames Go*
11-24-2004, 08:16 PM
I love the NFL its my fave league, and football is my fave sport. I do however follow CFL passionatly also, since we have a team here the Stamps, and thats as close to the NFL we will ever get.

Rams will in the superbowl :)

flamesfan01800
11-24-2004, 08:49 PM
Not always, when Sunshine network (a cable network in Florida) started showing CFL games I thought it would be great because more football the better, but after a few broadcasts I stuck to watching NCAA,NFL and highschool.

Do they really broadcast a high school football teams season

Patrick
11-24-2004, 09:41 PM
Do they really broadcast a high school football teams season

In Florida, highschool football is like the CHL in Canada. In some places the town shuts down on a friday night because everybody is at the game.

DBC Tweeker
11-24-2004, 09:51 PM
Nfl.