Where is Kadeykin?

I saw he was reassigned, but where?

I saw he was reassigned, but where?

ATLRanger, if we should be so lucky......he's in the ECHL if Im not mistaken.

Kadeykin isn't in the ECHL, he isn't in the UHL either. I hope he didn't take a year off....that would be the worst thing possible.

You don't really see Russian born players being developed down in the lower minor pro teams so maybe he went home to russua or something.

How is that the devil's organization, nor any of their fans have a clue as to what happened to him. It is like he just dropped off the face of the earth. He is not listed on any transactions for either the devils or the rats. Very strange! There were a number of devil fans comparing this guy to Fedor Tyjutin. Personally I just couldn't see it. So I was really looking forward to see how he would do. Now he's disappeared. fedor ready for a regular role on the rangers, so I expected that your guy would at least make the rats if he was suppose to be as good Fedor.

How is that the devil's organization, nor any of their fans have a clue as to what happened to him. It is like he just dropped off the face of the earth. He is not listed on any transactions for either the devils or the rats. Very strange! There were a number of devil fans comparing this guy to Fedor Tyjutin. Personally I just couldn't see it. So I was really looking forward to see how he would do. Now he's disappeared. fedor ready for a regular role on the rangers, so I expected that your guy would at least make the rats if he was suppose to be as good Fedor.


Hmm..Did you come to here to gloat? Seriously, go away. You really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to developing players in a Devil/Rag debate. Look at the bright side, it's almost Nov and the Rags are still tied for first.

How is that the devil's organization, nor any of their fans have a clue as to what happened to him. It is like he just dropped off the face of the earth. He is not listed on any transactions for either the devils or the rats. Very strange! There were a number of devil fans comparing this guy to Fedor Tyjutin. Personally I just couldn't see it. So I was really looking forward to see how he would do. Now he's disappeared. fedor ready for a regular role on the rangers, so I expected that your guy would at least make the rats if he was suppose to be as good Fedor.
Nobody ever compared his offensive games to Tyutins....if they did they are clueless homers. Kadeikin was compared to Volchenkov quite often....mostly by me. Thats what I seen out of him first year junior.

Don't pay attention to this guy, he's obsessed with the Devils and constatnly getting deleted by NJ.com, where he does most of is trolling. He nows nothing about hockey, just hates the Devils. :shakehead

How is that the devil's organization, nor any of their fans have a clue as to what happened to him. It is like he just dropped off the face of the earth. He is not listed on any transactions for either the devils or the rats. Very strange! There were a number of devil fans comparing this guy to Fedor Tyjutin. Personally I just couldn't see it. So I was really looking forward to see how he would do. Now he's disappeared. fedor ready for a regular role on the rangers, so I expected that your guy would at least make the rats if he was suppose to be as good Fedor.

How is it that some third or fourth tier prospect gets attention from some Rangers fan? Oh yeah. Who cares?

Fedor Tyjutin is overrated. The only reason he's considered good is because he's one of the last developing Rangers prospects left. Sort of like Donier Navarro of the Yankees or Matt Stajan of the Leafs.

Check spartak moscow. He should be on the roster there as of Nov 15

Albany's webpage has him on the roster listed as an "inactive player". Is he parcticing with the team, or did he fail to report?

How is it that some third or fourth tier prospect gets attention from some Rangers fan? Oh yeah. Who cares?

Fedor Tyjutin is overrated. The only reason he's considered good is because he's one of the last developing Rangers prospects left. Sort of like Donier Navarro of the Yankees or Matt Stajan of the Leafs.
So you think Alex Steen isn't developing for the leafs? That's interesting :D

Check spartak moscow. He should be on the roster there as of Nov 15

I'll pull it and check it out. Surprised though at how many fans of the devils didn't have a clue as to where one of their top rated prospects went. Is that a top tier Russian team or what? Appreicate the info.

How is it that some third or fourth tier prospect gets attention from some Rangers fan? Oh yeah. Who cares?

Fedor Tyjutin is overrated. The only reason he's considered good is because he's one of the last developing Rangers prospects left. Sort of like Donier Navarro of the Yankees or Matt Stajan of the Leafs.

And you base your expert opinion on what? Funny how you are in the minority on that subject. Not too often you see a 20 year old these days stepping into the NHL no matter how bad the team is. I guess it is just the lower standard of NHL play these last few years that allowed him to make the jump.

I'll pull it and check it out. Surprised though at how many fans of the devils didn't have a clue as to where one of their top rated prospects went. Is that a top tier Russian team or what? Appreicate the info.

your question was answered; your jabs at the devils and devils fans are completely uncalled for.

here's the link for the spartak roster, check it again in the middle of november as tbr suggests.

http://www.metallurg.ru/base/team.php?idtournament=RU05R&date=2004-10-25&idteam=SPR

your question was answered; your jabs at the devils and devils fans are completely uncalled for.

here's the link for the spartak roster, check it again in the middle of november as tbr suggests.

http://www.metallurg.ru/base/team.php?idtournament=RU05R&date=2004-10-25&idteam=SPR

Is it a situation like that with Kondratiev last year? I just find it very strange that everyone associated with the devils is so closed mouthed about it. It is not unusual for a 20 year old to get homesick. I know the Leafs were upset last year and I think the NYR's would be if Kondratiev went back to Russia again this year.
Thanks for the link though. How do you get the english version, it is in russian.

Not too often you see a 20 year old these days stepping into the NHL no matter how bad the team is.

Good point. There can't be more than a handful of under 20s in the NHL. Oh wait. Yeah there can. Maybe four or five handfuls.

So you think Alex Steen isn't developing for the leafs? That's interesting :D

Find the word "only" in there and I'll give you a prize.

And you base your expert opinion on what? Funny how you are in the minority on that subject. Not too often you see a 20 year old these days stepping into the NHL no matter how bad the team is. I guess it is just the lower standard of NHL play these last few years that allowed him to make the jump.
Nik Zherdev, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rick Nash, Nathan Hortan, Marc-Andre Fleury (I could go on) asll stepped in before they turned 20. I wouldn't turn this into a debate about developing players if I were you, because so far your arguements haven't been too good.

Nik Zherdev, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rick Nash, Nathan Hortan, Marc-Andre Fleury (I could go on) asll stepped in before they turned 20. I wouldn't turn this into a debate about developing players if I were you, because so far your arguements haven't been too good.

Pretty cool though. He can't really backtrack considering he already made a comment on the talent levels of teams being not mattering.

Beautiful. He should just go home now and save people the time.

Nik Zherdev, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rick Nash, Nathan Hortan, Marc-Andre Fleury (I could go on) asll stepped in before they turned 20. I wouldn't turn this into a debate about developing players if I were you, because so far your arguements haven't been too good.


And lets not forget Patrice Bergeron. Lets face it, look at the Rangers drafting position over the last several years and look at the Devils position. We have Gionta, Hale and Martin already helping the big team. Any Ranger draft picks that have actually helped recently...I can't think of one.

And lets not forget Patrice Bergeron. Lets face it, look at the Rangers drafting position over the last several years and look at the Devils position. We have Gionta, Hale and Martin already helping the big team. Any Ranger draft picks that have actually helped recently...I can't think of one.

Jamie Lundmark! No, wait, he actually hasn't helped all that much. Nevermind.

Jamie Lundmark! No, wait, he actually hasn't helped all that much. Nevermind.

Dan Blackburn! Uh, wait a minute there.....yeaaaahh I just did it to, oops!

Even as a Devils fan, I feel badly for Blackburn. Playing goal for the Rangers is like being a duck at a shooting gallery. The kid hurt himself lifting weights. Just a fluke injury. Didn't he play in 18 straight games before Sather traded for Mike Dunham? Then he hardly played the rest of that season. The Rangers sure know how to develop their prospects.

BTW, Kadeykin was seen with Oleg Tverdovsky watching a video by Paul Coffey on how to play defense. You may be able to find the film at an art house. Great translations of Coffey's mumblings. If you like subtitles and hockey, this is the film for you. And I like Coffey and Tvo. Hope you guys can take a joke, even if it is a bad one. lol

Nik Zherdev, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rick Nash, Nathan Hortan, Marc-Andre Fleury (I could go on) asll stepped in before they turned 20. I wouldn't turn this into a debate about developing players if I were you, because so far your arguements haven't been too good.

My point exactly! Thanks for pointing out how rare it is to be 20 & playing in the NHL! Where's Ahonen? Where's Parise? Didn't they sign before the season ended last year?

My point exactly! Thanks for pointing out how rare it is to be 20 & playing in the NHL! Where's Ahonen? Where's Parise? Didn't they sign before the season ended last year?

"I could go on..."

Tyutin is a good kid. He is. He's played pretty well, and he is pretty young. Doesn't always mean he will develop into something more.

Where's Parise? It's not a bright idea to jump a kid right out of college into the NHL playoffs. Not too smart. And now there's that annoying thing called a lockout. Yeh. He is a PPG player in the AHL though... Where's Ahonen? Well, there's this guy named Brodeur who isn't relinquishing his spot. Hm.

We don't bump up players out of necessity, unlike the Rangers, Penguins, and Capitals. We believe in winning, and it suits us well.

My point exactly! Thanks for pointing out how rare it is to be 20 & playing in the NHL! Where's Ahonen? Where's Parise? Didn't they sign before the season ended last year?
Ahonen would have been in the NHL 2 seasons ago if not for probably the best goaltender in the game playing 70 game seasons every year. Parise was signed right before the playoffs and even you would agree its not a smart idea to drop a high rated prospect into a heated playoff series. There was also a guy, his name was Scott Gomez who put up 70 points as a 19 year old.

I also heard that Kadeykin is training with Spartak-2, i believe he will be playing for senior team since the middle of November.

How is it that some third or fourth tier prospect gets attention from some Rangers fan? Oh yeah. Who cares?

Fedor Tyjutin is overrated. The only reason he's considered good is because he's one of the last developing Rangers prospects left. Sort of like Donier Navarro of the Yankees or Matt Stajan of the Leafs.


Cmon. Don't get so personal due to what AtlantaRanger posted. Objectively, Tjutin should develop into a #2 or 3 defenseman. And the best thing I like about his game is he's not one-dimensional. He can actually play in his end.

A guy like him and a guy like Kondratiev will go a long way to us being competitive again.

And P.S. Matt Stajan is good. Toronto should have played him against Philly. They might have won.

And lets not forget Patrice Bergeron. Lets face it, look at the Rangers drafting position over the last several years and look at the Devils position. We have Gionta, Hale and Martin already helping the big team. Any Ranger draft picks that have actually helped recently...I can't think of one.


That's the organization's fault. But when I look at it objectively, most of Neil Smith's picks were horrible and Sather wasn't handed a lot to work with in our system. Brendl was lazy and they didn't do an interview. Lundmark was supposed to be good but after playing well in Hartford back in 2002 and having a decent rookie year in '03, he regressed last year. Part of that was due to his role (4th line) and part of that was due to his lack of drive. Something I can't comprehend since this guy was not supposed to have those kind of issues.

And remember. Neil Smith sacrificed our future goalie (Dan Cloutier) to trade up to select Brendl. When you make a deal like that, you have to be certain it will pan out.


And Lundmark's acquisition was a pick swap with Calgary where Smith blundered giving away second line center Marc Savard. At the time, Savard was said to have an "attitude problem." Since then, he's developed well and the deal from Calgary to Atlanta seems to have turned him into almost a borderline #1 pivot similar to Scott Gomez. Meanwhile, Lundmark still hasn't become what they expected. Another deal which could go down as bad unless Jamie suddenly gets the urge.

If you want to critique Sather for anything, rip him for trading Mike York and giving away Marek Zidlicky. York was a very valuable player and every Ranger fan knew that deal for Poti was brutal. The Zidlicky deal was one where he shouldn't have included him for Doneham. But at the time, with Richter's concussion, they needed a goalie and Nashville knew they could get more because of that.

Zid's would have been a perfect power play point guy to pair with Leetch. And they hadn't had one since Zubov. Another dumb Neil Smith move.

York was never replaced. Lundmark was supposed to be the guy but lack of ice-time, loss of confidence and an injury have prevented that from happening. At 23, Lundmark's chances are running out. When the NHL resumes, he needs to shape up.

As far as the organizational theory, that was bad from the beginning. They kept bringing in guys but nobody could get the team to the playoffs. One other mistake was dealing Johnsson in the Lindros deal. Johnsson has developed into a #2 or #3 reliable D-man.

Add up the fact that Neil Smith's other prized possession Manny Malhotra was rushed to the NHL and then the whole falling out with Muckler and it didn't leave much room for development.

After trying the old theory, Sather finally realized it wasn't working. In less than two months, he bolstered the Ranger farm system a ton trading some of the high priced underachievers and loaded up on prospects and picks. While all that was going on, what got lost in the shuffle was that in Sather's first draft, they did very well stealing Tjutin in the second round and landing Nigel Dawes late and Bryce Lampman. Throw in the best Swedish goalie prospect Henrik Lundqvist (taken 8th round) and Garth Murray and the Rangers have some guys who could all wind up being on the roster.

That's the building block. Dawes ironically was overlooked due to his size (sound familiar?). He wound up making Canada's WJC roster last year and put up as many points as Parise. But it went under the radar. Dawes wasn't old enough for the AHL. So, he's back putting up good numbers in junior before coming over next year.

I also could toss in Dominic Moore as a potential replacement for York. It only took three years. Moore was taken out of Harvard and plays a similar style to York. Smart two-way playmaking center that can play in any situation. He's off to a great start this year with the Pack and deserves a shot next time there's an NHL.

Throw in Chad Wiseman, Max Kondratiev (from Toronto in Leetch deal) and Jozef Balej (acquired for Kovalev) and the Rangers have some good guys for the future.

This excludes Blackburn, Jessiman, Immonen, Prucha, Marek, Korpikoski and some of our other D prospects in Charlotte.

On top of this, it looks like the Rangers did very well last June. I'm not talking about Montoya either. Daren Olver is playing well for N. Michigan. Ryan Callahan was selected to Team USA and is off to a solid start. Billy Ryan also isn't doing badly in his first year at Maine. Plus ninth rounder Jacob Petruzlek was OHL player of the month for October. Not bad.

Bottom line is now that they have the guys in place, you're going to see a drastic change in what happens when the organization finally has a development system.

I believe in three years (depending on the lockout), that's when the Rangers will be competing for the playoffs once again. It takes time.

I have waited for them to do this forever. More excited than I ever was the last seven hopeless seasons.

Tytuin would possibly be the 6th defenseman on NJ.

I think that's about accurate.

Worry about the Rags, cuz there really isnt much to worry about in NJ.

Tytuin would possibly be the 6th defenseman on NJ.

I think that's about accurate.

Worry about the Rags, cuz there really isnt much to worry about in NJ.
Tyutin wouldn't make the Devils. Stevens, Rafalski, Niedermayer, White, Martin and Matvichuk would all be ahead of him. In a year he may pass Matvichuk and White but not now.

I don't care what Smith did or what Sather is doing. They spent about 400mil more the NJ in the '90's. That's what Lou had to deal with, and he didn't do it by signing UFA's. The rag$ have done about as poor a job with the money advantage they have enjoyed/abused,as any team in any sport . If NJ had the same payroll [though who would want that] they would have been in 7 of the last ten finals and won 5 Cups.