St. Paul crowds

ish
09-10-2004, 06:38 PM
Is anyone else as disgusted as I am about the poor crowds in MN? I don't care baout bad marketing. If you people can sell out a Wild-Preds game with 32 total shots in the game months in advance can you put some fans in the seats for a some great international hockey? No offense to the great hockey people of Minnesota but I don't think anyone will be knocking your door for quite a while in regards to hosting international hockey. Let's hit Detroit next (despite that Canadians will poor over the border to attend).

HellsBells
09-10-2004, 06:42 PM
I was disappointed in Toronto as well. The Minnesota crowd shouldn't have much to cheer about tonight anyway.

3-0 Finland. :D

Schenn02
09-10-2004, 06:54 PM
Here we go again :shakehead

MooseHunter
09-10-2004, 06:56 PM
I'm surprised at the level of noise, sorry lack of noise, in St. Paul. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the games start at 6pm CT and people come in, missing the 1st period? I know that would make me less enthusastic about the game.

And, as for the Torontoians, come on you're Canadian, show it and MAKE SOME NOISE!!!

HellsBells
09-10-2004, 07:02 PM
Here we go again :shakehead

:dunno:

monster_bertuzzi
09-10-2004, 08:09 PM
Never heard the Xcell Energy center so quiet. And for once they're seeing exciting hockey!

Classic Devil
09-10-2004, 08:15 PM
I don't think they're nearly as bad as you're all making them out to be.

Leafer72*
09-10-2004, 08:45 PM
Right now in the Finland/USA game there's nothing going on, no offensive chances not much to cheer about same thing in the first Russia/USA game where the got dominated by the Russians

I think the Vikings are dominated the sports news around there and it's September

Hockeyfan02
09-10-2004, 08:49 PM
:dunno:

People were talking about it in the US/Russia GDT as well.

The Legend
09-10-2004, 09:47 PM
I was disappointed in Toronto as well. The Minnesota crowd shouldn't have much to cheer about tonight anyway.

3-0 Finland. :D



It wasn't the noise he was talking about, it was the tickets sold.

Mr. Penguin
09-10-2004, 11:18 PM
Ah, it feels so good to post here now. It's so damn right that USA lost! 2-1! ha ha ha ha! This is so right for USA and it's poor fans. Now I'm sure there are (a) few hockey maniacs in USA, but I just can't like a country that doesn't give a damn about hockey. This feels so good now. Now the bad crowd is even quieter. ha ha ha! :lol

Brad*
09-10-2004, 11:48 PM
Ah, it feels so good to post here now. It's so damn right that USA lost! 2-1! ha ha ha ha! This is so right for USA and it's poor fans. Now I'm sure there are (a) few hockey maniacs in USA, but I just can't like a country that doesn't give a damn about hockey. This feels so good now. Now the bad crowd is even quieter. ha ha ha! :lol
Oh no, as an American I don't know if I can go on knowing that Mr. Penguin doesn't like the US.

Masao
09-10-2004, 11:54 PM
I just can't like a country that doesn't give a damn about hockey

Like 99% of the countries on the planet?

MePutPuckInNet
09-10-2004, 11:54 PM
I think it has something to do with the fact that the so called "state of hockey" is a giant lie. It seems that many Minnesota Wild fans are fans of MINNESOTA....and not really hockey fans at all....

Brad*
09-10-2004, 11:55 PM
I think it has something to do with the fact that the so called "state of hockey" is a giant lie. It seems that many Minnesota Wild fans are fans of MINNESOTA....and not really hockey fans at all....
Yeah, the real "state of hockey" is New Mexico.

Buffalo Stylee
09-11-2004, 12:00 AM
Ah, it feels so good to post here now. It's so damn right that USA lost! 2-1! ha ha ha ha! This is so right for USA and it's poor fans. Now I'm sure there are (a) few hockey maniacs in USA, but I just can't like a country that doesn't give a damn about hockey. This feels so good now. Now the bad crowd is even quieter. ha ha ha! :lol

Wow. You beat us at hockey. Good for you. How are those whopping 2 medals Finland won in the Olympics doing?

GoM
09-11-2004, 12:03 AM
Oh christ here we go

ceber
09-11-2004, 12:33 AM
Is anyone else as disgusted as I am about the poor crowds in MN? I don't care baout bad marketing. If you people can sell out a Wild-Preds game with 32 total shots in the game months in advance can you put some fans in the seats for a some great international hockey? No offense to the great hockey people of Minnesota but I don't think anyone will be knocking your door for quite a while in regards to hosting international hockey. Let's hit Detroit next (despite that Canadians will poor over the border to attend).

Great international hockey? Pfft. I was pumped for those games, asked the team about tickets the day after I learned we'd get some games at the X. Apart from a couple of flashy plays every so often, that sweet Kovalev goal, and some marvelous passing by Modano, these games weren't all that great. It was mostly a letdown, and it wasn't because the crowds got in late. The hockey wasn't all that stunning. Wild games are often more fun there. I was really trying to get into it, too. Don't get me wrong, I had fun, but this last loss doesn't really feel like a big deal. There's no heartbreak. Without that tension, the games just aren't really that great. The US team looked like they didn't care half the time. How are the fans supposed to get into it when the players aren't?

Honestly, I got the feeling from a lot of people that they felt this was sort of a made-up, exhibition tournament. The tension level at the games just wasn't there. I think they should go back to calling it Canada's Cup. Play all the games on the north side of the border (or east, I suppose). Fans over there will watch anything, and you'll get good crowds and coverage.

Gophers v. Denver on October 9th at the X is going to blow all of these games away combined, and I can't wait for it. ;)

MePutPuckInNet
09-11-2004, 12:54 AM
hmm.....you make a good point, ceber. i wonder if all the negativity about the CBA crap has taken the heart out of things?

Rocky Saginuts
09-11-2004, 01:00 AM
I've been to a few of the Toronto games, and believe me, it aint electric-city up here either. This tourney just doesn't seem to be capturing the imagination of the casual hockey fan.

Team Canada's into it, Montreal was into it, Finland and it's players are into it - but not many outside that group give a rat's arce.

I'm into it, so I'll be at Canada's next TWO victories. Finland's boring rope-a-dope blanket approach will put a few fans into a coma, but Heatley's gonna break out!!!!

Cheers

PS: To bad USA, I wanted the rematch.

The Legend
09-11-2004, 01:03 AM
I've been to a few of the Toronto games, and believe me, it aint electric-city up here either. This tourney just doesn't seem to be capturing the imagination of the casual hockey fan.

Team Canada's into it, Montreal was into it, Finland and it's players are into it - but not many outside that group give a rat's arce.

I'm into it, so I'll be at Canada's next TWO victories. Finland's boring rope-a-dope blanket approach will put a few fans into a coma, but Heatley's gonna break out!!!!

Cheers

PS: To bad USA, I wanted the rematch.


Don't assume the rest of Canada isn't into it, just because Montreal makes more noise than Toronto. As mentioned previously, Toronto fans don't make that much noise, with all the corporations in attendance. Yet the games are still selling out(33 tickets, bah) and their is still interest. Same in Western Canada. Montreal wasn't that great. People seem to forget it was empty too at the beginning of the periods, and wasn't really that loud.

deandebean
09-11-2004, 02:03 AM
Don't assume the rest of Canada isn't into it, just because Montreal makes more noise than Toronto. As mentioned previously, Toronto fans don't make that much noise, with all the corporations in attendance. Yet the games are still selling out(33 tickets, bah) and their is still interest. Same in Western Canada. Montreal wasn't that great. People seem to forget it was empty too at the beginning of the periods, and wasn't really that loud.


I'm not big into pissing contests, but writing that Montreal wasn't that great is going too far. Montreal was a great venue for this tournament. The hockey played there was solid. Rock solid. And the fans were absolutely perfect.

As for Toronto, I mostly believe it's because of the suits. Even though Torontonians are not as vocal, I do believe it can't be worse than in MN. If you believe the hockey during the regular season of the NHL is better, I guess Jacques Lemaire has really brainwashed you guys...God bless us all. You're seeing the best damn players in the world playing, and you're complaining about the quality of the hockey? You would rather see Pascal Dupuis than Saku Koivu or Mike Modano? Sheesh...

I would take this kind of hockey for 82 games. In fact, they should go back to 8 teams in the NHL, with the best players, just like this tourney. I simply envy my father and grandmother who witnessed the glorious era of the NHL, with only 6 teams.

4 nipple finn
09-11-2004, 02:28 AM
Wow. You beat us at hockey. Good for you. How are those whopping 2 medals Finland won in the Olympics doing?

don't be a sore loser

ceber
09-11-2004, 03:17 AM
If you believe the hockey during the regular season of the NHL is better, I guess Jacques Lemaire has really brainwashed you guys...God bless us all. You're seeing the best damn players in the world playing, and you're complaining about the quality of the hockey? You would rather see Pascal Dupuis than Saku Koivu or Mike Modano? Sheesh...

Durn tootin' I'm complaining. The names on the back of the jerseys aren't what makes good hockey, if you ask me. St. Paul got one pretty good game, and that was the Russia/US quarterfinal. There were some entertaining moments in the other games, but they also had large portions of sloppy and ugly play. Tonight's game it looked like they forgot to have their nap earlier or something. Passes into the feet instead of on the stick, guys not paying attention as the puck gets passed to them. Shots were 4-3 after the first period... that's not good, no matter who's on the ice.

Rob Paxon
09-11-2004, 03:51 AM
don't be a sore loser

Why not also suggest the person he replied to not be a sore winner.

barrytrotzsneck
09-11-2004, 04:31 AM
Why not also suggest the person he replied to not be a sore winner.


Rob Paxon speaks the truth, as he usually does.

All hail the Rob Paxon, and his ever-present, grind-listening wisdom! :bow: :yo:

In this thread, there shall be no sore winner...nor shall there be sore losers. No soreness. Whatsoever.

MooseHunter
09-11-2004, 07:22 AM
Durn tootin' I'm complaining. The names on the back of the jerseys aren't what makes good hockey, if you ask me. St. Paul got one pretty good game, and that was the Russia/US quarterfinal. There were some entertaining moments in the other games, but they also had large portions of sloppy and ugly play. Tonight's game it looked like they forgot to have their nap earlier or something. Passes into the feet instead of on the stick, guys not paying attention as the puck gets passed to them. Shots were 4-3 after the first period... that's not good, no matter who's on the ice.

And what makes exciting hockey? The Minnesota Wild? :lol I don't understand why everyone is complaining about the excitement level of hockey in this tournament, because it's the last bit of hockey we're going to have for a very long time, at least for those of us that don't have other means of hockey (AHL, NCAA, WHL, etc). I find it a privilage that an international tournament is the last place I'm going to see my favourite and the best hockey players in the world for a long time. At least I don't have to see them in the NHL where it's a joke majority of the time.

Mr. Penguin
09-11-2004, 07:37 AM
Heh. Someone would like to see a regular NHl team playing instead of star-packed teams like USA or Canada? Minnesota of all teams? LOL! Wild's games must be the most boring in NHL. Oh well...

A sad thing is that only Canada, Sweden and Finland seemed to be really exited about this tournament. But that's why those are the teams I were cheering for. I know how much a win would mean for Finland, or how much it would have ment for Sweden.

I can't understand people who think like "this is just some crappy biased NHL tournament". It's the best tournament in a long time and maybe the only quality hockey you guys in America will be seeing this year. :shakehead


Oh and Montreal has the best crowd. At least in this tournament. :yo: Toronto's crowd, though could be better, is still many times better than Xcel Energy Center's.

High flyin' Habs*
09-11-2004, 09:52 AM
Don't assume the rest of Canada isn't into it, just because Montreal makes more noise than Toronto. As mentioned previously, Toronto fans don't make that much noise, with all the corporations in attendance. Yet the games are still selling out(33 tickets, bah) and their is still interest. Same in Western Canada. Montreal wasn't that great. People seem to forget it was empty too at the beginning of the periods, and wasn't really that loud.

Did you even see the games played in Montreal?? Not that loud??? Comon!

monkey_00*
09-11-2004, 10:23 AM
>>>St. Paul crowds

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Is anyone else as disgusted as I am about the poor crowds in MN? I don't care baout bad marketing. If you people can sell out a Wild-Preds game with 32 total shots in the game months in advance can you put some fans in the seats for a some great international hockey? No offense to the great hockey people of Minnesota but I don't think anyone will be knocking your door for quite a while in regards to hosting international hockey. Let's hit Detroit next (despite that Canadians will poor over the border to attend).<<<
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Ya I know eh.............it was almost as bad as it was in Toronto the other night.

Cheers!~

monkey_00

monkey_00*
09-11-2004, 10:26 AM
>>>I think it has something to do with the fact that the so called "state of hockey" is a giant lie. It seems that many Minnesota Wild fans are fans of MINNESOTA....and not really hockey fans at all....<<<

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meputpuckinnet.............

Not too sure if that's entirely accurate.........College hockey is just as popular as NHL hockey in Minnesota IF not MORE.

Cheers!~

monkey_00

monkey_00*
09-11-2004, 10:33 AM
>>>Don't assume the rest of Canada isn't into it, just because Montreal makes more noise than Toronto. As mentioned previously, Toronto fans don't make that much noise, with all the corporations in attendance. Yet the games are still selling out(33 tickets, bah) and their is still interest. Same in Western Canada. Montreal wasn't that great. People seem to forget it was empty too at the beginning of the periods, and wasn't really that loud.<<<
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leafs4thecup...........

First of all (Off topic) I love that handle of yours........It's nice to dream and fantasize REALLY BIG...........

Anyways.......those "33-tickets" that people keep saying that weren't sold in Toronto looked more to me from watching on TV like it was 33-SECTIONS not sold..........I can count and it was ALOT more than 33-seats in Toronto not sold like they would have us believe.......what an absolute embarrassment for Toronto.....don't even compare Toronto to Montreal cause it's no comparison at all.......what games were you watching anyways???

Cheers!~

monkey_00

Raimo Sillanpää
09-11-2004, 11:21 AM
I think it'd be more suitable if the next world cup is held in x,y,z cities in europe, and in say, New York, Chicago, Montreal in North America.
Would be better for the European tv market, and market penetration into Germany, etc needs great games at watchable times, beleive me, Germans aren't watching Czech-Canada at 1am to 4am local time.

Plus, hockey could benefit from the buzz it'd generate in a city like New York.

JVR
09-11-2004, 07:30 PM
I just read Tuomo Ruutu's diary entries on his homepage and stumbled on this quote:

We could have gone to watch Canada v Slovakia, too… for $170 a head… so I doubt that we’re going. Kinda funny that even the players don’t get to go to the games. (http://www.tuomoruutu.com/news/files/5748.html)

:eek:

Dolemite
09-11-2004, 11:09 PM
Never heard the Xcell Energy center so quiet. And for once they're seeing exciting hockey!

According to a response to a post I made on the Minnesota Wild Boards, The Xcell Energy Center sufferes from "LowerBowlofGMPlaceidas". Basically, Rich people who are season ticket holders sit on their hands and watch the game like it was on TV.

ceber
09-12-2004, 02:04 AM
According to a response to a post I made on the Minnesota Wild Boards, The Xcell Energy Center sufferes from "LowerBowlofGMPlaceidas". Basically, Rich people who are season ticket holders sit on their hands and watch the game like it was on TV.

As an upper-deck fan, I'm surprised to learn that they watch the game down there. ;)

The Legend
09-12-2004, 02:09 AM
>>>Don't assume the rest of Canada isn't into it, just because Montreal makes more noise than Toronto. As mentioned previously, Toronto fans don't make that much noise, with all the corporations in attendance. Yet the games are still selling out(33 tickets, bah) and their is still interest. Same in Western Canada. Montreal wasn't that great. People seem to forget it was empty too at the beginning of the periods, and wasn't really that loud.<<<
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leafs4thecup...........

First of all (Off topic) I love that handle of yours........It's nice to dream and fantasize REALLY BIG...........

Anyways.......those "33-tickets" that people keep saying that weren't sold in Toronto looked more to me from watching on TV like it was 33-SECTIONS not sold..........I can count and it was ALOT more than 33-seats in Toronto not sold like they would have us believe.......what an absolute embarrassment for Toronto.....don't even compare Toronto to Montreal cause it's no comparison at all.......what games were you watching anyways???

Cheers!~

monkey_00

I'm interested to know how many Leaf games you watch during the year, or go to in fact. The thing is, the seats appear empty, because people come back late.

Did you see Sakic's second goal against the States in Montreal. I wasn't watching the goal. I was watching and marveling at the stands, where Montreal fans in the front rows were having the same type of thing. Coming back late. That looked pretty empty.

You obviously don't know Toronto fans, or the Leafs, since they don't sell out oh, about 2 games A YEAR. Check the box score.

SedinFan
09-12-2004, 02:10 AM
Oh christ here we go

Please don't use the Lords name in vain.