Rookie Tournament

Here is a place to post everything and talk about all information relating to the rookie tournament.

Ducks lost tonight 3-2 in OT, Clarke scored for the Kings when a breakout pass bounced off him right onto his stick.

Overall, the Ducks outshot the Kings 29-21 in regulation and for the last two periods the play was pretty much in the Kings end.

Some observations:
-Glencross scored a sick goal where he deked the Kings defender and put in a backhand just inside the far post.

-Kanko for the Kings was the best player on the ice in my opinion. Quick skater with good moves.

-The ice at Disney Ice was horrible.. ruined lots of scoring chances because the puck wouldn't stay still. The rink just wasn't made for NHL size players going full speed. The net wouldn't stay on it's moorings and the various doors around the rink kept opening when there was a big crunch on the boards, which there were many.

-In a post earlier this week or two weeks ago regarding Zenon Konopka, I asked what he does well for being 6'0 190. The answer I got tonight was hustle. He was in the mix a lot and throwing big hits. I think he could eventually be a 4th line pain in the ass for a lot of people. I definitely like his style, good signing.

-Getzlaf for me didn't live up to the hype. Also, I thought it was kind of funny that in a 2-2 game late in the 3rd period, he was pointing his stick at the girl in front of me taking pictures, at least that's what it appeared to me he was doing.

-Corey Perry slew-footed one of the Kings goalies, which I found mildly amusing.. strangely enough the Kings players didn't think the same way.

-Judging by that game, I don't think Perry or Getzlaf have what it takes to be stars in the NHL. I know it's only one game but I wasn't too impressed.

-Tim Brent is a very smart player, I'm glad we got him signed.

-Aaron Rome hurt either his knee or his ankle and had to be helped off the ice during the 2nd intermission. Hopefully it isn't too serious but I'm willing to bet it is. The loudmouth behind me said he got hit on the front of his knee so do with that what you will.

If anyone has any questions, let me know and I'll answer them as well as I can... and if I can't I'm sure someone else who was there probably will be able to.

thanks for the report, i'm sure many of the players would get disinterested or lose intensity if the conditions are as you said.

Thanks for the report Vish. I was anxiously waiting all night.

Can anyone tell me what were the Ducks lienups in the first game???

How did Canzanello look?

He's signed by Cincy FYI.

Did Gabriel Bouthillette start in goal? If so, how did he look? And also how did Jordan Smith look out there?

How did Canzanello look?

Not bad.. he had a lot of PP time. Small but quick little player who drove to the net in OT. Kind of reminds me of Mike Crowley a little bit for some reason.

Did Gabriel Bouthillette start in goal? If so, how did he look? And also how did Jordan Smith look out there?

Yes Bouthillette did start in goal. At first I thought, "wow, this guy sucks." Kanko scored the first goal on a rolling puck which is tough for any goalie to pick up. I can't remember exactly how Clarke scored his first goal, but I do recall that once Bouthillette started to settle down, he looked good. He absolutely robbed a King player point blank with his glove.

Jordan Smith looked pretty decent. I thought he'd see more power play time than he did but he impressed me by winning a fight and playing physical. He's not a big player but he doesn't back down.

but I do recall that once Bouthillette started to settle down, he looked good. He absolutely robbed a King player point blank with his glove.


That was a sweet save. I was fortunate enough to be sitting right in front of it at the time. It was one of those where the player is not more than ten feet away from the goalie, rips a wrister into an open top corner, and the goalie just sticks out his glove and snags it from behind his head just before getting past the goal plane. It was nice!

Any recap of the fight?

Barr and Smith squared off for a fight at the 18:55 mark in the first. Barr had three solid shots in on Smith, they wrestled for a bit, then Smith came back with some booming hooks.


To add to it, Barr had the upper hand early, Smith really did a good job in tying him up and out muscling him and just took over. Smith ended up clobbering him....badly


This was early on
http://www.letsgokings.com/copper/albums/userpics/rookie1/IMG_3323.jpg

-Getzlaf for me didn't live up to the hype.
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-Judging by that game, I don't think Perry or Getzlaf have what it takes to be stars in the NHL. I know it's only one game but I wasn't too impressed.
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You're going to extrapolate from the very first exhibition game of the year (for rookies) that ". . . neither Perry nor Getzlaf have what it takes to be stars in the NHL"? Suppose Barry Bonds had gone 0-for-4 in his first rookie game? Would you have written him off? Gretzky, Gordie Howe, Mario LeMieux and Newsy Lalonde all had bad games. If the only time you saw Gretzky, he had a bad game, would you conclude that he wasn't All-Star material?

I don't think anyone can begin to formulate a reasonable opinion of a player's ability without seeing him play at least a dozen times.

Thanks for the report. Hopefully getzlaf and perry will play better tonight. Did Penner or Saunders stand out at all? McDonald19 should have some thoughts on the game as I think he was going to the first 2 days. I was a litte disappointed with picking Smith in the 2nd round, mostly because I had never heard of him but he seems to be a very solid prospect.

LA absotively cleaned PHX 11-2

After 1 period, ANA is leading SJ 2-1
goals from the usuals (Glencross and Perrault)

Anaheim exploded in the 2nd and now lead 6-2 after two

Anaheim exploded in the 2nd and now lead 6-2 after two

Who scored the goals?

And BTW, where you gettin' the updates from?

That Getzlaf-Perry-Glencross line...WOW!

It's on mightyducks.com. They'll give the scoring once the game's over.

Glenncross had two goals tonight, Getzlaf added four assists, O'Brien,Perry,Pohanka and Perrault each had a goal apiece.

Boutilliete saved 30 of 32 shots.

Petr Kanko absolutely owned the Yotes he had 4 goals and an assist.

I saw on another board that a Kings player was severly hurt, who was it and what happened?

Anyone know of a web-site that has good action shots?

I saw on another board that a Kings player was severly hurt, who was it and what happened?

Beau Geisler, an invitee. Did not see what happened, but I think he took a slash or a boarding.

Some observations:
-Glencross scored a sick goal where he deked the Kings defender and put in a backhand just inside the far post.

-Kanko for the Kings was the best player on the ice in my opinion. Quick skater with good moves.

-The ice at Disney Ice was horrible.. ruined lots of scoring chances because the puck wouldn't stay still. The rink just wasn't made for NHL size players going full speed. The net wouldn't stay on it's moorings and the various doors around the rink kept opening when there was a big crunch on the boards, which there were many.

-In a post earlier this week or two weeks ago regarding Zenon Konopka, I asked what he does well for being 6'0 190. The answer I got tonight was hustle. He was in the mix a lot and throwing big hits. I think he could eventually be a 4th line pain in the ass for a lot of people. I definitely like his style, good signing.

-Getzlaf for me didn't live up to the hype. Also, I thought it was kind of funny that in a 2-2 game late in the 3rd period, he was pointing his stick at the girl in front of me taking pictures, at least that's what it appeared to me he was doing.

-Judging by that game, I don't think Perry or Getzlaf have what it takes to be stars in the NHL. I know it's only one game but I wasn't too impressed.

-Tim Brent is a very smart player, I'm glad we got him signed.

-Aaron Rome hurt either his knee or his ankle and had to be helped off the ice during the 2nd intermission. Hopefully it isn't too serious but I'm willing to bet it is. The loudmouth behind me said he got hit on the front of his knee so do with that what you will.



1)Glencross looked great. I loved the Glencross-Getzlaf-Perry line.

2)I hate Kanko. He reminds me of Cammaleri, good scorer, small guy that talks crap and then runs away when challenged to fight.

3)Agreed. The ice sucked and the goal moving constantly was annoying.

4)I agree about Konopoka, I have more to say about him in my game 2 report.

5)Offensively Getzlaf wasn't great in game 1 but what I noticed about him was leadership. He looked like he deserved the C. He looked like he was the "man". I liked that. He brought his offense out in game 2 though.

6)They both looked better in game 2.

7)funny I barely noticed Brent in either game. He was quiet.

8)Great to see Rome back for game 2.

Game 2 report:

lines:

Glencross-Getzlaf-Perry

Parenteau-Perrault-Penner

Stepp-Brent-Gibbons

Konopka-Pohanka-Kelly

The first two lines stayed the same the 3rd and 4th lines were mixed a little.

The D pairings were changed throughout.

O'Brien-Smith-Saunders-Rome-Canzanello-Alen

Staubitz and Davis were the scratches. Davis hasn't played yet. I asked him after game 1 when I got his autograph if he was going to play tomorrow and he said he hoped so.

Offense:

Getzlaf: He was great. Had a couple of great passes to set up goals and often dominated when he was out there. I'm not sure if he has the offensive upside to be a first line center, but he will at least be a really good second line center/captain/team leader.

Perry: Finally got on the score sheet. Played much better today. Good chemistry with his linemates. Played aggressive. Threw a hit that led to a Smith fight. Skating and strength need improvement. Hands and vision are good. If he puts in the necessary work then I see him as a good second line winger.

Glencross: Exceeded my expectations. Wheels, hands, aggressiveness. He is ticketed for the NHL. 2nd/3rd liner.

Parenteau: Creative player. With him and Perrault you can tell the full year in the AHL made them more confident. Speed, hands, a little meanstreak. Could be an NHL 2nd liner if he keeps improving.

Perrault: same as Parenteau.

Penner: Good size, made room for his linemates. Not sure about scoring touch yet.

Tim Brent: He was quiet out there in my opinion. Not a lot of offense from him. Made the smart plays on penalty kill etc.

Stepp: Solid, checker , penalty killer. Definetly could be a solid 3rd liner in the NHL at some point.

Gibbons: 18 yr old tryout didn't look out of place. Aggressive, creative player. Hard to say what kind of player he will be long term.

Kelly: Tryout, least noticeable player out there. Didn't do anything great nor anything stupid.

Pohanka: Used his size pretty well. Had a nice goal. long term project I think.

Konopka: This guy was great! Not sure about his offensive upside yet. In the Kings game he was skating by their bench all game talking crap it was great. In the Sharks game during warm ups he goes out the center ice and stretches right next to their enforcer and talks back and forth with him and they fight twice in the game. The guys face looked all messed up during the post game autograph session. If the Ducks are looking for an agitator long term Konopka is the guy.

defense:

Smith: Very nice 2nd round choice by Coates. Smith could be the Adam Foote type that the Ducks have always lacked. Perry got floored in game 1. Smith took the # went after the guy later and challenged him to fight, he backed out and another King stepped in and got beat up for his trouble. Game 2 Perry hit a Shark from behind and the Shark challenged Perry to fight, Smith came right in and dropped the gloves. His defensive abilities looked solid as well.

Saunders: Big D-Man was quiet in game 1. Got more agressive in game 2. One of the Sharks was messing with Parenteau and Saunders came over and dropped the gloves and the Shark backed off. Needs some skating work and more work on positioning but he brings a lot to the table.

O'Brien: Big Mean Defensemen. Won his fight but was ejected because the fight occured during stoppage of play. Seemed like a cool guy when I talked to him after the game. Needs work on his skating.

Rome: He was solid but didn't do a whole lot worth noticing. Good to see he recovered from game 1 injury.

Alen: Solid D-Man. Uses his size well, plays physical, moves the puck. Should be a 2nd or 3rd pairing D-Man in the NHL in 2 years.

Staubitz and Canzanello: Besides Canzanello's giveaway that gave the Kings a win in game 1, they both looked decent.

Misc. thoughts:

-Our prospect team shows more team toughness and team togetherness than our NHL team. They actually care about eachother unlike the NHL guys.

-Andy McDonald, Mike Leclerc, Alexei Smirnov, Steve Rucchin, UFA Travis Green and New Jersey Devil Jeff Friesen were having an informal practice on the Olympic rink before game 1. I took a picture with Leclerc and McDonald :banana: , they both were really cool.

-Speaking of McDonald, the official gossip about him and Lupul from last year is that McDonald and Lupul were caught in the hottub at the Pond with 2 powerplayer girls and the girls were fired and McDonald and Lupul fined 5000 each.

-There are new Powerplayer girls and they all look 16 yrs old.

-Wild Wing was annoying and the guy who was doing the trivia during the intermissions was particularly annoying.

-All the prospects seemed really cool at the autograph session. I took a picture with Getzlaf and he seems like such a goofy guy that now I see why his line at the World Junior Champs was called "goof troop line". Perry was cool, he seems really skinny without his gear on, they need to feed him and make him spend hours working out.

If you have any questions about day 1 and 2 of the tournament let me know. I'm not going to day 3 and 4 so someone else will have to give reports.

good read, mcdonals19 :)

I played pick-up at Disney Ice right after the tournament on Friday. The Duck's prospects were standing and watching us play. How bizarre is that?

I still haven't received any contract offers though. :D

I played pick-up at Disney Ice right after the tournament on Friday. The Duck's prospects were standing and watching us play. How bizarre is that?

I still haven't received any contract offers though. :D
It's only a matter of time...you didn't embarrass yourself did you?

2)I hate Kanko. He reminds me of Cammaleri, good scorer, small guy that talks crap and then runs away when challenged to fight.


Lol! Then he's doing his job as an agitator. He drew two powerplays against in game 1 against the Ducks and another two in game 2 against the Coyotes. He's one of those players that fans of 29 other teams HATE, but the hometown fans just love. If he was in a Ducks jersey, you'd be raving about the guy.

Gibbons: 18 yr old tryout didn't look out of place. Aggressive, creative player. Hard to say what kind of player he will be long term.


I was sitting next to his grandfather on Thursday. Flew in from a rainy Toronto. Proud of his grandson as all hell! But he missed two no one within ten feet of him, wide open nets. Grand-dad just laughed and said "oh well, he's young". I was really pulling for the kid to burry one of those because his grandfather is such a nice guy.

Lol! Then he's doing his job as an agitator. He drew two powerplays against in game 1 against the Ducks and another two in game 2 against the Coyotes. He's one of those players that fans of 29 other teams HATE, but the hometown fans just love. If he was in a Ducks jersey, you'd be raving about the guy.
I'm not really a fan of agitators unless they fight, i can't stand guys that turtle...i'm not sure if Kanko is a fighter or not.

It's only a matter of time...you didn't embarrass yourself did you?
No I played alright. I had a little extra jump for some reason. :dunno:

I'm not really a fan of agitators unless they fight, i can't stand guys that turtle...i'm not sure if Kanko is a fighter or not.
He'll fight if he has too. Think Theo Fleury without the problems
:)

I'm not really a fan of agitators unless they fight, i can't stand guys that turtle...i'm not sure if Kanko is a fighter or not.

He'll fight when the time is right in the game. If it's a situation where a penalty will really help, he'll draw it. But if it is a blow-out one way or the other, he'll drop gloves. Basically, what agitators do.

If he was in a Ducks jersey, you'd be raving about the guy.

possibly, but I prefer agitators who back up the talk with their fists such as Zenon Konopka. I think if someone is small like Kanko and has that scoring ability, just keep your mouth shut and score goals because otherwise your just risking getting hurt out there by some 6'5 220 pounder who gets angry.

No I played alright. I had a little extra jump for some reason. :dunno:

You shoulda pulled a Ned Braden. That would have really gotten you noticed.

Smith: Very nice 2nd round choice by Coates. Smith could be the Adam Foote type that the Ducks have always lacked. Perry got floored in game 1. Smith took the # went after the guy later and challenged him to fight, he backed out and another King stepped in and got beat up for his trouble. Game 2 Perry hit a Shark from behind and the Shark challenged Perry to fight, Smith came right in and dropped the gloves. His defensive abilities looked solid as well.

:lol: that's classic. Last season it was Jordan Smith constantly going after Perry and getting jumped for his troubles... now Smith's the one who's standing up for Perry. It'll be interesting to see how they compete against one another next year, assuming they both end up back in the OHL.

And I agree Smith was a steal in the second round of a not so great draft year. He impresses me every time I see him and it's no surpise he's playing a tough brand of hockey during this tourny.

possibly, but I prefer agitators who back up the talk with their fists such as Zenon Konopka. I think if someone is small like Kanko and has that scoring ability, just keep your mouth shut and score goals because otherwise your just risking getting hurt out there by some 6'5 220 pounder who gets angry.

You're going to hate Corey Perry than. He can put up points in bunches, but that doesn't stop him from doing anything and everything to piss off opposing players and rarely ever dropping the gloves.

Kanko's a very good leader and his work ethic is outstanding. He gets in guys faces, but he will also fight when push comes to shove... I've never really heard of him turtling and have seen him step in and drop the gloves to stick up for a teammates before.

Perry doesn't look like he could defend himself.

You're going to hate Corey Perry than. He can put up points in bunches, but that doesn't stop him from doing anything and everything to piss off opposing players and rarely ever dropping the gloves.



well I guess if your going to be a scoring forward that annoys people at least be 6'3.

:lol: that's classic. Last season it was Jordan Smith constantly going after Perry and getting jumped for his troubles... now Smith's the one who's standing up for Perry. It'll be interesting to see how they compete against one another next year, assuming they both end up back in the OHL.

And I agree Smith was a steal in the second round of a not so great draft year. He impresses me every time I see him and it's no surpise he's playing a tough brand of hockey during this tourny.

Thats interesting I wasn't aware of that. He was definetly Perry's bodyguard so far in the tournament. Perry brought him his gloves and stick after the fight too.

Smith was impressive for sure. :yo:

Ducks fell to PHX 4-2

In my keeper league Jordan Smith Fell all the way to 60!!! So I traded two thirds in 2005 for that pick.....I love Jordan Smith...he's going to be a mighty fine player.

Ducks fell to PHX 4-2

Stepp and Perry with the goals.

Was anyone there? I guess the Coyotes woke up after getting destroyed by the Kings 11-2 Friday.

The Ducks had 59 PIMS according to the Coyotes website.

Was anyone there? Fight card please...

Phoenix played a tighter, more physical game than the Ducks and managed to control the pace well enough to win 4-2.

Scoring
Phoenix: Latendresse from Ballard
Anaheim: Stepp from Kelly
Phoenix: Latendresse from Tomanek and Ballard
Phoenix: Tomanek from Latendresse
Anaheim: Perry from Canzanello
Phoenix (EN): McLeod from Gelech

There were three fights, but nothing of note. Glencross looked good again, eventhough he didn't score, very aggressive and physical. Perry showed some great wrists in stickhandling his way thru traffic on some sweet moves a couple of times.

The Ducks had 59 PIMS according to the Coyotes website.

Was anyone there? Fight card please...

Cormier (Phx) and Staubitz (Ana) in the 1st period
Bathe (Phx) and Saunders (Ana) in the 2nd period
Jenner (Phx) and Alen (Ana) in the 2nd period

Cormier (Phx) and Staubitz (Ana) in the 1st period


Actually Cormier one punched Staubitz and took him out just like that. I thought they went again when they skated on the next available shift.

Actually Cormier one punched Staubitz and took him out just like that. I thought they went again when they skated on the next available shift.

Well at least it was one of the tryouts.

Cormier (Phx) and Staubitz (Ana) in the 1st period
Bathe (Phx) and Saunders (Ana) in the 2nd period
Jenner (Phx) and Alen (Ana) in the 2nd period

Thanks

Getzlaf Article

http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2004/09/13/sections/sports/pro/article_238164.php

Ducks up 2-1 after one.

5-2 after two

Glencross with a hat trick

What is that for Curtis?5 or 6 goals?

7-2 Win!

DUCKS = 2004 Rookie Tournament Champions

:win:

also Smith won a big fight apparently...

Ducks goals:

Glencross 3
Getzlaf
Penner
Brent
Gibbons

Kings Goals:
Fortier
Clarke

http://www.mightyducks.com/pressbox/pressbody.asp?id=800

Glencross is a stud.. can't wait to see him play for the big team next season (2006-2007).

Does anyone know who was in net for both teams?

also Smith won a big fight apparently...

You were misinformed. If anything, that fight was draw if not a win by Neilson. Even if you are just counting cleanly landed punches, Neilson wins 2-1. The fight started with the square-off. Once they were within arms-length, Neilson immediately landed a HUGE left to Smith's chin, snapping Smith's head back and causing a collective "ooooooooo" from the crowd. After he recovered, they grabbed ahold of each other and wretled for a bit. Then each freed up a right hand and started wailing on each other. Smith then managed to land a clean right to Neilson's face, but Neilson followed that up with a clean right of his own to Smith's face (they obviously were not too concerned with defense in this fight ;) ). Then they wrestled again and each delivered some sweater-holding jabs. The refs wanted to come in and break it up at that moment but Neilson was screaming "no, let us go!" The refs backed off and let them continue, but they just wrestled around for a little more and the two let go of each other in exhaustion. It was a back and forth fight, probably would have scored it a 10-9 in favor of Neilson if it was a boxing match on the strength of that first blow which was AWESOME.

Smith left the ice covered in blood. I did not get a chance to see Neilson, but I would imagine he was pretty bloody too.

Neilson had been jarring with Saunders and O'Brien from the penalty box during the 2nd period. When Saunders and Neilson were both in the box in the 2nd period, Saunders leaned out of the box, looked at Neilson in the other box, and said "again". Neilson gave an approving look and sat back in the box. It sounded like Neilson had some scores to settle.

But besides that, the Ducks took it to a listless Kings team that looked tired and ready to go home by the 2nd period. Ducks just fed off of that and turned up the physical play.

I have to concur with DFA, Neilson got him really good.

Damn shame there won't be a season, i'd love to see Glenncross get some time.

Damn shame there won't be a season, i'd love to see Glenncross get some time.

Move to Cincinnati!

You were misinformed.



My friend tends to overexagerate...

Sounds like it was a crazy fight though...

Does anyone know who was in net for both teams?

Gabriel Bouthillette for Anaheim.

Los Angeles ??

Gabriel Bouthillette for Anaheim.

Los Angeles ??

Kings probably had Stephane Fiset in the nets...

Gabriel Bouthillette for Anaheim.

Los Angeles ??

Fukufuji then Marsters.

Glencross is a stud.. can't wait to see him play for the big team next season (2006-2007).

:lol: Good one!

He'll fight if he has too. Think Theo Fleury without the problems
:)

And without the 5.6?