Predatore 09-06-2004, 10:27 PM Matchup: Russia vs. USA
Venue, City: Xcel Energy Center
Time: 7:00 PM EDT
Rosters: Russia (http://wch2004.com/rosters/index.html#russia) | USA (http://wch2004.com/rosters/index.html#usa)
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prediction: 3-2 Russia.
Should be a great game.
rulin 09-06-2004, 10:32 PM 4-2 Russia, the last one being an emptynetter.
Should be an excellent game.
guinness 09-06-2004, 10:35 PM 3-1 Russia
Bloody Sabbath 09-06-2004, 10:38 PM 2-1 Usa
go kim johnsson 514 09-06-2004, 10:40 PM 4-2 Usa
Jacques Plante 09-06-2004, 10:44 PM I can't wait for this game to get unerway!
Should be a fun one!
VanIslander 09-06-2004, 11:39 PM Both teams have problems. Enjoy the win whomever.
It'll be their last in this tourney.
MOGiLNY 09-07-2004, 12:05 AM 4:1 Usa
Steveorama 09-07-2004, 12:10 AM Both teams have problems. Enjoy the win whomever.
It'll be their last in this tourney.
I disagree. Finland appears to have much bigger problems than either team, right now...and that will be the team that the winner faces.
The Finns are facing huge dissent in the dressing room, plus coaching problems.
I think either one of these teams will beat Finland.
I doubt either would take Canada in the Final, however.
We'll see.
Frogurt 09-07-2004, 12:14 AM I disagree. Finland appears to have much bigger problems than either team, right now...and that will be the team that the winner faces.
The Finns are facing huge dissent in the dressing room, plus coaching problems.
I think either one of these teams will beat Finland.
I doubt either would take Canada in the Final, however.
We'll see.
Let's not count or eggs early, eh? ;)
IF Canada beats Slovakia on Wednesday, they're in real tough versus either the Czechs or the Swedes.
High flyin' Habs* 09-07-2004, 12:56 AM 3-2 Russia
Chimaera 09-07-2004, 01:11 AM Hopefully we'll see Ovechkin again!
Conando 09-07-2004, 01:23 AM 5-0 Russia
Rabid Ranger 09-07-2004, 01:26 AM 5-0 Russia
Yes! Reverse psychology!
Cloned 09-07-2004, 01:27 AM Do you believe in redemption? YES!
If Hull plays, he could be a huge factor in this game.
Regardless, I'm going with 3-2 Russia in OT.
EroCaps 09-07-2004, 01:29 AM Hopefully we'll see Ovechkin again!
Here here!
Conando 09-07-2004, 01:29 AM Yes! Reverse psychology!
our team is just to damn slow old and cancerous tumors (Hull & Tkachoke) to beat the Russians, I'm actually hoping the Russians crush us, to get USA Hockey to think outside the box
EroCaps 09-07-2004, 01:35 AM our team is just to damn slow old and cancerous tumors (Hull & Tkachoke) to beat the Russians, I'm actually hoping the Russians crush us, to get USA Hockey to think outside the box
My thoughts exactly.
The True Blue Crew 09-07-2004, 02:19 AM Russia takes it 4-2
Shoalzie 09-07-2004, 02:35 AM If Hull plays, he could be a huge factor in this game.
I think we've seen Brett play his last game in a Team USA uniform. I've never seen him this angry...atleast openly. If he had problems in Detroit, they were kept quiet. He came out in the media said some very harsh things. If somehow he does play, I hope the American fans get on him good.
As for the game itself, I expect a better effort from Team USA. Pride has to kick in at some point. They got a win against the Slovaks which is atleast something. I'm hoping for Esche to go back in net for this game although he's 0-2. He's been the MVP so far for this team and I think he can be a Richter-like player for them if they want to go on a run in the playoffs. In the end, I think the Russians are just too quick and skilled. They're playing very inspired and are a team on a mission. Bryzgalov won't have to be a wall because the Americans don't mount enough of an attack offensively. The Russians will win because of their volume of scoring chances and the odds will catch up to Esche in the end.
Russia 3, USA 1
I'm looking forward to a new era in American hockey in the next World Cup...
Cloned 09-07-2004, 04:10 AM I think we've seen Brett play his last game in a Team USA uniform. I've never seen him this angry...atleast openly. If he had problems in Detroit, they were kept quiet. He came out in the media said some very harsh things. If somehow he does play, I hope the American fans get on him good.
As for the game itself, I expect a better effort from Team USA. Pride has to kick in at some point. They got a win against the Slovaks which is atleast something. I'm hoping for Esche to go back in net for this game although he's 0-2. He's been the MVP so far for this team and I think he can be a Richter-like player for them if they want to go on a run in the playoffs. In the end, I think the Russians are just too quick and skilled. They're playing very inspired and are a team on a mission. Bryzgalov won't have to be a wall because the Americans don't mount enough of an attack offensively. The Russians will win because of their volume of scoring chances and the odds will catch up to Esche in the end.
Russia 3, USA 1
I'm looking forward to a new era in American hockey in the next World Cup...
Agreed on all fronts.
I think Wilson made a ballsy decision and he deserves credit for making the right decision to sit a player who wasn't producing.
What I was referring to in my earlier post was the possibility that Hull could suit up. It's possible, although certainly not probable at this point. I would think that if Hull did dress (somehow), he would play better, if only to prove something.
Shack 09-07-2004, 05:49 AM Russia 3-1. If they move the puck like they did at first game against USA they'll have an easy game.
High flyin' Habs* 09-07-2004, 06:53 AM This game will be a matter of who wants it more, im going with Russia.
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 07:15 AM Winning twice in a row against team that will surely come more determined hmmm..
It all depends whether russia can turn one gear up also...Defence still has some lazy lapses and PP is bad...With those 2 things imporoved a little and attitude from the first game i predict 4-2 Russia...Otherwise 3-1 USA :)
Smart Alek 09-07-2004, 08:05 AM The Finns are facing huge dissent in the dressing room, plus coaching problems.
Interesting, I haven't heard anything about this.
Has anybody else?
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 08:12 AM It depends who the US puts on the ice...
Mr Brownstone 09-07-2004, 08:18 AM Interesting, I haven't heard anything about this.
Has anybody else?
You haven't heard about how Niinimaa walked out on the team because of the coach?
go kim johnsson 514 09-07-2004, 09:38 AM The winner of this game plays the winner of Canada/Slovakia. This is not an IIHF event so it is not an IIHF elimination format.
DŽAlessandro 09-07-2004, 09:53 AM Team Russia 5-1. If Russia can play like they play last time against USA.....at least i hope they win. GO RUSSIA:handclap:
flamesfan01800 09-07-2004, 09:53 AM The winner of this game plays the winner of Canada/Slovakia. This is not an IIHF event so it is not an IIHF elimination format.
I thought they crossed over after their quarterfinal. Actually I am pretty sure they do. If Canada wins they play the winner of the sweden/czeck game while Finland plays the winner of the States/Russia game
Rabid Ranger 09-07-2004, 10:08 AM our team is just to damn slow old and cancerous tumors (Hull & Tkachoke) to beat the Russians, I'm actually hoping the Russians crush us, to get USA Hockey to think outside the box
We beat them in Columbus. Granted, it was an exhibition, but it's still a win. The U.S. as a team is not slow, rather it's been the work ethic and level of determination that's had to change. I think that was evidenced in the Slovakia game. If the U.S. puts the pedal to the metal they can win this game for sure.
ALF AmericanLionsFan 09-07-2004, 10:31 AM Going with a 3 -2 U.S. win. I read that Hull is a scratch again tonight. Let's go !!!!
Rabid Ranger 09-07-2004, 10:35 AM Going with a 3 -2 U.S. win. I read that Hull is a scratch again tonight. Let's go !!!!
Where did you read that at?
ALF AmericanLionsFan 09-07-2004, 10:38 AM Where did you read that at?
I read it here http://www.freep.com/sports/redwings/line7e_20040907.htm
ALF AmericanLionsFan 09-07-2004, 10:47 AM I wonder if J.R. is going to be apart of the ESPN telecast tonight? He wasn't Friday, but as dorky as he is I hope he is there(unless he is bad luck).
Rabid Ranger 09-07-2004, 11:00 AM I read it here http://www.freep.com/sports/redwings/line7e_20040907.htm
I hate to say this, but it's probably for the best he's not out there.
TORRUS 09-07-2004, 11:21 AM 4-2 Russia (two goals in the third period). Russians are on a roll and like someone has said USA is just too slow.
Tuggy 09-07-2004, 11:30 AM The winner of this game plays the winner of Canada/Slovakia. This is not an IIHF event so it is not an IIHF elimination format.
Nope.
They do cross over.
Rabid Ranger 09-07-2004, 12:30 PM 4-2 Russia (two goals in the third period). Russians are on a roll and like someone has said USA is just too slow.
How do you explain the game in Columbus, or the victory over a younger, seemingly faster Slovak team?
How do you explain the game in Columbus, or the victory over a younger, seemingly faster Slovak team?
The game in Columbus was jut an exhibition game.
They beat the Slovaks by a slimmer margin than Russia and Canada did.
:teach:
Slick Nick 09-07-2004, 01:18 PM lacks of Latvian fans here...
16-0 USA
Saruj Latvija
Markov 09-07-2004, 01:25 PM I feel a big disappointment from the Russian squad is coming. :cry:
4-2 USA
popperbolt* 09-07-2004, 01:31 PM 3-2 Russia OT
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 01:31 PM It's going to be a very hard game to win for Russia, nothing like the first meeting last week. The US even with slow and aging forwards will play desperate and use the momentum to get the W.
But I'm not making predictions, too scared for that.
CNote 09-07-2004, 02:06 PM This should be a great game!...thank god BB5 repeats at midnight ;)
Russia 4 (OT)
USA 3
IMHO Russia will take it all.
-cnote-
Rabid Ranger 09-07-2004, 02:43 PM The game in Columbus was jut an exhibition game.
They beat the Slovaks by a slimmer margin than Russia and Canada did.
:teach:
My point is even with an "aged and decrepit" line-up the U.S. has proven, if it sticks to a system can win.
BruinsGirl 09-07-2004, 03:07 PM Another dillemma for me... I hope whichever team playes better and more determined wins!
Both wins will be good enough for me I guess... :handclap:
Douggy 09-07-2004, 04:17 PM Russia 4 - USA 2
DevMod9 09-07-2004, 04:39 PM I wouldn't be surprised to see the U.S. forwards take their play up notch. They will have to play stellar to prevent the quick strike capabilities of the Russians from exploiting their porous defensive corps. Puck control, aggressive forechecking and maintaining speed through the blueline will be critical for the U.S. tonight. Its imperative for Ron Wilson to implement a strategy that will bottle the immensely talented Russians in their own zone (much easier said than done:)) . I have a strong suspicion its a one goal game either way.
ALF AmericanLionsFan 09-07-2004, 04:41 PM Can't wait for this game to start. Too bad I have to work again tonight and watch it on tape. :shakehead U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A.!!!!
Islanders4Cups 09-07-2004, 04:47 PM It is assumed that Esche is starting but has anyone seen anything confirming this?
Conando 09-07-2004, 04:57 PM It is assumed that Esche is starting but has anyone seen anything confirming this?
confirmed by the three morons doing the game tonight...Roenick, Clement and Thorne
miss hockey 09-07-2004, 04:58 PM i think that russia will win 3-1, when playing they're in a class above the americans.. :yo:
i think also that russia is better apponent for finland, as we always play well against russia. :lol:
Islanders4Cups 09-07-2004, 05:01 PM Found it on TSN
http://www.tsn.ca/world_cup_hockey/news_story.asp?id=97871
Robert Esche, in the nets for losses to Canada and Russia in the preliminary round, was to get the goaltending start. Rick DiPietro played against Slovakia.
"It's status quo, except our goalie is different,'' Wilson said of his lineup for the elimination game against Russia. "We did what we needed to do (last Friday) and came up with a lineup with some balance."
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 05:02 PM Really?
WC 96 : QF Russia 5, Finland 0
OG 98 : Russia 4, Finland 3
OG 98 : SF Russia 7, Finland 4
OG 02 : Finland 3, Russia 1
that's 3 losses in 4 games
miss hockey 09-07-2004, 05:08 PM if i may say, i didnt say that we will win for sure but in my opinion finland will play better agains russia then usa..
Mr. Penguin 09-07-2004, 05:16 PM I hope Russia will humiliate team USA. It's team Russia's time to show what they really are able to do.
5 - 1 Russia!
CREW99AW 09-07-2004, 05:34 PM both times I've made a prediction,team USA has lost,so I'll avoid the predictions :D
Let's go's team USA :banana:
Preds 09-07-2004, 06:18 PM Russia 3
USA 0
I wonder if there will be more Canadians or more Americans watching this game tonight. It would be interesting to see the television ratings afterwards.
I'm Canadian, but I'm still totally looking forward to this game. I dont know who I'll cheer for yet, just as long as they tire each other out.
Teezax 09-07-2004, 06:20 PM I have a good feeling about the US tonight, I think Esche will keep them in it enough for his team to win it with a decisive goal in the 3rd period.
3-2
USA
Winner by Guerin in the 3rd.
Bennysflyers16 09-07-2004, 06:35 PM 3-2 USA !!!! Russia will come out flying, but USA will overcome the barrage and win ! Esche shines once more . :bow:
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 07:24 PM Esche scares the hell out of me. So does Guerin and Takchuk and many others.
ZDogg 09-07-2004, 07:26 PM I used my psychic powers and came up with this prediction.
4-2 Russia
Kovalev
Datsyuk
Kovalchuk
Samsonov
Drury
Tkachuk
:deadhorse The russians will be on Esche like a rented Mule. He won't be able to stop them all this time.
Russia has so far been the best team after Canada in the tournament. I think they'll go past the US with ease.
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 07:36 PM Russia has so far been the best team after Canada in the tournament. I think they'll go past the US with ease.
WHy did u have to say that...now they are doomed :shakehead
P.S Nothing is given with russians :teach:
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 07:37 PM Whatever happens I'm glad with what I've seen from the Russians so far. I expected to see some weak bunch of players (nothing like a team), but I was really wrong, the atmosphere around the team is great, no stupid individual plays.
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 07:38 PM WHy did u have to say that...now they are doomed :shakehead
P.S Nothing is given with russians :teach:
I second that :cry:
WHy did u have to say that...now they are doomed :shakehead
P.S Nothing is given with russians :teach:
I said thr Czechs would win against Sweden, but that didn't doom them did it!? :cry:
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 07:41 PM Whatever happens I'm glad with what I've seen from the Russians so far. I expected to see some weak bunch of players (nothing like a team), but I was really wrong, the atmosphere around the team is great, no stupid individual plays.
I agree..Defence is still suspect and PP is still bad but otherwise this team showed me the best play so far in terms of chemistry since 1993...I hope this is really the turning point for russian hockey
burnlikestars 09-07-2004, 07:51 PM I want USA to win, but Im also glad that I will finally get to see this Ovechkin play.
Don'tcry4mejanhrdina 09-07-2004, 07:58 PM Russia will win.
rival 09-07-2004, 08:02 PM Anywhere to listen online tonight?
Looks like Ovechkin is playing. They showed him in warmup.
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 08:12 PM TverDOVsky!!!!
Papa Smurf 09-07-2004, 08:15 PM What's with all the empty seats in the State of Hockey?
John Flyers Fan 09-07-2004, 08:18 PM TverDOVsky!!!!
no no no you've got it all wrong it's
Tver DOR ski .... :lol
Mr. Penguin 09-07-2004, 08:18 PM Yeah! Look at all those empty seats. And the atmosphere... :shakehead
Another reason why I want Russia to win the game. Please humiliate team USA!
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 08:26 PM no no no you've got it all wrong it's
Tver DOR ski .... :lol
:banghead: :mad: :banghead: :mad:
AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Papa Smurf 09-07-2004, 08:27 PM Tkachuk's ripped slab on the back of his helmet is reeealy annoying me!
justapantherfan 09-07-2004, 08:28 PM Keith just scored for USA. :handclap:
HF_Rangers 09-07-2004, 08:28 PM GOOOOOOAL!!!!
USA 1, Russia 0
See that Gary was practicing his Italian instead of the correct pronounciation of Tverdovsky... I hope ppl noticed he said "mucha grazie, mucha grazie" as they cut to break.
Papa Smurf 09-07-2004, 08:39 PM hahaha... "Pimple on an elephants rear end."!
HF_Rangers 09-07-2004, 08:41 PM Liked how Bill Clement talked about how they want to pass it to "Alexei Kovalchuk"
Come on Russia!
There's still enough time!!!
Esche is saving USA's butts once again. :banghead:
thrill_me_mogilny 09-07-2004, 08:51 PM Shaibu Russia Shaibu!
I really hope russia can take advantage of Chelios temper right now.
Elyoric 09-07-2004, 08:54 PM Anyone know if this is being broadcast on any internet radio?
-E
windowlicker 09-07-2004, 09:00 PM Tkachuk with #2. Nice.
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 09:01 PM Tkachuk again left alone in front of the net.
:cry:
Markov 09-07-2004, 09:01 PM We're done. :help:
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 09:02 PM We're done. :help:
It's over ...
TVanek26* 09-07-2004, 09:02 PM JR as a broadcaster>>>>JR as a player
The Frugal Gourmet 09-07-2004, 09:02 PM I think the rumors of Modano's demise have been greatly exagerrated. Clearly the best American hockey player sill...
littleHossa 09-07-2004, 09:07 PM Here is what I got out of this match so far, Datsyuk rocks! He possesses everything, except maybe a shot like Kovalchuk. His passes are amazing and he's smart on the ice.
Kasparitis is also amazing, he roughs it up every game 2 or 3 times with another player, always delivers 1 or 2 really good hits.
And finally, no wonder that Tkachuk is said to be the best at deflecting the puck in the NHL.
go kim johnsson 514 09-07-2004, 09:07 PM One of the Russians might want to put a stick on Tkachuk.
thrill_me_mogilny 09-07-2004, 09:10 PM It's over ...
Don't give up so fast.
SIBIR 09-07-2004, 09:10 PM it is NOT over ...
Winston Wolf 09-07-2004, 09:12 PM Penalty shot!
Mighty Duck Fan 09-07-2004, 09:13 PM Here we go...
Byrgzalov with a save..
Whew, this game isn't over...
2-1 USA.
go kim johnsson 514 09-07-2004, 09:15 PM The pace of this game has picked up dramatically
John Flyers Fan 09-07-2004, 09:20 PM I think the rumors of Modano's demise have been greatly exagerrated. Clearly the best American hockey player sill...
With Modano it's never been about skill ... just about desire.
The US needs to have him at his best.
Damn, I wish I could watch this game!! :(
SIBIR 09-07-2004, 09:24 PM Damn, I wish I could watch this game!! :(
where are you in germany?
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 09:24 PM The pace of this game has picked up dramatically
Russia is controlling the pace now.
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 09:27 PM Russia is controlling the pace now.
IF they could only score also :p:
Herby 09-07-2004, 09:27 PM Kono playing a season with Forsberg has really learned how to dive.
That was brutal.
Legionnaire 09-07-2004, 09:28 PM TverDOVsky!!!!
No ****!!!! Gary Thorne always says DORsky. I would think someone would have told that idiot by now.
where are you in germany?
Hannover.
Btw, who scored for Russia?
Legionnaire 09-07-2004, 09:30 PM Hannover.
Btw, who scored for Russia?
Afinosankov. I probably spelled it wrong, but he was a rookie for Tampa this year.
beeker16 09-07-2004, 09:31 PM ovechkin in!?
Drake1588 09-07-2004, 09:32 PM ovechkin in!?
Yes, and +1 on fourth line ice time so far. Physical, when he gets ice time anyway.
Mr. Penguin 09-07-2004, 09:32 PM Afinosankov. I probably spelled it wrong, but he was a rookie for Tampa this year.
Hmm... I guess it's spelled Afanshenkov... or something. :D
2nd period over. 2-1 Go Russia!
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 09:34 PM ovechkin in!?
Yes. Invisible.
GoingGoingGagner 09-07-2004, 09:34 PM Just ended for me, I think it's Afanasenkov.
Markov 09-07-2004, 09:35 PM It's Afanasenkov
EroCaps 09-07-2004, 09:37 PM Yes. Invisible.
Are you kidding? He's had very little icetime, and still manages to be on the ice for the Russian goal.
puskarm 09-07-2004, 09:37 PM I always thought it was pronounced BREETS ga lov not brits GA lov
:dunno:
I Hate You All* 09-07-2004, 09:40 PM The USA is going to lose it in the third. They're nothing without the Golden Badass. :hyper:
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 09:41 PM Are you kidding? He's had very little icetime, and still manages to be on the ice for the Russian goal.
Which he played no part in. It was all Chubarov and Afanasankov.
He's been totally invisible.
Til the End of Time 09-07-2004, 09:42 PM Are you kidding? He's had very little icetime, and still manages to be on the ice for the Russian goal.
Don't be a homer; he has been fairly invisible. But that's nothing to be ashamed of and should have been expected.
supernova 09-07-2004, 09:42 PM Anyone catch that sound bite of one of the players cursing the ref during the 2nd? That was hilarious. CBC had it loud and clear.
littleHossa 09-07-2004, 09:45 PM Don't be a homer; he has been fairly invisible. But that's nothing to be ashamed of and should have been expected.
He did have very little ice-time, last game he got 9 minutes and managed to make the most of it, this game how it's going he might get enforcer type minutes.
MissNY 09-07-2004, 09:49 PM Anyone catch that sound bite of one of the players cursing the ref during the 2nd? That was hilarious. CBC had it loud and clear.
Was it in English or Russian? :lol:
littleHossa 09-07-2004, 09:50 PM Was it in English or Russian? :lol:
It was an american who said it, it included the word b**** and some other ones, it struck me how the atheles talked, very good and fast combination of words.
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 09:51 PM That was a beauty. :eek:
Tuggy 09-07-2004, 09:52 PM Zubrus ties it up. Yashin with the assist.
Here we go, this game is going down to the wire.
Legionnaire 09-07-2004, 09:53 PM The Yashin, Zubrus, Frolov line has easily been Russias best in this tournament.
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 09:54 PM Zubrus ties it up. Yashin with the assist.
WOW... :banana: GO russia go!!
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 09:55 PM Scott Gomez Scores!!!
windowlicker 09-07-2004, 09:55 PM THats what Im talking about. Gomez! 3-2
YES!!.. Thachuk!!
Legionnaire 09-07-2004, 09:55 PM Go Scotty Gomez!!!!
What a game Tkachuck is having today too!
Legionnaire 09-07-2004, 09:56 PM Hat Trick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 09:56 PM Tkachuk With The Hat!!!!
4-2!!!
Wohoo, great!
I read the game isn't sold out.
Exactly how expansive are the tickets?
This is Minnesota, so it's certainly not a matter of interest in the game there so I guess it must be the prices.
Prices shouldn't be that high, not only the rich should have the possibility to go to this games.
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 09:57 PM :cry: this is horror ...
Hattrick...Tkachuk.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. :shakehead
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 09:58 PM Wohoo, great!
I read the game isn't sold out.
Exactly how expansive are the tickets?
This is Minnesota, so it's certainly not a matter of interest in the game there so I guess it must be the prices.
Prices shouldn't be that high, not only the rich should have the possibility to go to this games.
It sure looks sold out....
windowlicker 09-07-2004, 09:58 PM Grit is grit, but its skil that wins it all in the end. 4-2..
Mike York should have made this team ahead of Langenbrunner, Blake, Halpren, Konowalchuk.
The Frugal Gourmet 09-07-2004, 10:01 PM Grit is grit, but its skil that wins it all in the end. 4-2..
Mike York should have made this team ahead of Langenbrunner, Blake, Halpren, Konowalchuk.
All those guys you just tangentially dissed are having an awesome game.
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 10:01 PM Grit is grit, but its skil that wins it all in the end. 4-2..
Mike York should have made this team ahead of Langenbrunner, Blake, Halpren, Konowalchuk.
No he shouldn't have... Konowalchuk - Halpern - Langenbrunner have all been great and Blake has been solid. I disagree there.
It's grit that wins games. Skill helps, but in the NHL game, grit wins.
go kim johnsson 514 09-07-2004, 10:01 PM for some reason the russians are afraid of keith tkachuk because they refuse to go anywhere near him
Mr. Penguin 09-07-2004, 10:03 PM Nooo!
Please Russia, score!
:banghead: :cry:
The Frugal Gourmet 09-07-2004, 10:04 PM for some reason the russians are afraid of keith tkachuk because they refuse to go anywhere near him
What's happened a couple times is that Modano is getting a jump on their defense and drawing extra coverage to himself. Russia is not that stupid or weak.
windowlicker 09-07-2004, 10:04 PM All those guys you just tangentially dissed are having an awesome game.
I didnt diss anyone. They are having a great game/tournament.
Im still questioning some of Pleau's decisions. Though if they win this and keep advancing, I guess he will look like a genius.
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:06 PM for some reason the russians are afraid of keith tkachuk because they refuse to go anywhere near him
Yep :banghead:
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 10:06 PM Why i am so deppresed when russia losses ... I will be needing pshotherapy soon,this is going on for 11 years...
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:07 PM yeah well you can't expect to beat the US at home twice in a row ... it's like the playoffs in the NHL, you start the series on the road and you try to win 1 game, not 2, because it's impossible.
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 10:08 PM yeah well you can't expect to beat the US at home twice in a row ... it's like the playoffs in the NHL, you start the series on the road and you try to win 1 game, not 2, because it's impossible.
Yea i agree,i knew it would be hard to win USA twice on their field
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:08 PM now Kovy scores, finally
Legionnaire 09-07-2004, 10:08 PM 4-3 Russia Kovalchuck gets on the board.
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:08 PM Kovalchuk 4-3
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:10 PM I don't get it : is it so hard to score on every shot or what? :snide:
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 10:10 PM HOw long till the end?
Drake1588 09-07-2004, 10:11 PM Eight minutes left, 4-3, one minute left in Russian PP
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:11 PM oh by the way I stopped watching the game when it was 0-2, I think it helps the game of hockey, not just the Russians
Mr. Penguin 09-07-2004, 10:11 PM All right! Ilya!
Things look good for Russia! Now just 2 more goals...
Drake1588 09-07-2004, 10:12 PM Even strength, and I can breathe again.
wilka, I hope you're not watching now are you?
Com on Russia, you can do it!!!!! :banana:
EroCaps 09-07-2004, 10:15 PM Don't be a homer; he has been fairly invisible. But that's nothing to be ashamed of and should have been expected.
I've been watching closely. He's had minimal ice time. I'm not being a homer.
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 10:15 PM COme on Russia ,please .. i dont have money for therapy bills ...
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:20 PM wilka, I hope you're not watching now are you?
Com on Russia, you can do it!!!!! :banana:
Of course I'm not, they'd allow 3 goals instantly :teach:
Markov 09-07-2004, 10:22 PM 2 minutes left :cry:
Come on Russia! :mad:
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:22 PM no
we will thrash you 09-07-2004, 10:23 PM 4th goal for Tkachuk
Markov 09-07-2004, 10:23 PM That's it I'm going out drinking
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 10:23 PM Is anyone else astounded by Paul Martin's exceptionally solid play tonight, or is it just me? He's been awesome.
Moskau 09-07-2004, 10:24 PM A game like that couldn't have come to a more arrogant POS than Keith Tkachuk
Pavel 09-07-2004, 10:24 PM Tkachuk!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZBORNAJA 09-07-2004, 10:24 PM That's it I'm going out drinking
U can find me on secured section of mental institution...Bye friends :cry: :help:
Drake1588 09-07-2004, 10:25 PM A game like that couldn't have come to a more arrogant POS than Keith Tkachuk
That's what makes it so perfect. And funny. :banana:
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:25 PM I'm so tired of this bull$hit :cry:
Hate to be the censor, but let the Filter do the work. Samkow.
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 10:26 PM Keith Tkachuk - 5
Team Russia - 3
Game over.
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:26 PM U can find me on secured section of mental institution...Bye friends :cry: :help:
I'm coming with you :lol:
go kim johnsson 514 09-07-2004, 10:26 PM Keith Tkachuk...he's not too bad.
5 points
Mr.Brownov* 09-07-2004, 10:26 PM *** Kasparaitus cause the Russians the game IMO!And I hate Keith Tkachuk! :mad:
Reilly311 09-07-2004, 10:27 PM the fogies win!
and it wasn't even a sell out in "the state of hockey". :lol
HockeyIsMyHeroin 09-07-2004, 10:27 PM *** Kasparaitus cause the Russians the game IMO!And I hate Keith Tkachuk! :mad:
Me too
They should give tkachuk a drug test :p
X0ssbar 09-07-2004, 10:27 PM Is anyone else astounded by Paul Martin's exceptionally solid play tonight, or is it just me? He's been awesome.
I personally was VERY impressed with Martin. Solid, solid play by the youngster. Even though Blake missed a PS - I thought he added some excellent energy to the US squad and had a great game as well.
SouthFloridaPensFan 09-07-2004, 10:28 PM WOOHOO!! Bring on Canada!!
Russian fans must wish Khabibulin had decided to play. Oh well, those are the breaks.
Most entertaining game of the quarterfinals yet. :handclap:
Mr.Brownov* 09-07-2004, 10:29 PM WOOHOO!! Bring on Canada!!
Don't worry,they'll be ready!
Chaos 09-07-2004, 10:29 PM Is anyone else astounded by Paul Martin's exceptionally solid play tonight, or is it just me? He's been awesome.
Put it this way...I didnt 'notice' him defensively...that can only be a good thing...Blake also played a pretty good game, although he could use some help on penalty shots.
Markov 09-07-2004, 10:29 PM I'm so tired of this bull$hit :cry:
Me too! This happens all the ****ing time. I sometimes hate being a Russian fan. :banghead:
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:29 PM WOOHOO!! Bring on Canada!!
They'll be happy to beat USA, again. :D
Mr. Penguin 09-07-2004, 10:30 PM Noo! **** **** noo! :banghead:
I hate this... oh well, Finland better win. I don't want to see another CAN-USA final game.
avalanche_country 09-07-2004, 10:30 PM So nice !!!!! :yo:
what an awesome line for USA tonite :banana:
reonick is great at the commentary ...I love it
guinness 09-07-2004, 10:31 PM I'm shocked, of all the players to actually show up for a big game: Tkachuk
Impressive night for him, 5 points, hope that line keeps it up.
SopelFan 09-07-2004, 10:31 PM Tkachuk can't just trash a hotel room, he can also score goals!
Chaos 09-07-2004, 10:31 PM Roenick needs to go into broadcasting whenever he finishes playing....love the enthusiasm.
Spaceace 09-07-2004, 10:32 PM They'll be happy to beat USA, again. :D
Just like in '96 huh??? :joker:
The Frugal Gourmet 09-07-2004, 10:32 PM That top line for the U.S. freaking rocks.
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:32 PM Just like in '96 huh??? :joker:
Just like Tuesday. :joker:
Spaceace 09-07-2004, 10:33 PM Tkachuk RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bow: :yo: :banana: :bow: :handclap:
Chaos 09-07-2004, 10:33 PM Just like Tuesday. :joker:
Yeah and Russia just beat the US a few days ago too...and look what just happened...lets not turn this into a US/Canada bashing.
Frogurt 09-07-2004, 10:34 PM Why bring on Canada?
Doesn't Canada have to win tomorrow first, then beat the Czech Republic, then the US has to beat Finland?
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 10:34 PM Just like Tuesday. :joker:
I love the Canadian cockiness. It makes winning the gold and handing them the silver that much more satisfying.
Chaos 09-07-2004, 10:34 PM Why bring on Canada?
Doesn't Canada have to win tomorrow first, then beat the Czech Republic, then the US has to beat Finland?
Something like that...
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:34 PM Here you come US-CAN final ... this is the last time I ever watch a Canada Cup game.
I Hate You All* 09-07-2004, 10:35 PM UGH!
I wanted to play Russia so bad.
I hate Keith Tkachuk so much. I've always hated Tkachuk. I hope Foote destroys him.
If Golden Badass scored four goals I wouldn't care. Ditto for Roenick. If Chelios scored four I would be laughing my ass of and loving every minute of it. But Tkachuk? Up yours, buddy. :p: :mad:
Classic Devil 09-07-2004, 10:35 PM Why bring on Canada?
Doesn't Canada have to win tomorrow first, then beat the Czech Republic, then the US has to beat Finland?
Yep.
Bring it, Finland.
:beatup:
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:35 PM Yeah and Russia just beat the US a few days ago too...and look what just happened...lets not turn this into a US/Canada bashing.
Canada beat them both; I'm not worried about the Americans at all.
rulin 09-07-2004, 10:35 PM I can't believe it's possible, but I despise Tkachuk even more...
Well, I was only able to watch the last period, but that was damn exciting. I wish I could've watched the whole game. But what was up with the crowd? Pretty lame...
Can't wait to watch USA get their ass kicked by Finland. :) ;)
Frogurt 09-07-2004, 10:36 PM I love the Canadian cockiness. It makes winning the gold and handing them the silver that much more satisfying.
There is no silver :)
At least, I don't think so, because there's no bronze medal game. It's da Cup or nuttin'.
Noo! **** **** noo! :banghead:
I hate this... oh well, Finland better win. I don't want to see another CAN-USA final game.
My feelings exactly!!
roast 09-07-2004, 10:36 PM Here you come US-CAN final ... this is the last time I ever watch a Canada Cup game.
why?
X0ssbar 09-07-2004, 10:36 PM Why bring on Canada?
Doesn't Canada have to win tomorrow first, then beat the Czech Republic, then the US has to beat Finland?
Good point - lets not get ahead ourselves. In single elimination play anything can happen - just ask the Sweeds.
MissNY 09-07-2004, 10:36 PM Wow! That was amazing! I was not hopeful at all before tonight's game, but five points from Tkachuk. :bow:
Go USA! :yo:
Rob Paxon 09-07-2004, 10:36 PM Here you come US-CAN final ... this is the last time I ever watch a Canada Cup game.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Vic Rattlehead 09-07-2004, 10:36 PM I love the Canadian cockiness. It makes winning the gold and handing them the silver that much more satisfying.
No gold or silver at the world cup, only a trophy. You must be thinking about the Olympics, which the Canadians won.
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:37 PM No gold or silver at the world cup, only a trophy. You must be thinking about the Olympics, which the Canadians won.
:lol
Shoalzie 09-07-2004, 10:38 PM Clutch effort from Tkachuk tonight...great to know that Esche didn't have to be the best player on the ice for them to win. Intriguing matchup ahead with the Finns. The Americans go up against the MVP in this tournament so far in Kiprusoff. I hope they sell out Xcel and rock the joint...looking forward to Thursday.
Vic Rattlehead 09-07-2004, 10:38 PM Wow! That was amazing! I was not hopeful at all before tonight's game, but five goals from Tkachuk. :bow:
Go USA! :yo:
Seriously, five goals? If so, the other teamates have to show up :joker: (just kidding)
guinness 09-07-2004, 10:39 PM :lol
Yes, and how many times did they win it between 1952 and 2002?
Frogurt 09-07-2004, 10:40 PM I predict a Slovakia-Czech Republic final, and everybody will have egg on their face :)
Mr.Brownov* 09-07-2004, 10:40 PM 4 g 1 a from smiley
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:41 PM Yes, and how many times did they win it between 1952 and 2002?
Talk about something recent, instead of decades ago.
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:42 PM Talk about something recent, instead of decades ago.
5-2 :yo:
2-1 :yo:
I'm not worried about the Americans.
DevMod9 09-07-2004, 10:43 PM Seeing Adam Foote writhe in pain, preferably by the actions of a U.S. player, will make my tournament. That dirty ******* is the Tkachuk of the Canadian team. :handclap:
wilka91* 09-07-2004, 10:43 PM why?
Because it's always the same story.
What's the point of playing, if, whatever you do in the round robin, your opponent gets home ice advantage? At least if all the games were played in Canada ...
but I'm done with this.
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:43 PM Adam Foote owns Keith Tkachuk.
SopelFan 09-07-2004, 10:43 PM 5-2 :yo:
2-1 :yo:
I'm not worried about the Americans.
Would you stop parading around and creating international feuds? There is still a Slovakia game to be played.
Reilly311 09-07-2004, 10:44 PM roast, you stole my avatar.
TheBigBadB 09-07-2004, 10:44 PM 5-2 :yo:
2-1 :yo:
I'm not worried about the Americans.
Correct me if I am wrong but didnt the USA team beat Canada in one of the pre tournament games?
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:44 PM Would you stop parading around and creating international feuds? There is still a Slovakia game to be played.
Boohoo
Vic Rattlehead 09-07-2004, 10:44 PM Because it's always the same story.
What's the point of playing, if, whatever you do in the round robin, your opponent gets home ice advantage? At least if all the games were played in Canada ...
but I'm done with this.
Sore loser plain and simple. You have been whining throughout the whole tournament. :nopity:
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:45 PM Correct me if I am wrong but didnt the USA team beat Canada in one of the pre tournament games?
Keyword: "exhibition"
WOOHOO!! Bring on Canada!!
Actually they play Finland.
Knucklez 09-07-2004, 10:46 PM Wow, the US is the biggest one-line team I've ever seen.
Guerin-Modano-Tkachuk does everything.
burnlikestars 09-07-2004, 10:46 PM Team USA has to step it up, they cant expect to win with a One-line team. Here's to hoping that Tkachuk will rub off on some of his teammates.
TheBigBadB 09-07-2004, 10:46 PM Keyword: "exhibition"
Still its anyone's ball game. Dont get too confident. Its one game and out.
I predict a Slovakia-Czech Republic final, and everybody will have egg on their face :)
That would be great but it would be even greater if Finland could make into the final somehow!
But it would also be great of course if the Czech would win it in memory of Hlinka!
roast 09-07-2004, 10:47 PM roast, you stole my avatar.
Buts its so increadibly great, if you don't mind.
Burnaby_Joe* 09-07-2004, 10:47 PM Still its anyone's ball game. Dont get too confident. Its one game and out.
Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to get some of you Americans all hyped up. ;)
burnlikestars 09-07-2004, 10:47 PM Im hoping for a USA-Czech showdown
Badman 09-07-2004, 10:47 PM Because it's always the same story.
What's the point of playing, if, whatever you do in the round robin, your opponent gets home ice advantage? At least if all the games were played in Canada ...
but I'm done with this.
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Totally agree... Having North-American referees is also somewhat fishy...
But unless the jetlagged Fins or Czechs cause an upset, the NHL and NHLPA will get their showcase CAN-USA final, which is really the point of the whole torunament. Give me the Olympics any day...
Badman
TheBigBadB 09-07-2004, 10:48 PM Wow, the US is the biggest one-line team I've ever seen.
Guerin-Modano-Tkachuk does everything.
Its a good line though..but your right they need more production from the rest...especially weight and amonte...
Reilly311 09-07-2004, 10:49 PM Buts its so increadibly great, if you don't mind.
I'm well aware of the greatness that is Mark Madden. You could have at least asked ;)
DevMod9 09-07-2004, 10:49 PM Its a good line though..but your right they need more production from the rest...especially weight and amonte...
Amonte has fallen off the face of the earth. Where have the wheels gone the last two years?
TheBigBadB 09-07-2004, 10:49 PM Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to get some of you Americans all hyped up. ;)
I think its all gravy for us from now on...many including myself didnt see them winning this one tonight...they did, they march on...I'm happy but I would be lying if I said I wasnt surprised.
Reilly311 09-07-2004, 10:50 PM -----------------------------------
Totally agree... Having North-American referees is also somewhat fishy...
I started a topic on this last night but it was ruined as usual. This World Cup is a joke.
TheBigBadB 09-07-2004, 10:51 PM Amonte has fallen off the face of the earth. Where have the wheels gone the last two years?
He still has the wheels, but nothing is turning in his head. Can a player get dumber over the years? :joker:
burnlikestars 09-07-2004, 10:51 PM I started a topic on this last night but it was ruined as usual. This World Cup is a joke.
who cares, I think its pretty darn entertaining.
Reilly311 09-07-2004, 10:52 PM I would have rather have seen Ryan Malone instead of Amonte. I guess they were going for experience though.
TheBigBadB 09-07-2004, 10:53 PM I would have rather have seen Ryan Malone instead of Amonte. I guess they were going for experience though.
Me too I like Malone. I think Amonte is finished..He just doesnt have the scoring skills he use to have.
Reilly311 09-07-2004, 10:54 PM I think its pretty darn entertaining.
yeah, but it could have been way more entertaining for you
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