Hull storms out of practise!

Joe_Sakic#19
09-05-2004, 06:00 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/world_cup_hockey/news_story.asp?id=97683

golfmade
09-05-2004, 06:02 PM
"I don't give a *bleep* about the fans any more."

Yikes, tell us how you really feel.

rulin
09-05-2004, 06:03 PM
I was just about to post this.

``I don't give a (deleted) about the fans anymore,'' said Hull.

I know you're pissed, Hull, but don't be a jackass to the ones who pay your outrageous salary.

Russian_fanatic
09-05-2004, 06:04 PM
WOW!

``I don't give a (deleted) about the fans anymore,'' said Hull.

Hull is going to be a big target now :D Well Hull you had your chance with Team Canada.

Zednik
09-05-2004, 06:04 PM
and I don't give a *bleep* about Brett Hull. Retire.

lux_interior
09-05-2004, 06:05 PM
and I don't give a *bleep* about Brett Hull. Retire.
:lol: :handclap: Good one.

guinness
09-05-2004, 06:06 PM
"I don't give a *bleep* about the fans any more."

Yikes, tell us how you really feel.

Ugh, Foot in mouth quote of the day.

Well at least we know were the fans stand in the CBA negotiations.

Only if he was playing as well as he sulked.

golfmade
09-05-2004, 06:07 PM
Well at least we know were the fans stand in the CBA negotiations.

Only if he was playing as well as he sulked.

Indeed... :(

Kyri
09-05-2004, 06:08 PM
and I don't give a *bleep* about Brett Hull. Retire.

:lol

Rscorpio
09-05-2004, 06:10 PM
We dont give a **** about u Brett.........traitor :mad:

Frogurt
09-05-2004, 06:11 PM
Maybe he can play for Germany now?

kruezer
09-05-2004, 06:13 PM
and I don't give a *bleep* about Brett Hull. Retire.

:lol Man, that was awesome.

Labs 4 Vezina
09-05-2004, 06:16 PM
This guy can't catch a break. First he was "in the crease", now he's on the Coyotes, he gets scratched for Team USA, doesn't care about the fans.. He's really on a roll there.

Im not a big fan of the Hull Family.

lux_interior
09-05-2004, 06:20 PM
Yeah, it's looking like the Coyotes signing Hull wasn't such a big catch after all. Still early to write him off. But I'm not expecting big things from him this season.

EroCaps
09-05-2004, 06:21 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/world_cup_hockey/news_story.asp?id=97683

The Sept. 15th deadline is 10 days away and the NHLPA has yet to make a proposal for a new CBA. Does it appear as though they care about the fans?

MrMastodonFarm*
09-05-2004, 06:24 PM
Good pick up Pheonix :help:

Dolemite
09-05-2004, 06:24 PM
It serves him right. He's been faking his way through the tournament and to say his attitude sucks at this moment in time is an understatement. He's gotta earn his way back on the ice and leaving practice like he did isn't the way to get back on the ice.

The Coaching staff made the right choice in saying that 'we're here to win the whole thing and we want the players who reflect that attitude'. Until Hull's attitude changes, let him gather splinters on the bench. Credit Ron Wilson with having the cohones to correctly scratch him.


Put up or shut up Hull.

ATG
09-05-2004, 06:26 PM
Up your's Hull your a traitor and a whinner :thumbu: (try the middle finger)

Papa Smurf
09-05-2004, 06:29 PM
Hes the same guy who reffered to Canadian hockey fans as "morons". This just adds to how much I hate his bloody guts. :mad:


My god, I hate Hull with a passion.

thrill_me_mogilny
09-05-2004, 06:30 PM
Bye bye Brett. We're sticking skates on Terry the pig.

NYRangers
09-05-2004, 06:32 PM
You Canadains can have him back. I dont know why you boo everytime he touches the puck. Take him.

Joe_Sakic#19
09-05-2004, 06:33 PM
You Canadains can have him back. I dont know why you boo everytime he touches the puck. Take him.

We don't want him.

Rob
09-05-2004, 06:34 PM
Do you think Wilson will scratch Hull for their quarterfinal game?

Maybe Hull will just go AWOL on the team?

Papa Smurf
09-05-2004, 06:34 PM
We don't want him.


Give him to the Mongolian national team. Please.

Enoch
09-05-2004, 06:37 PM
We dont give a **** about u Brett.........traitor :mad:

I think he was refering to (edit), such as yourself.

This article is just an attempt to sensationalize. Brett leaves ten minutes earlier than most of his teammates do? Big freaking deal, it was likely extra practice time anyways....TSN runs articles like this from time to time, with a sensational headline with little in the way to back up the title. Count me unimpressed.

edit: personal attack /predatore

x-bob
09-05-2004, 06:38 PM
Hes the same guy who reffered to Canadian hockey fans as "morons". This just adds to how much I hate his bloody guts. :mad:


My god, I hate Hull with a passion.

I agree.....this guys a moron. He's the player I hate themost. i wish he would just retire already.

thrill_me_mogilny
09-05-2004, 06:38 PM
You Canadains can have him back. I dont know why you boo everytime he touches the puck. Take him.

We'll take him and send him to Michigan in one of those lovely trucks.

explosivethinman
09-05-2004, 06:38 PM
Hull is great. He has sucked in this tournament but I'm glad he is on the team.

Labs 4 Vezina
09-05-2004, 06:43 PM
I think he was refering to (edit), such as yourself.

This article is just an attempt to sensationalize. Brett leaves ten minutes earlier than most of his teammates do? Big freaking deal, it was likely extra practice time anyways....TSN runs articles like this from time to time, with a sensational headline with little in the way to back up the title. Count me unimpressed.

Its about the "I dont give a (bleep) about the fans anymore," not about leaving practice early. Its one thing to be mad about getting scratched, its another to say you don't care about the fans. What did the fans do wrong? Just because the guy can't cut it on Team USA its the fans fault? Why's that? But thanks for letting us know where the NHLPA really stands in the CBA negotiations. Probably none of them care about the fans, which is very depressing.

Oh, and by the way.. Leaving practice 10 minutes early is a big deal. You walk out on your teammates, and I bet you anything it wasn't "extra ice time." He still walked out, and I hope we doesn't wear the USA Jersey again in his life to be
honest. I hope the WHA goes to $hit as well, just to stick it to Brett.

edit: edited out personal attack in quote/predatore

guinness
09-05-2004, 06:45 PM
Why do some of you Canadians fans take things so personally? The way you're acting makes it sound like Hull shot your dog.

Hull is playing poorly, Hull is upset, with a bad attitude, and Hull made a stupid comment. The coaches will either bench him or he'll pull his head out of his ass and shut and play.

explosivethinman
09-05-2004, 06:48 PM
Its about the "I dont give a (bleep) about the fans anymore," not about leaving practice early. Its one thing to be mad about getting scratched, its another to say you don't care about the fans. What did the fans do wrong? Just because the guy can't cut it on Team USA its the fans fault? Why's that? But thanks for letting us know where the NHLPA really stands in the CBA negotiations. Probably none of them care about the fans, which is very depressing.

Oh, and by the way.. Leaving practice 10 minutes early is a big deal. You walk out on your teammates, and I bet you anything it wasn't "extra ice time." He still walked out, and I hope we doesn't wear the USA Jersey again in his life to be honest. I hope the WHA goes to $hit as well, just to stick it to Brett.


Brett Hull leaves practice mad and after declining an interview, a reporter says "do it for the fans", he says he doesn't care about the fans and you have somehow spun that into the reality of cba negotiations? :eek:

chapel113x
09-05-2004, 07:01 PM
AHahahhaha! I love this. First he's rejected from Canada, now the US. Team Germany could always use him.

Hull deserves everything he got. Team USA is better off without this bitter old turncoat.

Conando
09-05-2004, 07:05 PM
Hull family = classless

Douggy
09-05-2004, 07:07 PM
I think Guerin hit the nail on the head. The guy gave reporters plenty to talk about during his career and for once he doesn't want to talk. Give him a break.

King'sPawn
09-05-2004, 07:49 PM
I think Guerin hit the nail on the head. The guy gave reporters plenty to talk about during his career and for once he doesn't want to talk. Give him a break.

It's not the fact he is declining to comment, it's HOW he declines the comment. But apparently he really doesn't care anymore, if those consequences escape him.

Either way, during a time when hockey isn't very popular, ESPECIALLY in the United States, you don't want fans to hear they're unimportant. There's a bigger picture than just "Oh, well, he doesn't want to talk, and it's the media's fault for doing their job and trying to get as much out of him as they can."

Rabid Ranger
09-05-2004, 07:51 PM
While I don't think Hull's comments were tactful, I'm not surprised he's pissed off at the situation. He's a veteran who has alot of pride, and I'm sure being benched and all stings. TSN is just following a strange Canadian pattern of pointing out all that ails Brett Hull, typically throwing out the word "traitor" for good measure. All I can say is if this doesn't motivate Hull, nothing will. I fully expect him to be in the line-up in the quarters, and I think he'll be a differance maker.

ChowsBaby21
09-05-2004, 08:22 PM
Before this whole thing with Hull not playing in the game happend my two year old boy who unfortunately loves Hull (he thinks he looks like him or something)..but anyway I took my son up to Hull to ask for an autograph and Hull's response was "I don't sign **** you're just going to sell it anyway." Give me a break Brett like a two year old really has a concept of selling anything.

Hull is a complete @$$ and needs to remember he wouldn't be doing what he does without the fans, whether he was mad or not it isn't an excuse to say stuff like that. But if you remember back to an ESPN interview he came right out and said he hated the fans so I don't think it was spur of the moment.

Vatican Roulette
09-05-2004, 08:36 PM
I find it funny that all of these canadian posters are calling Hull a traitor.

The 3rd leading goal scorer of all time was never selected by any junior program in Canada to represent his country, and was shut out for many years. Since he had never been selected by Canada, and also since he barely ever lived in canada, he decided to play for the US.


Now, Call Dany Heatley a traitor....he should be playing for the German team right? He was Born in West Germany, January 21st 1981.

Or how about Robyn Regehr?....Born in Brazil?

Czech Republic wants Petr Nedved back.


When one of "your own" doesn't want to play for Canada you call him a traitor, but nothing is said about the other players Canada has that aren't born in Canada.



On the topic of the comments, Hull's comments were not good. He should never say that he doesn'tareabout the fans.

x-bob
09-05-2004, 08:52 PM
I find it funny that all of these canadian posters are calling Hull a traitor.

The 3rd leading goal scorer of all time was never selected by any junior program in Canada to represent his country, and was shut out for many years. Since he had never been selected by Canada, and also since he barely ever lived in canada, he decided to play for the US.


Now, Call Dany Heatley a traitor....he should be playing for the German team right? He was Born in West Germany, January 21st 1981.

Or how about Robyn Regehr?....Born in Brazil?

Czech Republic wants Petr Nedved back.


When one of "your own" doesn't want to play for Canada you call him a traitor, but nothing is said about the other players Canada has that aren't born in Canada.



On the topic of the comments, Hull's comments were not good. He should never say that he doesn'tareabout the fans.

There all trators....your happy now :shakehead

#66
09-05-2004, 08:55 PM
Guys like Hull and JR just talk and talk and talk. How they have any validity any more is beyond me.

I Hate You All*
09-05-2004, 08:55 PM
Brett Hull is a badass like Todd Bertuzzi! :yo:

slats432
09-05-2004, 08:59 PM
I hate to be a voice of reason here, because I have never been a Brett Hull fan.(Admire the skill, not the person.) But the fact is, if you have had an incredibly bad day, and some keeps bugging you to talk about it, you basically tell them to leave you alone.

I don't like Brett Hull, but he doesn't deserve the crapstorm.

HF_Rangers
09-05-2004, 09:07 PM
I admire Brett Hull and I think it's bad for him to be angry at the fans... however, he didn't play well in his first two games and deserved to be benched on Friday.

Look forward to see him representing Team France at the 2006 Olympics.

kenabnrmal
09-05-2004, 09:11 PM
I hate to be a voice of reason here, because I have never been a Brett Hull fan.(Admire the skill, not the person.) But the fact is, if you have had an incredibly bad day, and some keeps bugging you to talk about it, you basically tell them to leave you alone.

I don't like Brett Hull, but he doesn't deserve the crapstorm.

Exactly, but whats a day on HF without some overreaction.

Joe_Sakic#19
09-05-2004, 09:25 PM
Brett Hull is a badass like Todd Bertuzzi! :yo:

Did you mean Dumbass?

ChubarovRocks
09-05-2004, 09:37 PM
:lol

I hope Hull never plays another game of hockey, again. Jackass

Freudian
09-05-2004, 09:37 PM
Anyone who is intellectually honest knows he meant "i dont give a **** about the fans wishes for me to talk about being scratched".

He always had an ego, so lets not get carried away by his comments here. He is pissed about being a scratch. But he shouldn't be. The US has 12 forwards that does the job better, and thats all there is to it.

DownFromNJ
09-05-2004, 10:23 PM
I say we replace Hull with Brian Gionta. Polar opposites :)

CH Wizard*
09-05-2004, 10:32 PM
The Sept. 15th deadline is 10 days away and the NHLPA has yet to make a proposal for a new CBA. Does it appear as though they care about the fans?

Agree.It's a shame Bettman forgot about the fans.I can't beleive it :shakehead .

I hate Brett Hull.He hate Canadians.He has never been in a canadian team.I don't care about his comments.We all know that He's an abosutly cry baby and a idiot.

oli500
09-05-2004, 10:44 PM
I fell sorry for the pheonix coyotes fans who are stuck with a **** face like that. He tends to forget that we the fans are the one paying his salary. Boy after that I can allready see some bad blood in the coyotes locker room, How is a teamate suppose to aproach a guy that well be asked by many reporters about those coments during spring training. I know I wouldent feel comfortbal. I mean if hull was a member of the team that I support, I wouldent acept his comments one bet.

Knucklez
09-05-2004, 11:13 PM
I don't know what he expects, all he does is float. I've never seen him race for the puck, or go into a puck battle, or backcheck aggresively. He slouches around the ice looking for a one-timer all the time. You think he'd wake up after being scratched, but it just makes him more arrogant.

chapel113x
09-05-2004, 11:18 PM
Where's reilly when you need him?

me2
09-06-2004, 12:07 AM
So he shot his mouth off, he fired back a poorly worded retort to a stupid question. The reporter was trying to pull of a piece of s*** emotional blackmail type question. The reporter was hiding behind the "fans'" desire to know: BS he just wanted something to give himself to write to make some money. It was a cheap a$$ stunt and it deserved the contemptuous reply it got. Yeah, Hull shouldn't have said those words, I'm sure he'd have said nothing at all with hindsight. While it was a poor choice for a retort its not that hard to read through the words to get the real sentiment:"Mr reporter - just **** off and leave me alone". Honestly this has very little to do with the fans, they are just a word that got mixed in the sentence.

Talk about over reaction. Really :banghead:

Knucklez
09-06-2004, 01:58 AM
So he shot his mouth off, he fired back a poorly worded retort to a stupid question. The reporter was trying to pull of a piece of s*** emotional blackmail type question. The reporter was hiding behind the "fans'" desire to know: BS he just wanted something to give himself to write to make some money. It was a cheap a$$ stunt and it deserved the contemptuous reply it got. Yeah, Hull shouldn't have said those words, I'm sure he'd have said nothing at all with hindsight. While it was a poor choice for a retort its not that hard to read through the words to get the real sentiment:"Mr reporter - just **** off and leave me alone". Honestly this has very little to do with the fans, they are just a word that got mixed in the sentence.

Talk about over reaction. Really :banghead:
The reporter was only doing his job. I'm sure you have certain things that you're required to do wherever you work. Well, the reporter's job is to ask questions. Hull needs to think before he speaks.

arrbez
09-06-2004, 01:59 AM
Im not a big fan of the Hull Family.

no kidding eh? the ass doesn't fall far from the ass-tree apparently...

Fincan
09-06-2004, 02:09 AM
Why do some of you Canadians fans take things so personally? The way you're acting makes it sound like Hull shot your dog.

Hull is playing poorly, Hull is upset, with a bad attitude, and Hull made a stupid comment. The coaches will either bench him or he'll pull his head out of his ass and shut and play.

Ahhh there is American fans responding too who seem equally pissed at Hull. Same with fans from other places.

I can never hate Hull though. I dont like the comment, but I cant hate a guy who stated that 75% of the players are over-paid. I dislike a guy like Pronger more who comes back stating "And Im sure he is not one of them hey" Well you all are Chris, but by the 25% are not logic Hull used he was not one of them as he has never been one of the highest paid guys like Pronger has and Hull is one of the greates scorers ever. (sorry that rant took me a little off topic)

Irresponsible stupid comment by Hull. I have never been one mad at him for playin for the US. It gives me a reason to bug my American friends saying they need our rejects :) and in reality he grew up in the US and is probably more American than Canadian. They wanted him when Canada didnt, so why wouldnt he spend the rest of his international career playing for them?

Fincan
09-06-2004, 02:15 AM
It's not the fact he is declining to comment, it's HOW he declines the comment. But apparently he really doesn't care anymore, if those consequences escape him.

Either way, during a time when hockey isn't very popular, ESPECIALLY in the United States, you don't want fans to hear they're unimportant. There's a bigger picture than just "Oh, well, he doesn't want to talk, and it's the media's fault for doing their job and trying to get as much out of him as they can."

Isn't it also the medias job to report things responsibly? I think it is likely that they did spin this and blow it out of proportion. The sad thing is that this could actually affect the guys career. just because he didnt want to talk at that time, does not mean he wouldnt have at all. He could have been more tactical, but sometimes people need their space.

SwisshockeyAcademy
09-06-2004, 02:18 AM
Guys like Hull and JR just talk and talk and talk. How they have any validity any more is beyond me.
I don't have a clue either. The hockey news doesn't help as it kisses their ***** at every opportunity. They never want their star to fade so the best way to be a superstar when the skills decline is to talk like an all-star. I do not call Hull a traitor, it was very fair that he chose the US- they gave him an opportunity. I am even more happy today that he is part of the US camp causing a disturbance and being a distraction. Credit to Ron Wilson for recognizing the passenger that is Brett. He will not be in the lineup for the quarters and why the hell would he be? He is a set piece player, a luxury item. The US team cannot afford luxury items right now.

SwisshockeyAcademy
09-06-2004, 02:20 AM
The reporter was only doing his job. I'm sure you have certain things that you're required to do wherever you work. Well, the reporter's job is to ask questions. Hull needs to think before he speaks.
I do not agree, it was unprofessional to use the ploy and ruse of it being for the fans so a reporter could get his piece. It almost exonerates Hull in this situation if he was not a purebread idiot to begin with.

ehc73
09-06-2004, 02:22 AM
Hull's actions have spoken louder than his words. He didn't bother to stick around to shake hands after a game, instead chose to pout on the bench. That shows poor sportsmanship. He storms out before practice finishes because his poor play relegates him to the pressbox. That shows him putting himself before the team. Wilson has every right to bench Hull after his antics, and Hull acting like a baby about it doesn't help things.
Hull is a goal scorer, that's his game. But if the puck's not going in, you have to find other ways to contribute. Lemieux hasn't scored a goal, yet he has found ways to help out in the defensive end and has gone after pucks when they are loose. Hull? He refuses to pay the price to get the puck out and decides to float during the games in order to get that perfect pass for his one-timer. He's one of the veterans on the team. So much for leadership, and so much for putting the team first.
Hull needs a reality check, and Wilson's giving him one.

MS
09-06-2004, 02:23 AM
I find it funny that all of these canadian posters are calling Hull a traitor.

The 3rd leading goal scorer of all time was never selected by any junior program in Canada to represent his country, and was shut out for many years. Since he had never been selected by Canada, and also since he barely ever lived in canada, he decided to play for the US.


Exactly.

The guy was 20 years old, had already been bypassed twice in the NHL draft and never had any opportunity to play internationally. Then the US offers him the opportunity of a lifetime to showcase his skills in the biggest junior tourney in the world with dozens of scouts watching. Is he seriously a traitor if he doesn't turn that offer down? Especially when he spent half his childhood growing up in the US and identified with both countries equally.

Once he played for the US once, he could never play for Canada again. So it's not like he's 'choosing' to shun us ... after 1984, the US was the only team he could play for, even if he wanted to suit up for Canada.

(lone)Yashinfan#79
09-06-2004, 02:24 AM
technically he played a few games in Calgary before being dealt to St. Louis... i think Hull not playing for canadian teams is more a matter of the allure of big bucks that most/all canadian cities can't/won't shell out than some anti-canada rhetoric...does anyone honestly believe any of the political b.s.?

Knucklez
09-06-2004, 02:43 AM
I have respect and admiration for what Wilson is doing. He's benching Hull in what are probably his last international hockey games, because he's doing nothing to help the team. It shows that Wilson is putting the team before the personal agendas of it's players, and I like that a lot.

Unfortunately, there isn't much else to like about the American team.

King'sPawn
09-06-2004, 02:43 AM
Isn't it also the medias job to report things responsibly? I think it is likely that they did spin this and blow it out of proportion. The sad thing is that this could actually affect the guys career. just because he didnt want to talk at that time, does not mean he wouldnt have at all. He could have been more tactical, but sometimes people need their space.

Unfortunately, that's not entirely accurate, either. The media is a business just like everything else. They make a living out of underlining blowing up quotes, sensationalizing stories, and catching shocking events. Should they control themselves? In my opinion, yes.

How many of us would have read the article if it read "Hull declines to comment on his chance of being a healthy scratch." I'm pretty sure the editor would have told the reporter he either gets something interesting going, or he can go to the next local hockey camp to say how well little Timmy is doing against his 8 year-old peers.

It's a sad cycle. We want the media to treat issues with a sense of humanity, but at the same time we want news we find interesting. The ambitious reporters wish to cater to the latter. It's either this or we return to reprimanding reporters for being too emotional by saying, "Oh the humanity!"

Hockeyfan02
09-06-2004, 03:13 AM
Exactly.

The guy was 20 years old, had already been bypassed twice in the NHL draft and never had any opportunity to play internationally. Then the US offers him the opportunity of a lifetime to showcase his skills in the biggest junior tourney in the world with dozens of scouts watching. Is he seriously a traitor if he doesn't turn that offer down? Especially when he spent half his childhood growing up in the US and identified with both countries equally.

Once he played for the US once, he could never play for Canada again. So it's not like he's 'choosing' to shun us ... after 1984, the US was the only team he could play for, even if he wanted to suit up for Canada.

Good point. I'm an american so obviously I have some biased involved, but the guy didnt turn his back on his country or is a traitor like most percieve him to be. He took the best oppetunity for him to make the NHL and follow his dream of playing in the NHL. If Canada had asked him to play and he turned them down then I could see the hatred, but he just did what was best for him when Canada didnt give him an oppertunity.

As for the comments I was pretty mad at first, but Brett was obviously upset at the reporter for asking him questions after hes obviously frustrated about not being able to suit up. Now he should have thought before he spoke but how many of us when were extremely pissed off are able to think clearly. I really hope he takes back what he said, but knowing Brett over his career he doesnt usually apologize for his comments.

SopelFan
09-06-2004, 03:37 AM
I wish I knew the guy who cut Hull from Team Canada years ago. He saved us years of BS from a pompous (deleted).

Fincan
09-06-2004, 04:36 AM
Unfortunately, that's not entirely accurate, either. The media is a business just like everything else. They make a living out of underlining blowing up quotes, sensationalizing stories, and catching shocking events. Should they control themselves? In my opinion, yes.

How many of us would have read the article if it read "Hull declines to comment on his chance of being a healthy scratch." I'm pretty sure the editor would have told the reporter he either gets something interesting going, or he can go to the next local hockey camp to say how well little Timmy is doing against his 8 year-old peers.

It's a sad cycle. We want the media to treat issues with a sense of humanity, but at the same time we want news we find interesting. The ambitious reporters wish to cater to the latter. It's either this or we return to reprimanding reporters for being too emotional by saying, "Oh the humanity!"

I guess the difference is between what there job is and what it should be. unfortuanately they have made sensationalization their job, but it is not the ideal.

Russian_fanatic
09-06-2004, 04:39 AM
Exactly.

The guy was 20 years old, had already been bypassed twice in the NHL draft and never had any opportunity to play internationally. Then the US offers him the opportunity of a lifetime to showcase his skills in the biggest junior tourney in the world with dozens of scouts watching. Is he seriously a traitor if he doesn't turn that offer down? Especially when he spent half his childhood growing up in the US and identified with both countries equally.

Once he played for the US once, he could never play for Canada again. So it's not like he's 'choosing' to shun us ... after 1984, the US was the only team he could play for, even if he wanted to suit up for Canada.

Exactly it's not our fault Hull wasn't good enough for us.

Macman
09-06-2004, 09:44 AM
Now, Call Dany Heatley a traitor....he should be playing for the German team right? He was Born in West Germany, January 21st 1981.

Or how about Robyn Regehr?....Born in Brazil?

To say Heatley is German and Regehr is Brazilian is like saying I'm French because I like their food. Both were born in those countries to Canadian parents working briefly there. That makes them Canadian citizens.

The Hull thing is a lot different.

King'sPawn
09-06-2004, 09:45 AM
I guess the difference is between what there job is and what it should be. unfortuanately they have made sensationalization their job, but it is not the ideal.

Exactly, and we'll be hard pressed to find a medium as long as people are willing to pay more for a sensationalized story.

Macman
09-06-2004, 09:57 AM
I wish I knew the guy who cut Hull from Team Canada years ago. He saved us years of BS from a pompous (deleted).

I seem to think it was Dave King.

guinness
09-06-2004, 10:01 AM
Ahhh there is American fans responding too who seem equally pissed at Hull. Same with fans from other places.

I can never hate Hull though. I dont like the comment, but I cant hate a guy who stated that 75% of the players are over-paid. I dislike a guy like Pronger more who comes back stating "And Im sure he is not one of them hey" Well you all are Chris, but by the 25% are not logic Hull used he was not one of them as he has never been one of the highest paid guys like Pronger has and Hull is one of the greates scorers ever. (sorry that rant took me a little off topic)

Irresponsible stupid comment by Hull. I have never been one mad at him for playin for the US. It gives me a reason to bug my American friends saying they need our rejects :) and in reality he grew up in the US and is probably more American than Canadian. They wanted him when Canada didnt, so why wouldnt he spend the rest of his international career playing for them?

The Canadian comment was because of the posters that called him a traitor. I didn't realize relations were so bad between the US and Canada that if a guy that has dual citizenship plays for the US when Canada didn't want him is then somehow branded a traitor. Or is it because Hull gave up his Canadian citizenship? Either way, it still seems dumb to call him a traitor.

Hull is Hull, he said something stupid, it made have been taken out of context, or maybe he really meant it. I should care, but I'm not that surprised considering the source (Brett Hull). It's not like the Canadian NHL players probably care that much about the fans right now either, it's all about the money. Remember when McCabe put his foot in his mouth too?

BugsyMalone
09-06-2004, 10:16 AM
While I don't think Hull's comments were tactful, I'm not surprised he's pissed off at the situation. He's a veteran who has alot of pride, and I'm sure being benched and all stings. TSN is just following a strange Canadian pattern of pointing out all that ails Brett Hull, typically throwing out the word "traitor" for good measure. All I can say is if this doesn't motivate Hull, nothing will. I fully expect him to be in the line-up in the quarters, and I think he'll be a differance maker.

I agree. Hull was already doing nothing so this was a move in an attempt to light a fire under Hull's rear. From his comments - albiet uncalled for - he cares and is pissed about his status on the team. Great move by Wilson!

Coach Ron Wilson was asked if he'd put Hull back in the lineup for a quarter-final elimination game Tuesday. He couldn't say that he would, adding lineup decisions will be made game day. That's not the vote of confidence Hull was looking for.

Wilson would look like a motivational genius if Hull scores a big goal and the Americans win Tuesday. Hull could then take the post-game podium and break his silence, smiling all the while. But if that doesn't happen, one of the greatest players to ever wear the red, white and blue will exit the international stage with a sour taste in his mouth.

The situation isn't harming the team, said Weight.

``He has done nothing to affect our chemistry in a bad way,'' said Weight. ``He has been fine.

``When he gets out there again, he'll still be the most dangerous player on the ice.''

berney fkaj
09-06-2004, 10:33 AM
The Canadian comment was because of the posters that called him a traitor. I didn't realize relations were so bad between the US and Canada that if a guy that has dual citizenship plays for the US when Canada didn't want him is then somehow branded a traitor. Or is it because Hull gave up his Canadian citizenship? Either way, it still seems dumb to call him a traitor.

Hull is Hull, he said something stupid, it made have been taken out of context, or maybe he really meant it. I should care, but I'm not that surprised considering the source (Brett Hull). It's not like the Canadian NHL players probably care that much about the fans right now either, it's all about the money. Remember when McCabe put his foot in his mouth too?


Yep anyone here would/should of done the same in his shoes. He just wanted to play and they gave him the chance. If he put on USA's jersey and then once he became the player he is/was and switched to Canada,then that would be a trader.

High flyin' Habs*
09-06-2004, 10:37 AM
and I don't give a *bleep* about Brett Hull. Retire.
Right on!

High flyin' Habs*
09-06-2004, 10:40 AM
``I don't give a (deleted) about the fans anymore,'' said Hull.

I understand your frustrated but what did the fans do to you??

Mr.Brownov*
09-06-2004, 11:26 AM
I'm emberassed for Gretzky!

Rabid Ranger
09-06-2004, 11:32 AM
Hull's actions have spoken louder than his words. He didn't bother to stick around to shake hands after a game, instead chose to pout on the bench. That shows poor sportsmanship. He storms out before practice finishes because his poor play relegates him to the pressbox. That shows him putting himself before the team. Wilson has every right to bench Hull after his antics, and Hull acting like a baby about it doesn't help things.
Hull is a goal scorer, that's his game. But if the puck's not going in, you have to find other ways to contribute. Lemieux hasn't scored a goal, yet he has found ways to help out in the defensive end and has gone after pucks when they are loose. Hull? He refuses to pay the price to get the puck out and decides to float during the games in order to get that perfect pass for his one-timer. He's one of the veterans on the team. So much for leadership, and so much for putting the team first.
Hull needs a reality check, and Wilson's giving him one.


A very fair, and unfortunately very realistic look at the way things have unfolded with Hull at the World Cup.

Rabid Ranger
09-06-2004, 01:06 PM
I was just watching a TSN clip on this situation, and Glenn Healy makes the comment that the U.S. NEEDS Brett Hull to have any chance of winning? Has he even watched the past three games? Brett Hull sitting might be one of the reasons we do win!

Petey21
09-06-2004, 01:16 PM
"I don't give a *bleep* about the fans any more."

I didn't know this guy even have (or used to have) any fans, but he sure doesn't deserve to have any. Old bitter cranky whiner.

Papa Smurf
09-06-2004, 01:22 PM
I hope he chooses to find work in this daddy's league, and is without a job 3 months later.

Shack
09-06-2004, 01:27 PM
Give him to the Mongolian national team. Please.

Does Mongolia wan't him??

Papa Smurf
09-06-2004, 01:30 PM
Does Mongolia wan't him??

They probably dont know who he is. But as long as he goes far, far away.

ChowsBaby21
09-06-2004, 02:33 PM
To say Heatley is German and Regehr is Brazilian is like saying I'm French because I like their food. Both were born in those countries to Canadian parents working briefly there. That makes them Canadian citizens.

The Hull thing is a lot different.


I hate Hull just as much if not more than everyone on here, but the Hull thing is NOT a lot different. His Dad is Canadian, his Mom is American, Brett has dual citizanship. Not only did Canada not want him, but his mother pretty much raised him as his parent were divorced when Brett was young so he was raised by the American parent. The only way he could be considered a traitor would be if he started off playing for the Canadian National team then decided he wanted to play for the Americans instead or vice versa so drop the traitor stuff because there is NO case for it.

rulin
09-06-2004, 02:37 PM
I was just watching a TSN clip on this situation, and Glenn Healy makes the comment that the U.S. NEEDS Brett Hull to have any chance of winning? Has he even watched the past three games? Brett Hull sitting might be one of the reasons we do win!Healy's a moron. Whenever he starts talking, you should scream/sing as loud as you possibly can, so you won't lose any brain cells by having to listen to him.

And, ehc73, nicely put. :handclap:

HABitual
09-06-2004, 02:47 PM
I find it funny that all of these canadian posters are calling Hull a traitor.

The 3rd leading goal scorer of all time was never selected by any junior program in Canada to represent his country, and was shut out for many years. Since he had never been selected by Canada, and also since he barely ever lived in canada, he decided to play for the US.


Now, Call Dany Heatley a traitor....he should be playing for the German team right? He was Born in West Germany, January 21st 1981.

Or how about Robyn Regehr?....Born in Brazil?

Czech Republic wants Petr Nedved back.


When one of "your own" doesn't want to play for Canada you call him a traitor, but nothing is said about the other players Canada has that aren't born in Canada.



On the topic of the comments, Hull's comments were not good. He should never say that he doesn'tareabout the fans.

So we should just be like good little Canadians and just shut up eh? Uh take over hoster :shakehead

Rabid Ranger
09-06-2004, 02:52 PM
So we should just be like good little Canadians and just shut up eh? Uh take over hoster :shakehead



I think the Brett Hull "traitor" issue has been beat to death, so yeah, maybe *you* should shut it.

LuckyLUC20
09-06-2004, 05:35 PM
Hull's actions have spoken louder than his words. He didn't bother to stick around to shake hands after a game, instead chose to pout on the bench. That shows poor sportsmanship. He storms out before practice finishes because his poor play relegates him to the pressbox. That shows him putting himself before the team. Wilson has every right to bench Hull after his antics, and Hull acting like a baby about it doesn't help things.
Hull is a goal scorer, that's his game. But if the puck's not going in, you have to find other ways to contribute. Lemieux hasn't scored a goal, yet he has found ways to help out in the defensive end and has gone after pucks when they are loose. Hull? He refuses to pay the price to get the puck out and decides to float during the games in order to get that perfect pass for his one-timer. He's one of the veterans on the team. So much for leadership, and so much for putting the team first.
Hull needs a reality check, and Wilson's giving him one.
Exactly...

Last season, I don't know if anybody remembers this, but Andy Murray benched Luc Robitaille for about 3 straight games because he was very unproductive and wasn't doing anything to help the team. Imagine that, the highest scoring left winger benched... we had just lost Ziggy for the year, Martin Straka had just gotten injured... so Luc was upset, he was angry, pissed off... But the difference between he and Hull is that Luc didn't throw a fit. He didn't say what Hull said. He didn't storm out of practice before the team. He went to practice everyday, worked hard, sat in the press box and talked with Murray (behind closed doors). To this day, he is probably still sour about that time.. but he knows that it's a part of the sport and coaches have to make big decisions like this. He took it like a MAN.. a true professional.

When Luc came back from beind benched, he scored like 7 points in the next 5 games. This showed the team, that if Luc Robitaille could get benched, then anybody on the team can get benched.. doesn't matter what your name is. If you don't pick it up, you're next. It definitely sparked the team, not to mention Luc.

Macman
09-06-2004, 05:42 PM
I hate Hull just as much if not more than everyone on here, but the Hull thing is NOT a lot different. His Dad is Canadian, his Mom is American, Brett has dual citizanship.

I personally could care less who Hull plays for and he has every right to represent whoever he wants, but it is a lot different than the Heatley and Regehr situations. Hull has ties to Canada beyond just being born here. He lived here for years, played hockey here and would have played for Canada had he been asked. Heatley and Regehr have no ties whatsoever to Germany or Brazil on than the fact they happened to be born there.

Rod Langway was born in Taiwan. That doesn't make him Chinese.

roast
09-06-2004, 08:46 PM
The reality is he is an older player who is not preforming to his or the coaches expectation and he is pissed off about it, probably because its his final international tournament. If you are getting all bent out of shape because he said ****, you need to relax. Fans of the USA, this is pretty much common in the NFL, so i am not surprised by this reaction at all. :joker:

PSUhockey34
09-06-2004, 09:29 PM
Its not so much that he made the comment "I dont care about the *** fans" b/c it was in the heat of the moment, but the fact that he cant handle being benched is what gets to me...I wanna see Hull say that he hasnt produced **** since the tournament started and the best thing for team is that he's off the ice right now...let him go home and add more fuel to fire to the crap thats surronded this team recently...Wilson has had player issues like this when he was in DC so I'm not sure if he's got in a hand in Hull's freak out but you really got to give Wilson credit for showing the courage to bench a player of Hull's caliber whether the guy is producing or not

I Hate You All*
09-06-2004, 11:06 PM
Did you mean Dumbass?

Did you mean...

Bad Mammajamma?

Bob Clarke Fan Club
09-07-2004, 11:56 AM
Well Hull...I'm sick of paying your salary. Bad time to be making comments like that. I'd expect so much more from a veteran. Just glad he's not Team Canada material anymore. :shakehead

Douggy
09-07-2004, 12:03 PM
The reality is he is an older player who is not preforming to his or the coaches expectation and he is pissed off about it, probably because its his final international tournament.
This is not Hull's first International Tournament.

cfrancis
09-07-2004, 01:08 PM
Brett Hull: Can I take a mulligan on that one?

puck swami
09-08-2004, 02:07 PM
I'm sick and tired of the "Traitor" crap, too. Brett was Born in Belleville, Ontario and spent most of his early youth in Chicago, playing youth hockey there. After his parents divorce, Brett went to live with his American mother in of all places, Vancouver (is she a traitor?). Then Brett went to play College Hockey in Duluth, Minnesota, and he's played in the USA for 95% of his pro hockey career since then.

In 1986, the World Championships were coming up. Canadian National coach Dave King took a pass on Hull for Team Canada, as Brett was finishing his college hockey career at Minnesota-Duluth. Since Hull was a dual citizen, USA Coach Dave Peterson offered Brett a spot on the US National Team. Hull wanted to play and develop his career, and spurned by Canada, he decided to play for the USA, and has been loyal to the USA program ever since, since it was loyal to him. Hardly the behavior of a traitor if you ask me.