The London Knights 2004/2005 Thread

I thought it would be cool if we had a thread and everytime someone went to a game, they could post about who they thought played well and give a little scouting report!

So if you go to a game, let us know what happens!!

So I went to the Knights-Sting Pre-Season game tonight. What a stinker.

The Sting were the worst OHL team I've seen since the year the Knights only won one game!

Notes from the game:
- As I said before, the Sting got owned. Only two solid scorring chances the whole game, one of which they converted on a two-man advantage.

- Perry showed some awesome stickhanding skills, deking through many Sarnia players throughout the night, ans scorring a goal in the second period.

- Dave Bolland was a lot more physical than I remembered. Didn't really throw his weight around, but played tough and stood up for himself.

- There wasn't a single fight all game! :banghead: Now I can live with that, but when I go to an OHL, Pre-Season game, I expect to see atleast 1 fight!!! There wasn't anything even close!

- Everybody's passing was attrocious. Just ugly. Probably because it was the first game of the year

- London didn't win too many faceoffs.

- Schremp didn't do anything spectacular. He played on a line with Perry and Prust. I didn't get to see too many players, because nobody had a name on their jersey.

- Ryan Potruff looked like he seriously injured his leg in a freak accident when he slid into the end boards, backwards, on his belly with a sarnia Player on top. He lay there in agony until the Doc came out and two players helped him off. Wasn't too pretty.

- I normally watch the goalies but I didn't have a good view from where I was tonight. Maybe next time.

OKAY! It's someone elses turn to go to a game and give their thoughts!

So I went to the Knights-Sting Pre-Season game tonight. What a stinker.

The Sting were the worst OHL team I've seen since the year the Knights only won one game!

1) The Sting were playing a bunch of scrubs while the Knights played almost their full roster. That's why the Sting got owned. They'll have a decent team this year.

2) There's a wonderful Knights message board at http://pub38.ezboard.com/fthevoiceofthelondonknightsfansfrm1 if you want to talk Knights.

Mattias Olimb was freakin' awsome last night. He wasn't dominate but he did look good with the puck and played a high energy type game. The only thing that is against his favor is the image of Karaga from last years team.

Keep him away from Klein.

Haven't seen the other import play yet, the fella from Russia who is drafted by Chicago. Hopefully both these euro's can make some sort of impact on the team and take some pressure off the big guns.

Harrison Reed has some wheels, which is nice. Since I'd like to see the Knights be built around speed on the JLC ice. Him and Drummond could rip around the ice in the near future.

You can also check out the Knights' fan run forum as sec17 mentioned. Here's a simple shorter URL: http://goknightsgo.cjb.net/
hope to see some of you there. Good idea for a thread though Douggy.

What was wrong with Karaga? I only saw him in one game but he was awesome in that game!

What was wrong with Karaga? I only saw him in one game but he was awesome in that game!

Nothing was wrong with Karaga up until Tim Brent put a few cheap shots on him during a scurmish in a game against St.Mikes (resulting in a concussion, stiches and a few games out of the lineup). Karaga was able to get healthy again, but was never the same player after that.

He sure owned at the Div I U20s though. Him and the Kastistyns were liting it up! I wonder if he'll play up in the Main Pool this year.

Rodney is a Knight! Welcome home. :handclap:

GO KNIGHTS GO!

Too bad they had to give up a defenceman, especially one who seemed to be improving. Now they're still going to be REALLY thin on the blueline, atleast until Pottruff and Rediker return.

Too bad they had to give up a defenceman, especially one who seemed to be improving. Now they're still going to be REALLY thin on the blueline, atleast until Pottruff and Rediker return.

Uh,

Rodney is a defenseman... a better one than Nemeth at that.

Uh,

Rodney is a defenseman... a better one than Nemeth at that.

When you do the math picking up a defenceman and losing a defenceman isn't exactly adding a defenceman, now is it?

My point was fairly obviously..... I would have prefered the Knights traded goaltending or forwards to aquire another defenceman.

Rodney is a huge upgrade from Nemeth, especially offensively where he is one of the best in the OHL this season. He will strengthen an already dangerous Knights power play.

GAME #1: at Kitchener

it took Corey Perry 1 minute and 23 seconds to score his first goal of the season.

on the powerplay...

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=10742

Schremp scores twice and adds an assist...

4-3 win!

Coleman was outstanding tonight (the Knights were outshot 45-27). Sunday's game in London ought to be interesting....

Schremp scores twice and adds an assist...

4-3 win!

And still finishes -1. :)

Rodney is a huge upgrade from Nemeth, especially offensively where he is one of the best in the OHL this season. He will strengthen an already dangerous Knights power play.

Rodney is probably the 2nd best offensive d-man in the league. However he is bad in his own end and a lot of Kingston fans were not sad to see him go.

GAME #1: at Kitchener

it took Corey Perry 1 minute and 23 seconds to score his first goal of the season.

Not only was it quick, it was an incredible goal. Boris Valabik was in good position and Perry beat him so badly that the enorous Valabik bearly even got a piece of Perry as he blew by with a nifty piece of stickhandleing and lifted the puck over DiReinzo (sp?).

Not only was it quick, it was an incredible goal. Boris Valabik was in good position and Perry beat him so badly that the enorous Valabik bearly even got a piece of Perry as he blew by with a nifty piece of stickhandleing and lifted the puck over DiReinzo (sp?).

:yo: Right on...

The Knights are now 2-0-0-0. They beat Kitchener today 5-2 with Hunter getting 4 pts (2G & 2A)

anyone know how Corey Perry did in his fight?

anyone know how Corey Perry did in his fight?

Speedbagged. The important thing is the Knights are kicking arse and taking names. Doesn't get much sweeter than taking 4 Pts from Kitchener to start the season. :yo: How I loathe them.

Go Knights Go!

How I loathe them.

Trust me the feeling is completely mutual! :D

Now that I have that out of the way -- the Knights don't have any visible weaknesses - both goalies played solid games and Kitchener couldn't solve either one. Strong defense and very good forwards (that hurts me to say because I REALLY dislike everything about Corey Perry).

Enjoy watching your team this year -- teams like this don't come around very often.

I REALLY dislike everything about Corey Perry.

And you guys thought she was on my buddy list because she was a Ranger fan? :D

Oh, and I think Owen Sound are capable of matching the Knights this year.

Havent got to watch jack this year as i am in college here in...*gasp* Sarnia. (It's a nice place, just hate their team ;) ) Anyways, I am going to try and go to all the games that the Knights play here in Sarnia, so just a heads up for them.

Havent got to watch jack this year as i am in college here in...*gasp* Sarnia. (It's a nice place, just hate their team ;) ) Anyways, I am going to try and go to all the games that the Knights play here in Sarnia, so just a heads up for them.
And so you should! Lambton College is just across the street from the Sarnia Arena isn't it?

How is Olimb doing so far?

anyone know how Corey Perry did in his fight?

he got it handed to him by richards. i counted 3 times perry's gloves were off this game and he threw zero punches. what a bi***.

And still finishes -1. :)

that does not mean he was out there for 4 goals as they didn't even score 4 goals, his points came on the powerplay and those don't go toward +-

10/1:

Corey Perry had a big night, 2 goals and 3 assists in London's 5-4 OT win.

Corey Perry and Dylan Hunter came to my work today to sign autographs and stuff. Pretty cool.

10/8:

8-0 win...Schremp 4 goals and an assist, Perry hattrick.

anyone see this game?

I predict that by December, the Storm will be leading the division. If the Knights keep it up they should hold a solid second place over Owen Sound. And the Rangers will be stuck in the basement.

Corey Perry and Dylan Hunter came to my work today to sign autographs and stuff. Pretty cool.

Wow, Dylan Hunter's autograph. Hang on to it, could be worth big bucks someday. Shame Logan wasn't there aswell, you could have retired on the spot.

I predict that by December, the Storm will be leading the division. If the Knights keep it up they should hold a solid second place over Owen Sound. And the Rangers will be stuck in the basement.


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Are you kidding me buddy, you must have been drunk when typing Storm will be leading the division. Guelph lost the majority of there offense and will be in LAST PLACE !!!!!!!!

I predict the division to go like this:

London :110 pts
Owen Sound :85 pts
Kitchener :80pts
Guelph: 60pts

London :110 pts
Owen Sound :85 pts
Kitchener :80pts
Guelph: 60pts

I think you Otter take another look at the members of the division.

10/9:

another win for London...6-1 at Sarnia...Corey Perry 2 goals and 2 assists, Schremp 1 and 1.

I think you Otter take another look at the members of the division.
:lol:

Yes, those were some eery predictions. :D

London wins again. 6-3 I believe

What a start to the season! I gotta get some friends and go out to a game! :yo:

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Are you kidding me buddy, you must have been drunk when typing Storm will be leading the division. Guelph lost the majority of there offense and will be in LAST PLACE !!!!!!!!

Were I to assume you had any legitimate arguments to back up Guelph being behind Owen Sound and London, I could concede those, but I fail to see how Kitchener and Erie will miraculously beat the Storm.

Yes, the Storm lost their goaltender and a lot of key offensemen, but it's the OHL, that's how the league works. Every team loses great players every year.

And despite that, London was supposedly a much better team last year and Guelph won. Please, buddy, back up your arguments a little, and lay off the exclamation points.

Owen Sound travel to London on Friday, should be a good one.

What a start to the season! I gotta get some friends and go out to a game! :yo:
Hang on a second Douggy...... you started this thread and you haven't been to a game? How's that bandwagon working for you?

Hang on a second Douggy...... you started this thread and you haven't been to a game? How's that bandwagon working for you?
Actually, if you read my post, it says I went to the first exibition game of the year.

How's actually reading the thread "working out for you?" :dunno:

Actually, if you read my post, it says I went to the first exibition game of the year.

How's actually reading the thread "working out for you?" :dunno:

I was just wondering how Rodney looked so far, supposedly Owen SOund were intereted.

Actually, if you read my post, it says I went to the first exibition game of the year.

How's actually reading the thread "working out for you?" :dunno:
My mistake...... you're clearly a die-hard fan.

My mistake...... you're clearly a die-hard fan.
And to be honest, I try my best to follow the Toronto Maple Leafs as much as I can. I watch all of their games on TV, I read about them in the paper and on the internet! But wait... I've only ever been to one game. :(

Can I have your permission to call myself a fan of them? :dunno:

And to be honest, I try my best to follow the Toronto Maple Leafs as much as I can. I watch all of their games on TV, I read about them in the paper and on the internet! But wait... I've only ever been to one game. :(

Can I have your permission to call myself a fan of them? :dunno:

You tell him Douggy !!! :handclap:

I am a diehard fan of the Knights as well, but I haven't made it to a game this year yet either, but I work every Friday until 8. So instead I watch the games, read every newspaper article on web or LFP. When I do go to the games (every playoff game including all MEM CUP games) I am one of the loudest and proudest fans in the arena....

Do you think I am a London Knights fan?

You tell him Douggy !!! :handclap:

I am a diehard fan of the Knights as well, but I haven't made it to a game this year yet either, but I work every Friday until 8. So instead I watch the games, read every newspaper article on web or LFP. When I do go to the games (every playoff game including all MEM CUP games) I am one of the loudest and proudest fans in the arena....

Do you think I am a London Knights fan?

Can you tell me how Rodney's looked?

Rodney has looked okay, not great. He needs some time to adjust to the style of play by the Knights. I'd say by mid season he'll be right where he was last year with Kingston and should be close to the top in scoring Def.

Oct 15/04:

London 5 Owen Sound 2

What a game, can't wait to watch the next 5 games these teams play. Owen Sound played a solid first and second period but were still no match for the Knights who are now 9-0 and may just break the record again for points in the OHL.

Oh yeah and Perry, Bolland and Schremp each had 2 points (kell might have to).

any frank rediker updates would be greatly appreciated :)

any frank rediker updates would be greatly appreciated :)

Here you go buddy
Rediker Update (http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/Sports/2004/10/16/671264.html)

The Knights are now 10-0-0-0. They beat the Greyhounds 8-3. Perry 1G-4A, Hunter 3G-2A and Schremp 1A but was the 3rd star.

Looks like it'll be Perry and Hunter as tops in the O this year in scoring :eek:

Hosting the MEM CUP this year hey?.... your going the way of my team .. Kelowna. Well it sure worked for them! 10-0... so impressive ... any ties?.. anyways from way over in BC .. keep cheering loud and make yourself deserving winners of the mem cup. You guys are going to win it this year as long as the whole city goes nuts during memorial cup.

Hosting the MEM CUP this year hey?.... your going the way of my team .. Kelowna. Well it sure worked for them! 10-0... so impressive ... any ties?.. anyways from way over in BC .. keep cheering loud and make yourself deserving winners of the mem cup. You guys are going to win it this year as long as the whole city goes nuts during memorial cup.

Oh don't you worry about the fans in London going nuts, we always do and i'll be in the front row for the entire tournament going crazy :jump: :jump:

I love this kid ! Why would you trade a kid that never stops skating for a lanky kid in the same possition? Can anyone tell me what Drew Larsen brings to the table. He isn't overly big, stats aren't great, and he is a yr. older. I know this yr. is the one we are gearing up for but if we get rid of everyone 18 and under we won't have a team at all. I know Olimb was a tiny kid but he never played that way and drew a lot of penalties because he never gave up and often got hauled down.

For you guys that look for recaps of the fights that happen in the games I post them all here (http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=616925&NoCaches=Yes)

I love this kid ! Why would you trade a kid that never stops skating for a lanky kid in the same possition? Can anyone tell me what Drew Larsen brings to the table. He isn't overly big, stats aren't great, and he is a yr. older. I know this yr. is the one we are gearing up for but if we get rid of everyone 18 and under we won't have a team at all. I know Olimb was a tiny kid but he never played that way and drew a lot of penalties because he never gave up and often got hauled down.

I'm not thrilled with the deal either, but apparantly Larman is a defensive 'shutdown' forward, who is good in the faceoff circle. Olimb was only rotting away in London anyway, he's an offensive guy who wasn't being put in positions to succeed offensively. Hopefully he'll get the opportunity to break out in Sarnia.

I'm not thrilled with the deal either, but apparantly Larman is a defensive 'shutdown' forward, who is good in the faceoff circle. Olimb was only rotting away in London anyway, he's an offensive guy who wasn't being put in positions to succeed offensively. Hopefully he'll get the opportunity to break out in Sarnia.
You are probably right and the Hunters certainly know more then me. I've spoken to Dale at the begining of the yr. and he doesn't hold a lot of confidence in the imports. We will see how it all plays out. I would have rather seen Ivanov go but maybe we didn't have that option. It stinks to see one of the most likeable guys off your team but who knows. Here to all the best for Larman on his new team :handclap:

Wow. I'm watching tonights game on TV.... Drummond just scored a wicked awesome goal.

It sounds as though it was a heck of a game. O'Sullivan tied it up late in the third..... doesn't that sound familiar?

Mississauga ruined the 11-0 record, but the Knights are still unbeaten.

It sounds as though it was a heck of a game. O'Sullivan tied it up late in the third..... doesn't that sound familiar?

Mississauga ruined the 11-0 record, but the Knights are still unbeaten.


Yeah great game but the refs sucks !!!! How the hell does Perry get a penalty when some guy jumped on him and starts punching him :dunno:

Schremp played one hell of a game and to all those who say O'Sullivan is better than Schremp better watch this game. Sure O'Sullivan scored the game tying goal but was invsible the entire game while Schremp looked great.

Yeah great game but the refs sucks !!!! How the hell does Perry get a penalty when some guy jumped on him and starts punching him :dunno:

Schremp played one hell of a game and to all those who say O'Sullivan is better than Schremp better watch this game. Sure O'Sullivan scored the game tying goal but was invsible the entire game while Schremp looked great.
I dunno if you saw it on TV or not, but I saw the replay and it was pretty clear he gave the Goalie a shot as he fell. The Missisauga guy saw it, looked at the ref, saw the refs arm wasn't up, and jumped Perry.

I know it is early in the season but who is going to be back next year for the knights?

I count 12 players that could come back next yr as an over ager:

Hunter Futers Ivanov Perry Thomson Larmen as forwards
Methot Rediker Syvret Whitfield on defence
Coleman Mcdonald in goal

My guess would be Perry Hunter and Syvret don't get to come back. We need a goalie so one of the two come back. When the season starts I would say Larmen Methot Rediker and whitfield come back with Whitfield and Larmen on the bubble as the fourth over ager to be cut before the deadline. What do you guys .... and girls think am I crazy ? Have I missed something?

<------ MY CARDINALS REALLY SUCKED :mad: BUT AT LEAST WE LOST TO THE BO SOX NOT THE YANKS :)

Corey Perry for sure won't be back.

His entry contract starts next year and he will at least play for Cincinnati in the AHL.

If O Reilley 311 from Erie is out there, i'm going to the Knights/ Otters game tomorrow night and i'm prediciting 6-3 for London w/:

Perry 1 g 2a
Schremp 2g
Hunter 1g 1a
Bolland 1g 1a

Trahans: how was the game last week?

Trahans: how was the game last week?

GREAT :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

Perry 1g 1a could've been many more points
Schremp 2a
Bolland no points but many highlight reel dekes and moves and many chances

Knights outshot them 52-19 or something crazy like that..... should've been 7-1 but Erie goalie was outstanding

11/4:

OT win for London vs Guelph.

Methot 2 goal game. Perry and Prust 2 assists each. Schremp 1 goal.

11/4:

OT win for London vs Guelph.

Methot 2 goal game. Perry and Prust 2 assists each. Schremp 1 goal.


Great game !!!!!!! :handclap: :handclap: :D

The Knights also took games against Saginaw and someone else this weekend. 17-0-1-0 woo!

GREAT :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

Perry 1g 1a could've been many more points
Schremp 2a
Bolland no points but many highlight reel dekes and moves and many chances

Knights outshot them 52-19 or something crazy like that..... should've been 7-1 but Erie goalie was outstanding

I'm guessing it was Josh Disher in net?

He's definitely one to keep an eye on. Devils 6th rounder from this past year, he's a workhorse and completely under the radar. But I really think he's got serious pro potential. He continues to improve with every week.

I'm guessing it was Josh Disher in net?

He's definitely one to keep an eye on. Devils 6th rounder from this past year, he's a workhorse and completely under the radar. But I really think he's got serious pro potential. He continues to improve with every week.

Yeah it was Disher, I have to admit he will steal some games from some good teams this year. Looks like Erie is the best team from the West next to london.

I'm guessing it was Josh Disher in net?

He's definitely one to keep an eye on. Devils 6th rounder from this past year, he's a workhorse and completely under the radar. But I really think he's got serious pro potential. He continues to improve with every week.
Hey Brock, could you describe his style/game. I may have seen him at one point last year in the playoffs vs London but didn't really catch his style. He plays on a poor team and seemed to steal many games for the Otters.

Hey Brock, could you describe his style/game. I may have seen him at one point last year in the playoffs vs London but didn't really catch his style. He plays on a poor team and seemed to steal many games for the Otters.


I always thought he was more or less a butterfly goalie. I see him being like a Khabibulin, or Nabakov, you know a goalie drafted late, but still turns out to be a steal.....stud goalies can be found so late in drafts that I really don't care what round Disher was drafted, he can still be a great goalie.

Tough break for Corey Perry this weekend, I thought he played his worst game so far this season on Thursday against Guelph (especially the first two periods) and as luck would have it team Canada's chief scout Blair Mackasey was in attendance. Than Yeserday his 17 game points streak was snapped in Toronto and according to the London paper there was alot of extra media attention surrounding the Knights at this game. (more national based outlets)

ION, Coleman was named OHL player of the week. :clap:

He's now got a save percentage of .943 and a 1.64 GAA for the season, hopefully he starts to see the bulk of the games from here on out.

Tough break for Corey Perry this weekend, I thought he played his worst game so far this season on Thursday against Guelph (especially the first two periods) and as luck would have it team Canada's chief scout Blair Mackasey was in attendance. Than Yeserday his 17 game points streak was snapped in Toronto and according to the London paper there was alot of extra media attention surrounding the Knights at this game. (more national based outlets)

ION, Coleman was named OHL player of the week. :clap:

He's now got a save percentage of .943 and a 1.64 GAA for the season, hopefully he starts to see the bulk of the games from here on out.


You want Coleman? I want big Mac.

Tough break for Corey Perry this weekend, I thought he played his worst game so far this season on Thursday against Guelph (especially the first two periods) and as luck would have it team Canada's chief scout Blair Mackasey was in attendance. Than Yeserday his 17 game points streak was snapped in Toronto and according to the London paper there was alot of extra media attention surrounding the Knights at this game. (more national based outlets)
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Hey Brock, could you describe his style/game. I may have seen him at one point last year in the playoffs vs London but didn't really catch his style. He plays on a poor team and seemed to steal many games for the Otters.

Devilsfanatic pretty much nailed it. He's your classic butterfly goalie. Quick feet, great glove. Like I said, he's improved so much from when he first started in the OHL. I compare his progression to the way Ray Emery improved from when he first started in the league. Last year Disher won the starting goaltending spot on an Erie club that was supposed to be one of the worst in the OHL. He got better and better as the year went on and became the workhorse of the OHL (leading in minutes played and shots against I believe). He was really the main reason Erie had such a surprising season.

The Devils are key at finding gems like this and I truly believe that Disher is going to be a keeper, especially since his progression (maybe because he faces so many shots every night...lol) is so steady.

Any word guys on whether either Coleman or MacDonald will be moved this year? KJ Robinson (played 1 game last year) is a good friend of mine who is playing in Strathroy (Jr. B). You see him playing any games this year?

KNIGHTS: SIX

Ice Dogs: ONE

Man, this ALMOST makes up for losing our streak to them.

Any word guys on whether either Coleman or MacDonald will be moved this year?

I would think they will keep both for their memorial cup run. I don't think either goalie wants to give up the opportunity to win a championship if they could chose either.

Wow, what a game last night. Firs dominated by Perry in the 1st, then Schremp in the 3rd...... this team is unstoppable!!!!! :handclap:

The knights are even on the tsn website after the last few wins

http://www.tsn.ca/chl/news_story.asp?id=104303

Hey, we had a year where we didn't win a game, so why not have a year where we don't lose??

Hey, we had a year where we didn't win a game, so why not have a year where we don't lose??

Ugh, this team was horrid before the Hunters took over and we played in the Ice House, yuck, and who can forget those hideous jerseys, the purple and green ones, they looked like eggplants skating around out there.

Hey, we had a year where we didn't win a game, so why not have a year where we don't lose??


Sounds good, but we won 3 games that year your talkin about.

How many games will the Knights win this year? I'm guessing 55-58

Sounds good, but we won 3 games that year your talkin about.

How many games will the Knights win this year? I'm guessing 55-58
Wow... You're right... I guess my mind had totally blocked that year out. :D

I remember I went to the first game of the year that year... they were winning going into the final minute until the other team (don't remember who) tied it up with seconds to go... The Knights lost in overtime. :banghead:

any frank rediker updates would be greatly appreciated :)

Not really on topic here but I had a good friend named Frank Rediker. Moved out west to work in Alberta.

Anyway. I don't like the Knights but I'm impressed with their season so far. Anybody taking bets on the first team to beat them?

You want Coleman? I want big Mac.


And Mac is there there with Coleman statistically at 9-0-0-0. Although the comments from Coleman about wanting to play may see him get more time than Mac. Ryan still has another year after this one so Coleman probably does have a right to get more playing time, but with the stats that both are putting up, playing for the Knights only improves their NHL dreams. No other team, except perhaps Rimouski is getting any real National media attention.

Tough luck for Perry, outscoring Sidney Crosby and still looks like he may get shut out of the National team again.

Another goal for Perry, Knights up 1-0, Ryan McDonald is in net.

Knights 1, Belleville 0

Knights 2, Belleville 0 on a delayed penalty goal, Robbie Schremp scores. Another assist for Perry, Knights get another PP.

Knights 2, Belleville 1 Knights get burned by a terrible pokecheck by MacDonald on a PP, SHG for Belleville

Knights 3, Belleville 1 Knights score via Syvret on a PP

Knights 4, Belleville 1 Knights score on a PP Rob Schremp with number two.

Only the first period, this is going to be a nutty game.

I stopped counting after the first, but, final game, and here's the score, 8-2, I feel bad for anyone who plays the Knights this year, they play like they're possessed!

London Scoring
1, Perry, (17) (Hunter, Rodney), 04:11
1, Schremp, (14) (Hunter, Perry), 11:26
1, Syvret, (6) (Methot, Perry), 13:56 (PP)
1, Schremp, (15) (Hunter, Syvret), 15:35 (PP)
2, Syvret, (7) (Bolland, Perry), 10:47 (PP)
2, Rodney, (4) (Beaulieu), 16:36
3, Schremp, (16) (Syvret, Perry), 06:11 (PP)
3, Drummond, (5) , 19:49
Belleville Scoring
1, Cameron, (2) , 13:27 (SH)
2, Thornton, (8) (Edgeworth), 07:42

Another goal for Perry, Knights up 1-0, Ryan McDonald is in net.

Knights 1, Belleville 0

Knights 2, Belleville 0 on a delayed penalty goal, Robbie Schremp scores. Another assist for Perry, Knights get another PP.

Knights 2, Belleville 1 Knights get burned by a terrible pokecheck by MacDonald on a PP, SHG for Belleville

Knights 3, Belleville 1 Knights score via Syvret on a PP

Knights 4, Belleville 1 Knights score on a PP Rob Schremp with number two.

Only the first period, this is going to be a nutty game.

I stopped counting after the first, but, final game, and here's the score, 8-2, I feel bad for anyone who plays the Knights this year, they play like they're possessed!

London Scoring
1, Perry, (17) (Hunter, Rodney), 04:11
1, Schremp, (14) (Hunter, Perry), 11:26
1, Syvret, (6) (Methot, Perry), 13:56 (PP)
1, Schremp, (15) (Hunter, Syvret), 15:35 (PP)
2, Syvret, (7) (Bolland, Perry), 10:47 (PP)
2, Rodney, (4) (Beaulieu), 16:36
3, Schremp, (16) (Syvret, Perry), 06:11 (PP)
3, Drummond, (5) , 19:49
Belleville Scoring
1, Cameron, (2) , 13:27 (SH)
2, Thornton, (8) (Edgeworth), 07:42

I was at the game against Bellville ..............wow what a team goal .....


Heres an article on last nights game. Briefly: 8-2 thrashing of another divsion leader, Schremp 3 nice goals and Perry 1g 4a



http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Londo.../13/712650.html

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Londo.../13/712651.html

"A delayed penalty was signalled against the Bulls and the Knights controlled the puck for one minute 26 seconds -- passing it 25 times -- until Schremp scored. "

"Never in my life have I seen anything like that," he said. "That was unbelievable.

"Twenty-five passes? That's incredible. That just shows the talent we have, to keep the puck away from a team like that."

Knights defeat Erie 3-1 last night 20-0-1-0!!! Yeah, that goal against Belleville was sick, I couldn't believe how long they held onto the puck!

For all those interested, who may not already know, the Knights are on National TV this Friday night at home to the Ottawa 67's on Sportsnet.

For all those interested, who may not already know, the Knights are on National TV this Friday night at home to the Ottawa 67's on Sportsnet.


i'm taping it and mailing the game to a few guys in the states who wanna see Schremp and Perry.

Those who like the Knights are invited to the new Jrahockey.com Knights forum where we combine the free discussion of the Voice with the lack of ads of the Official Board.

http://www.jrahockey.com/Forums/London/Forum.html

Gonna try and hit up the SSM game this Sunday--my first OHL game ever.

Gonna try and hit up the SSM game this Sunday--my first OHL game ever.
I am too hitting that game up, my first one of the year.

With all these msgs posted i do not see anything regarding the coaching staff etc. I think they have done a awsome job, in pullin this team together, good displine is the key , you can really see the love of the game in the dale hunter and mark hunter. Thats what a real coachin staff is about. good hearts.

Great job to the coaching staff, cont'd the work!!!! :handclap:

WOW, I can not believe the start these boys are having, and I'm not home to see this. I'm from woodstock ontario, just a 45 min drive from london, I go to lots of london games, when I'm home, but I live in victoria bc now, man I miss the great hockey those guys provide, more now since there is no NHL right now. Robbie SChremp is an amazing player, so is corey perry, and I can't wait to get home at x mas and watch them lite up the JL centre, GO KNIGHTS GO.

WOW, I can not believe the start these boys are having, and I'm not home to see this. I'm from woodstock ontario, just a 45 min drive from london, I go to lots of london games, when I'm home, but I live in victoria bc now, man I miss the great hockey those guys provide, more now since there is no NHL right now. Robbie SChremp is an amazing player, so is corey perry, and I can't wait to get home at x mas and watch them lite up the JL centre, GO KNIGHTS GO.


You're from Woodstock?? Im born in Woodstock! WOO! The Knights are great, no doubt about it....who here was worried about the start of the game, when they were down 2-0......I wasn't :)

You're from Woodstock?? Im born in Woodstock! WOO! The Knights are great, no doubt about it....who here was worried about the start of the game, when they were down 2-0......I wasn't :)


I was a little worried b/c they were playing very sluggish ...... then i remembered a slogan i tell everyone "NEVER FEAR, PERRY, SCHREMP and BOLLAND are HERE" :yo:

Bada bing bada boom 10 minutes later it was 4-2 and thats all she wrote for SSM.

And to the guy in BC you won't see Schremp he'll be on team USA, Perry might be on team Canada as well as Syvret.

I was a little worried b/c they were playing very sluggish ...... then i remembered a slogan i tell everyone "NEVER FEAR, PERRY, SCHREMP and BOLLAND are HERE" :yo:

Bada bing bada boom 10 minutes later it was 4-2 and thats all she wrote for SSM.

And to the guy in BC you won't see Schremp he'll be on team USA, Perry might be on team Canada as well as Syvret.

That's the time you'll see London lose their first game.....I think.

Yeah, its down to crunch time for the Knights. With all the All-Star/U20 games going on, all of the Knights players will start to get overworked.

Perry, Bolland, Hunter and Syvret will be playing 5 games in 5 nights this weekend.

I agree the next month is critical for the team w/ so many leaving. I believe they'll lose a few times over the next month. It'll give the youngsters some extra responsibility and playing time and hopefully help them develop even more.

Could not make it to the game tonight, so listening to the Godfather and Stubbs, man Shremp is playing well, something is wrong if the US does not add him to their Jr roster, hate to say it, make things easier for Canada maybe if he is not on their team but he definately deserves it..

Schremp and Perry.......wow, Schremp should never have fallen down to 25. Oilers fans (myself) are lucky.

Well the teams of the OHL couldn't take care of the Knights, so leave it to the officials to "save the day".

After 1 period Barrie leads London 2-0 in a terribly called game. Perry gets 4 minutes for slashing on a nothing play. Perry gets another misconduct penalty during a skirmish where only he is called. Schremp gets called for playing with a broken stick and a mysterious second penalty (bench minor) is called.

Barrie gets 6 PP opportunities in the first period alone. This is a joke and a disgrace to the game of hockey.

Oh, 20 minutes to salvage the streak...

Well the teams of the OHL couldn't take care of the Knights, so leave it to the officials to "save the day".

After 1 period Barrie leads London 2-0 in a terribly called game. Perry gets 4 minutes for slashing on a nothing play. Perry gets another misconduct penalty during a skirmish where only he is called. Schremp gets called for playing with a broken stick and a mysterious second penalty (bench minor) is called.

Barrie gets 6 PP opportunities in the first period alone. This is a joke and a disgrace to the game of hockey.
My understanding from a couple of other Knights fans is that Perry was called for yipping to the refs; and the bench minor was Dale doing the same. I'm not saying the reffing isn't questionable sometimes - it is horrible some nights - but it's about time somebody starting calling Perry for whining.

My understanding from a couple of other Knights fans is that Perry was called for yipping to the refs; and the bench minor was Dale doing the same. I'm not saying the reffing isn't questionable sometimes - it is horrible some nights - but it's about time somebody starting calling Perry for whining.

Piss off with your criticism of the OHL's leading scorer...... :) just kidding. Perry owns Richards.

Piss off with your criticism of the OHL's leading scorer...... :) just kidding. Perry owns Richards.
Uh, just to show I'm not a homer, I'll disagree with you on that one.

Piss off with your criticism of the OHL's leading scorer...... :) just kidding. Perry owns Richards.
Sure looks like it from this one...... :joker: :D

Colts are trying to cheat, the goal was in, and they were trying to push the net off. Knights up 3-2.

Funny Richards story.....last year, he was playing for the Flyers in the preseason, and people were asking him for his autograph, I didn't know who he was right? So I was like, you Richards, what the hell is your first name, so I'll be able to know you next time I see you, and he was like: It's Mike :lol nice guy.

Edit: Knights up 4-2

Streak salvaged. Knights win 4-2, again woo!

Streak salvaged. Knights win 4-2, again woo!


What a game ............... what a goal by who else but COREY PERRY !!!!!! :handclap:

I can't wait to get home and watch the boys play, it sucks so bad that I can't be there for this amazing streak. My brother in law goes to almost every home game, says the city is rocking for the knights right now, and the building is so electric it's crazy. GO Knights GO.

I can't wait to get home and watch the boys play, it sucks so bad that I can't be there for this amazing streak. My brother in law goes to almost every home game, says the city is rocking for the knights right now, and the building is so electric it's crazy. GO Knights GO.

Yeah, it is certainly an exciting time. Going to Fanshawe College here we get really cheap tickets.

Why in the hell are they not playing the record breaking game on tv :dunno:

I have to sit and listen to the game on the radio :banghead:

Atleast there up 3-0 after 2, but I wanted to watch on tv.

Well London ended up winning 3-0.

Nah nah nah,
nah nah nah

hey hey hey

GOODBYE to the OHL record !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep up the good work Knights ......... there going to have a rough time breaking the record, playing in Erie and Kitchener to get to 29, then at home against Guelph for #30 !!!!

Ugh, the Guelph and Kitchener games scare me.....the Otters, well, not as much

Ugh, the Guelph and Kitchener games scare me.....the Otters, well, not as much


Before the Knights beat Erie in Erie 3-1 a few weeks ago they were 7-0 at home. I'm not sure what there home recorrd is now but they are a good home team.

Anyone wanna guess the scores for the Windsor, Erie and Kitchener games?

Will the Knights make it to next Friday against Guelph unbeaten? I have front row tix to that game and am praying they are still undefeated.

I predict:

Lon 6 Wsr 2
Lon 3 Erie 3
Lon 4 KW 3

But I wouldn't be surprised if they lost in Erie or KW as they are both very good teams that are going to throw everything at the Knights to break the streak. Erie is a good home team, Kitchener is a good team, but the knights have owned them the past 2 years....

Valabik plays horrible against the Knights every time, can't wait to see how he does against Prust :lol and Perry

Valabik plays horrible against the Knights every time, can't wait to see how he does against Perry
I think after the last game, Perry should be more concerned with Richards coming after him.....

I think after the last game, Perry should be more concerned with Richards coming after him.....


Haha Perry doesn't need to worry about Richards, he leaves fighting up to Futers, Foreman, Prust or Witfield.

Or to stop him he'll let Methot and Whitfield give him a beating in front of the net.

Oh yeah, whats your prediction for the score in the game?

Haha Perry doesn't need to worry about Richards.
Do I have to post the picture again? :D

I'm looking forward to Wednesday's game - it should be a good one! I'll say 4-3 but for Kitchener -- Kitchener is 8-1 in Teddy Bear Toss games. This one could easily go to OT.

It's going to feel like game 7 of a playoff series at the Aud!

Do I have to post the picture again? :D

I'm looking forward to Wednesday's game - it should be a good one! I'll say 4-3 but for Kitchener -- Kitchener is 8-1 in Teddy Bear Toss games. This one could easily go to OT.

It's going to feel like game 7 of a playoff series at the Aud!


You can post the Richards/Perry pic but thats not 1/10 as embarassing as Valabik laying flat on his back after Prust knocking some sense into him.......

Then Valabik gets up and throws his helmet like a little kid.....THAT WAS CLASSIC ... I was 25ft from that fight :yo:

You can post the Richards/Perry pic but thats not 1/10 as embarassing as Valabik laying flat on his back after Prust knocking some sense into him.......

Then Valabik gets up and throws his helmet like a little kid.....THAT WAS CLASSIC ... I was 25ft from that fight :yo:
Do you really want to get into that again? I notice you weren't too quick to respond to this thread.....

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=108767

I didn't even see that thread afterwards. But its not my fault Valabik is a cry baby...... Prust cleaned his clock even though the ref was interfereing .....oh well ...fights not over till its over Boris :lol

From the London Knights website


OHL Player of the Month - Rob Schremp, London Knights
Rob Schremp led all OHL scorers with 15 goals and 23 points in 11 games last month to help the Knights extend their OHL-record undefeated streak to 26 games. Schremp, a former first overall pick in the OHL, scored in eight of 11 games last month, including hat tricks against the Belleville Bulls on November 12 and Plymouth Whalers on November 26. He recorded at least one point in all but one game last month. Schremp, an 18-year-old native of Fulton, New York, was a first round pick of the Edmonton Oilers in the NHL Entry Draft last June

Great news!!! Let's keep it up Rob!

was anyone worried tonight after being down 3-0?

not i, what a great comeback :yo:

wow, this team REALLY has something special :amazed:

Gerald Coleman - OHL Goaltender of the Month

Gerald Coleman posted an 8-0-0 record, along with a 1.37 goals against average and .943 save percentage and two shutouts in eight games last month. He follows Ryan MacDonald as the second straight London Knights goaltender to earn the award. Coleman, who leads all OHL goalies with a 1.59 goals against average and .943 save percentage in 15 games this season, picked up shutouts against the Toronto St. Michael's Majors on November 7 and the Sudbury Wolves on November 28. The 19-year-old native of Romeoville, Illinois, is in his third season after being the Knights second round pick in 2001.

OHL Press Release (http://www.chl.ca/OHLNews0405/1203b.html)

was anyone worried tonight after being down 3-0?

not i, what a great comeback :yo:
I had friends tonight at the game, they were pretty angry in telling me the recap of the game. Of course they're all Windsor natives. Wish I coulda been there no matter the outcome. Tickets are too hard to come by for my lazy ass these days.

Gerald Coleman - OHL Goaltender of the Month
Came in and saved MacDonald's behind last night.

Kitchener fans participating in the Teddy bear toss on Wednesday had better arrive early, just in case MacDonald gets the start.... Kitchener may pot a few through his five-hole during the anthem. :D

Bolland is playing good?

He is the future of the knights along with schremp once perry is gone

That's not for a while though :)

Maybe somebody already responded to this, but just in case, they are playing the game on TV. Friday the game is on Sportsnet. The last game that Perry, Bolland, and Syvret play before heading off. Good timing because it is going to be tough to lose Schremp for sure, and Perry and Syvret both have good shots at making the Canadian team. They lose Schremp for 5 games as a definiate.

Prust is going to have to pick up his game big time offensively if the Knights are going to keep their streak alive. His scoring is down from last year so he needs to pad his stats while he will get added minutes.

I would imagine that Coleman will get both starts on Wednesday and Friday as Ryan has struggled in his last few outings. The Hunters have started to play Coleman against tougher opponents and he has stepped up his game to show that he deserves the starts.

As a side note: Ryan Pottruff's leg is getting a lot better, but he is still a ways away from returining to the lineup.

The Knights did it!!!!!! :yo:

The Knights won 5-3 to bring their record to 28-0-1.

Friday the record will be theirs alone :bow:

the knights got some help from the refs tonight. (says a die hard ranger fan). not that they needed it. they are incredible. i just hope we're the other team from the o in the memorial cup with you guys. i've seen london play 3 times this year (the home and home to start the year and tonights game) and each time i've gone to see them i think i can't hate corey perry any more than i already do but each time he makes me hate him a bit more. i can't imagine how many points he'd get if he concentrated on playing instead of yapping.

sorry if i this came of too bitter it just broke my heart to see the hated knights beat the rangers again. congratulations. see you guys on sunday.

Wow, incredible, congrats. Now lets beat those pesky Storm on Friday and take the record, wahoo!!

Wow, I still can't believe the Knights made it this far. I am a huge fan but I thought either Erie or Kitchener was going to beat them. Glad they didn't though, i'll be at the game on Friday :)

Tonight is the night..... guess the final score?

I'm saying 5-2 for London with an empty net goal

The streak is now at 30 Games. They tied Guelph 0-0.

Congratulations to the London Knights :bow: :handclap: :yo:

Wow, I truly hate Guelph, and if they would have beat us tonight, I would have cried. None-the-less, thanks Guelph for such a great game, Adam Dennis was unbelievable, but so was Coleman, when it mattered most.

Now for some gloating: WAY TO GO KNIGHTS!!!!!!!!!! How close was Syvret with 3 seconds left to win it?? YIPES!

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ....................................

Wow what an entertaining game ....even though there was no goals ...... I was screaming and out of my chair the entire game. Even better I got interviewed by the local radio station 106.9 ..... i'm gonna be on the radio lol ....

Dennis was amazing ..............but did you see that Hasekesque save by Coleman. After being down and out and the cage wide open and him on him butt .....a juicy rebound came to a Guelph player and he caught the puck just before it went in the empty net ..........Highlight of the night on sportsnet for sure !!!!! :eek: :handclap: :D :bow: :yo:

Can someone tell me about the game today that either saw it live or on tv? I had to listen to it on the radio. Fortunately I was shopping until it was the 3rd period or I would've broke something as they were down 3--0 going into the 3rd period.

But wow ..........another comeback with goals (all in the 3rd and OT) from Potruff, Prust, Schrempy and Rodney !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :handclap: :bow:

Damn I wish I was there.

wtf, this is ridiculous.

I turned the game on when it was 3-2 with about 2:30 left to play.

I was floored to see them win it.

Unbelievable.

I turned the game on when it was 3-2 with about 2:30 left to play.

I was floored to see them win it.

Charlie Girl must be wrong, you're a hell of a fan.

Remember one thing kids, what goes around, comes around. These calls and bounces are eventually going to go against the Knights. When that happens, I hope you goofs have some good excuses.

lol, someone suckin' on those sour grapes? Everyone knows the streak will end eventually, Im sure most of us thought it would today with our top 3 PKers off to Winnipeg, but they still found a way. WE as Knight fans haven't had something to cheer about often, and when we finally get a good team, and get some recognition, and enjoy it a bit, everyone hates us for it?? Give me a break.

@ Douggy: When you made this topic way back in the preseason, in your wildest dreams would you have imagined something like this?

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=7426&mode=threaded&order=0

Best power play in country since Swift Current of the 1980's? Wow what a compliment to the Knights PP.

Keep it going boys, this is one helluva season!

Coincidence: I haven't gotten to see them play this year live due to school, and they haven't lost a game? Maybe I will continue my stay away from the rink :joker:

Looks like the Knights made a trade to get over the loss of Rediker...

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/Sports/2004/12/16/784876-sun.html

Canada makes their cuts today, only Bolland will re-join the Knights early.

BTW, what an exhibition game by Perry yesterday! Did you see those goals!!! :eek: :bow:

man, Syvret, Perry, and Schremp, this is going to be tough, but if anyone can pull through it's the Knights woo!!!!!

Canada makes their cuts today, only Bolland will re-join the Knights early.

BTW, what an exhibition game by Perry yesterday! Did you see those goals!!! :eek: :bow:

Syvret hasn't made the team yet. Until Seabrook's condition is determined, Sutter has kept a couple extra defencemen in camp to cover his bases.

As for Perry's game, it was impressive, but hold on a second here ladies. It was against a second rate compition, and he scored against the goalie who was cut. If he makes that move against the US and pots on Montoya, then start your worshiping. Until then, it was a nothing goal, in a game he had to do well in. Good job on his part, but a week from now, only the slow minded will remember it.

That's funny because I don't recall all those other guys with 4 points in 2 games. But I guess that's just because they couldn't score on second tier talent.

This little hard on fetish for people against Knight's players is pretty amusing ever since they got media attention for their streak. And it's funny that I am seeing a lot of the same people making comments are the same ones who know absolutely nothing about the Knights.

Believe it or not, but Dale Hunter hasn't changed as a person from his playing days. He is every bit as demainding as Brent Sutter and oddly enough I haven't seen him babying the team around like some suggest. Is Corey Perry an offensive minded player, yes, but that doens't mean he doesn't cover his tail in the defensive zone. Hunter has the guts to bench people who do that.

And for the comment about Syvret not making it still. That was why Kyle Quincy was taken. Syvret is better than Quincy and if Seabrook isn't good to go Quincy stays, if he is, then Quincy goes back to Mississauga.

That's funny because I don't recall all those other guys with 4 points in 2 games. But I guess that's just because they couldn't score on second tier talent.

This little hard on fetish for people against Knight's players is pretty amusing ever since they got media attention for their streak. And it's funny that I am seeing a lot of the same people making comments are the same ones who know absolutely nothing about the Knights.

Believe it or not, but Dale Hunter hasn't changed as a person from his playing days. He is every bit as demainding as Brent Sutter and oddly enough I haven't seen him babying the team around like some suggest. Is Corey Perry an offensive minded player, yes, but that doens't mean he doesn't cover his tail in the defensive zone. Hunter has the guts to bench people who do that.

And for the comment about Syvret not making it still. That was why Kyle Quincy was taken. Syvret is better than Quincy and if Seabrook isn't good to go Quincy stays, if he is, then Quincy goes back to Mississauga.



BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO :yo:

It's finally over, we can stop worrying about when it will end. Thanks for a truly remarkable run London Knights circa 2004-2005 :handclap:

Thank god this streak is over. Hopefully the Knights fans won't be as cocky as they have been throughout this year.

Thank god this streak is over. Hopefully the Knights fans won't be as cocky as they have been throughout this year.

We've never had reason to be before, but we weren't cocky per say, we were more..... proud of our boys, and don't tell me none of you guys wouldn't be so proud of a run this big if one of your teams did it, because that's a lie.

To all of the people who are complaining about us Knights fans, and our team:

Go **** yourselves.

It's finally over, we can stop worrying about when it will end. Thanks for a truly remarkable run London Knights circa 2004-2005 :handclap:
Well said - I am not a fan of the Knights, but this run is amazing, almost 4 full months without a loss is an incredible feat.

For the people who like to worry, here's one for you.... how long with this record stand? :)

Well said - I am not a fan of the Knights, but this run is amazing, almost 4 full months without a loss is an incredible feat.

For the people who like to worry, here's one for you.... how long with this record stand? :)
Well the Eagles won two in a row......they should be able to fit the record into the season.

Well said - I am not a fan of the Knights, but this run is amazing, almost 4 full months without a loss is an incredible feat.

For the people who like to worry, here's one for you.... how long with this record stand? :)


Who knows? We'll have to wait till we see a team that has as good a chemistry as the Knights did this year. Losing Schremp was the final nail in the coffin, and we here in London knew that they'd lose after losing Schremp, and possibly Bolland, Syvret and Perry, of course Bolland came back, so.....yeah. Oh well, us Knights fans can brag that with Rob Schremp in the lineup, we're 29-0-2-0 and with Perry and Syvret we're 28-0-2-0 lol

Congrats to the Boys! I kind of had a feeling they would lose one here while the World Jr's were taking place.

Congrats to the Boys! I kind of had a feeling they would lose one here while the World Jr's were taking place.
I had many games where I thought they'd lose, but I didn't say it because I didn't want to Jinx it.

We've never had reason to be before, but we weren't cocky per say, we were more..... proud of our boys, and don't tell me none of you guys wouldn't be so proud of a run this big if one of your teams did it, because that's a lie.

To all of the people who are complaining about us Knights fans, and our team:

Go **** yourselves.
I have talked to over 10 Knights fans tell me the Knights are a shoe-in to win the Memorial. But that's far from true. I can say right now that the Knights wouldn't be un-defeated in the WHL. I respect the Knights for what they have done and I would be proud if my team did what they did, but a lot of Knights fans(not all, but quite a few), have crossed the line to being ignorant.

I have talked to over 10 Knights fans tell me the Knights are a shoe-in to win the Memorial. But that's far from true. I can say right now that the Knights wouldn't be un-defeated in the WHL. I respect the Knights for what they have done and I would be proud if my team did what they did, but a lot of Knights fans(not all, but quite a few), have crossed the line to being ignorant.


You can't judge from this site alone, so many of us are just proud, not one of me nor my friends think we're a shoe in to grab the MC, but, we do feel that we have a superb chance. It's the first time we've had a team that's even MC worthy, and some fans just overstate what they feel.

Nobody's a lock for the Cup, the Knights do have a great chance though, but in a 1 and out playoffs once the round robin is done, anyone can beat anyone. The worst team in the CHL can beat any of the best teams on any given night, any team can have a bad game or not get the bounces or the calls, that being said I think the Knights have a great shot, playing in front of their home crowd and will probably be the favourite but you never know what one game brings

That's funny because I don't recall all those other guys with 4 points in 2 games. But I guess that's just because they couldn't score on second tier talent.

And he needed those points to make the team. If he hadn't scored, like some of the other guys didn't, he would have been cut. Give him full credit for producing, but at this point, he is the 13th forward. I expect him to do very well though. Every player he will be on a line with, will be better then him. He won't need to carry anybody. Sutter knows what he is doing, and because of that, Perry will be an asset.

This little hard on fetish for people against Knight's players is pretty amusing ever since they got media attention for their streak. And it's funny that I am seeing a lot of the same people making comments are the same ones who know absolutely nothing about the Knights.

Right place at the right time. If there was NHL games this year, nobody would know or care about the Knights outside of London. Remember when your University team was ripping it up, and nobody knew about that?

And I tell you what, I know more about the Knights then you do, so don't start with this "we don't know what we are talking about" crap. Take a look at this league outside of Ontario before you start think you know everything.

Believe it or not, but Dale Hunter hasn't changed as a person from his playing days. He is every bit as demainding as Brent Sutter and oddly enough I haven't seen him babying the team around like some suggest. Is Corey Perry an offensive minded player, yes, but that doens't mean he doesn't cover his tail in the defensive zone. Hunter has the guts to bench people who do that.

Oh the blinders have taken effect. Don't for one second disrespect Brent Sutter by comparing Dale Hunter to him. Sutter hasn't drafted four of his own family members in the last 5 years. He hasn't tried to cover up his nephew's drunk driving charge. He hasn't kept his son on the top line (top 3 scorer all year, and 1 point since Perry and Schremp left, hmmmm).

I would expect those blinders keep you from seeing what every educated hockey man has seen.

And for the comment about Syvret not making it still. That was why Kyle Quincy was taken. Syvret is better than Quincy and if Seabrook isn't good to go Quincy stays, if he is, then Quincy goes back to Mississauga.

I would expect if Quincey was still a Knight, and Syrvet was playing some where else, you'd be saying Quincey should make it and Syrvet would be axed. That's what is so funny about you Knight fans. You don't judge the player, you judge the uniform.

It's finally over, we can stop worrying about when it will end. Thanks for a truly remarkable run London Knights circa 2004-2005

Losing Schremp was the final nail in the coffin, and we here in London knew that they'd lose after losing Schremp, and possibly Bolland, Syvret and Perry, of course Bolland came back, so.....yeah. Oh well, us Knights fans can brag that with Rob Schremp in the lineup, we're 29-0-2-0 and with Perry and Syvret we're 28-0-2-0 lol

At some point, I'd love to see Knights fans give the Wolves some credit. The streak apparently ended because London was missing players right? Umm, HELLO!! Pretty sure Sudbury was a little short handed that game too.

Listen, it was going to end at some point. They had a couple lucky bounces just to get them where they were, so it should have ended weeks ago. But this is a telling tale for the Knights. They either looked past their opponent (mainly because of the suspensions) or showed they can't step it up as a team when their big guns are out. Again, not a good sign for the playoffs when a cold stick, injury or a great team effort can spell the end for them.

London 5 OS 4

I was at the game and I have to say it was the best regular season game i've ever seen live or on tv. It will probably be the best reg. season game in the CHL #1 London vs #2,3,4? Owen Sound, back and forth all game long.

London dominated physically, I don't think OS had more than 5 body checks, while London had hmmmm atleast 20 or more ...and some real doozies. London dominated most of the game, except the first 15 minutes of the 3rd period. I remember seeing the shots 35-20 for London, then 37-35 London and then London ended up dominating again and outshooting OS 52-40.

I have to give OS props for battling back a few times, but to be honest 2 of there goals were garbage, I don't know what the hell Hunter was thinking putting in MacDonald against OS. If Coleman was in net it would have been 3-1 or 4-2 London.

Either way I can't wait to watch these teams in the West finals :handclap:

On another note, I was surprised at how Ryan didn't really stand out. He had a few good moves but never created anything really. He is one big monster though, he could become a good NHLer one day.

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I am soo happy, I am soo happy ..................come to London Memorial Cup, were all waiting !!!!!!

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I am soo happy, I am soo happy ..................come to London Memorial Cup, were all waiting !!!!!!

:yo:

I love this trade. It's pretty aparent London is taking this team seriously. Fritche is going to add size and skill, which London is somewhat lacking. And Dennis was amazing against London earlier this season, if anything he'll either push Coleman to be better, or take over as number one, either way I only see great things from this trade.

The paper said today that the new lines will be:

"Hunter intends playing Fritsche on the No. 1 line with Corey Perry and Dylan Hunter. Brandon Prust will play with Rob Schremp and Dave Bolland, while the checking line will consist of Drew Larman, Josh Beaulieu and Trevor Kell. Kelly Thomson will play with Rob Drummond and Jordan Foreman on the fourth line."

The top two lines are now way better then before. Both of those lines had one player revolving and I don't expect that to change but this should help.

If we can get 5-6 picks back next yr then the future should also be just fine. London has to be considered the perenial favorite now even by the west :)

London has to be considered the perenial favorite now even by the west :)
No, not perennial favourites. This year, no question... next year, possibly but not anywhere near probable, but the years following? So many draft picks are gone now, and for the picks that are left, London will be drafting at the bottom of each round next year. London will have to make some incredible deals on the remaining 85's next year to be a favourite next year - historically, a team with that many overagers doesn't benefit as much as you'd think from trading them.

Don't get me wrong, if London wins the Memorial Cup this year, it will be worth it for the fans and the team, but don't think that you're going to see a team at the top of the standings for the next number of years.

The Knights lose a high quantity of players next season, so it is highly unlikely that they will compete for the Memorial Cup next season, which is why we have seen the push to make the team as stacked as possible.

They have two #1 lines, 3.5 top pairing defensemen, a phenominal checking line, and two #1 goalies.

Sorry I guess I used the wrong word. How about undisputed favorite not perenial. My mistake. I'm as worried about the knights next yr. as anyone..... sitting through 34 games when your team is crap isn't a lot of fun

Sorry I guess I used the wrong word. How about undisputed favorite not perenial. My mistake. I'm as worried about the knights next yr. as anyone..... sitting through 34 games when your team is crap isn't a lot of fun

They should be alright next year, but who knows about 2 or 3 years down the road.

The paper said today that the new lines will be:

"Hunter intends playing Fritsche on the No. 1 line with Corey Perry and Dylan Hunter. Brandon Prust will play with Rob Schremp and Dave Bolland, while the checking line will consist of Drew Larman, Josh Beaulieu and Trevor Kell. Kelly Thomson will play with Rob Drummond and Jordan Foreman on the fourth line."

Wow, you mean Dale Hunter is keeping his son on the #1 line while demoting Rob Schremp to second line duties.

I hope Dylan has a nice father's day gift for daddy dearest.

Dale Hunter, not only a disgrace to the OHL, but to hockey in general.

Pierre Turgeon, is that you disguised as Dion Mustard? I wish you had looked a little further into the line combinations before making your off the wall comments. Dale Hunter, wish or without the lineup he currently sports, is a solid coach. Whatever past transgressions you clearly have with him are no basis for calling him a "disgrace." Before you start with the I'm a homer stuff, I've had many up close and personal conversations with Dale and he is far from what you say. Having worked for a team playing against Hunter for a couple seasons, I've grown to hate the way he coaches but I still haev a little respect for a guy who goes out and has clearly proven himself to be a solid hockey coach.

And why would he remove Dylan Hunter from the first line? I dont care if Dylan's last name is McKenna, he deserves to be there. Minus Perry, Hunter has the most points on the CHL's #1 ranked team, certainly nothing to toss out a line combination, no matter what Fritsche may have to add. I agree 100% with the move, it makes sense to keep the ball rolling rather than adding (debateable here, this is another topic) an unproven OHL player in Fritsche than Schremp.

I'd keep going with more topics to prove my point, but I think I'd have to side with Devilsfanatic on this one.

Pierre Turgeon, is that you disguised as Dion Mustard? I wish you had looked a little further into the line combinations before making your off the wall comments. Dale Hunter, wish or without the lineup he currently sports, is a solid coach. Whatever past transgressions you clearly have with him are no basis for calling him a "disgrace." Before you start with the I'm a homer stuff, I've had many up close and personal conversations with Dale and he is far from what you say. Having worked for a team playing against Hunter for a couple seasons, I've grown to hate the way he coaches but I still haev a little respect for a guy who goes out and has clearly proven himself to be a solid hockey coach.

And why would he remove Dylan Hunter from the first line? I dont care if Dylan's last name is McKenna, he deserves to be there. Minus Perry, Hunter has the most points on the CHL's #1 ranked team, certainly nothing to toss out a line combination, no matter what Fritsche may have to add. I agree 100% with the move, it makes sense to keep the ball rolling rather than adding (debateable here, this is another topic) an unproven OHL player in Fritsche than Schremp.

I'd keep going with more topics to prove my point, but I think I'd have to side with Devilsfanatic on this one.

Why in the he** would Hunter mess up Perry and Hunter, they've been on the same line for the past 2 years and are either top scoring line or the 2nd (behind Crosby's line) in the CHL. And just to show how blind Dion is, Schremp had never played on the top line before a few weeks ago when he'd only play with Perry when a goal was needed. He has been on the 2nd line with Bolland and Prust/Steadman for the past 2 years.

And if Hunter is such a bad coach, then why is his team the best in OHL history last year and this year they will shatter their own record. What he has done in a 5 year period is close to a miracle. The players he drafted and traded for over the past 5 years have been trained so well that they are now the best in the country. And they play Dale Hunter hockey, which many may think sucks...... but he did play in the NHL for 19 years, and I saw his stats there were a few 80 point seasons in there. He never gave up on any shift and has instilled that attitude in all his players. Even before they were the best team in CHL they were knocking off top seeded teams in the playoffs every year when they were seeded 7th or 8th. Just ask the Plymouth Whalers how bad Hunter is at coaching. Before you run you walk, the Knights walked and are now more than running, their sprinting faster than Donovan Bailey did in 1996!

Pierre Turgeon, is that you disguised as Dion Mustard? I wish you had looked a little further into the line combinations before making your off the wall comments. Dale Hunter, wish or without the lineup he currently sports, is a solid coach. Whatever past transgressions you clearly have with him are no basis for calling him a "disgrace." Before you start with the I'm a homer stuff, I've had many up close and personal conversations with Dale and he is far from what you say. Having worked for a team playing against Hunter for a couple seasons, I've grown to hate the way he coaches but I still haev a little respect for a guy who goes out and has clearly proven himself to be a solid hockey coach.

He was just disciplined by the league for the 3rd time this year, and the season is only half over. In time he’s owned the team, he’s drafted every family member who played the sport. Multiple times, he, or one of his players/personal have had run ins with fans or other organization’s members. And he tried covering up his nephew’s drunk driving charge. He is a disgrace.

Let me remind you, Ted Nolan had a pretty good season, and even won Coach of the Year, but you’d be hard pressed to find what NHL team he has coached lately. In otherwords, it takes more then a good season to prove you are a “solid” coach. Let’s see how great he is in 2 years (if he hasn’t sold the team by then) when they have no prospects or draft picks.

And why would he remove Dylan Hunter from the first line? I dont care if Dylan's last name is McKenna, he deserves to be there. Minus Perry, Hunter has the most points on the CHL's #1 ranked team, certainly nothing to toss out a line combination, no matter what Fritsche may have to add. I agree 100% with the move, it makes sense to keep the ball rolling rather than adding (debateable here, this is another topic) an unproven OHL player in Fritsche than Schremp.

Put me on the top line, with the team with the best record in the OHL, and I’d rack up points too. )Sort of like how Perry picked up a few points playing with Crosby and Bergeron at the WJC.). Take Dylan off the top line, and let’s see just how good he really is. This will never happen for an extended amount of time, simply because Dylan Hunter is an average player. And without others carrying him, you’d see that pretty quickly.

Why in the he** would Hunter mess up Perry and Hunter, they've been on the same line for the past 2 years and are either top scoring line or the 2nd (behind Crosby's line) in the CHL. And just to show how blind Dion is, Schremp had never played on the top line before a few weeks ago when he'd only play with Perry when a goal was needed. He has been on the 2nd line with Bolland and Prust/Steadman for the past 2 years..

Schremp was "dropped" to Bolland's line. He played a large portion of the year with Perry. Schremp, Perry and Fritche all played at the WJC, Dylan wasn't even considered for a try out. Amazing though, he stays on the top line. Geez, I wonder if he's be there it someone else was coaching.

Why "would (he) mess up Perry and Hunter"? Well, maybe for the same reason he keep s drafting his kids, and giving them spots in a league they have no business being in. Dumbo Dale would never drop Dylan off Perry's line. Because then, it would show how bad Dylan really is (kinda of like how Logan and Steadman are proving with their new teams)

And if Hunter is such a bad coach, then why is his team the best in OHL history last year and this year they will shatter their own record. What he has done in a 5 year period is close to a miracle. The players he drafted and traded for over the past 5 years have been trained so well that they are now the best in the country. And they play Dale Hunter hockey, which many may think sucks...... but he did play in the NHL for 19 years, and I saw his stats there were a few 80 point seasons in there. He never gave up on any shift and has instilled that attitude in all his players. Even before they were the best team in CHL they were knocking off top seeded teams in the playoffs every year when they were seeded 7th or 8th. Just ask the Plymouth Whalers how bad Hunter is at coaching. Before you run you walk, the Knights walked and are now more than running, their sprinting faster than Donovan Bailey did in 1996!

So his team had more regular season points then anyone else has in the OHL (certainly not the CHL, as in 1 year, two WHL teams beat that mark) but yet wasn't able to not only win the Championship, but even get to the final, and that is a good thing. Wow, like I said, I guess you Knight fans need to find what ever small pathetic stat to make yourselves happy.

Why is it Dumbo Dale gets credit for ONE playoff win, but isn't to blame when they lose the next series? Little bit of a double standard there eh sport? I tell you what, when a coach does what Mike Babcock, or Darryl Sutter did, and take the underdogs past not only two teams, but get their team to one victory away from a Championship, then you can start talking about what a great job they did. But when you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel to give a guy credit for beating a team who was struggling, it shows how pathetic not only you are, but the team you cheer for.

Interesting. When I make comments like this, I get warnings. But yet, no mod has shown up here. I guess it's like the school yard (something that I'm sure trahans is still dealing with). When the smarter kid picks on the dumb one, the teacher has to step in. But when the little goof takes a shot, it's all OK. Not to worry, take your poke kiddo, you will be getting a lesson soon.

BTW, remind me how many Memorial Cups the Rangers have. Now, tell me how many the Knights have. Oppps. Geez, keep being proud of those regular season wings. I guess being a London fan, that's about all you can brag about.



Schremp was "dropped" to Bolland's line. He played a large portion of the year with Perry. Schremp, Perry and Fritche all played at the WJC, Dylan wasn't even considered for a try out. Amazing though, he stays on the top line. Geez, I wonder if he's be there it someone else was coaching.

Why "would (he) mess up Perry and Hunter"? Well, maybe for the same reason he keep s drafting his kids, and giving them spots in a league they have no business being in. Dumbo Dale would never drop Dylan off Perry's line. Because then, it would show how bad Dylan really is (kinda of like how Logan and Steadman are proving with their new teams)



This is where you show how stupid you are.

So his team had more regular season points then anyone else has in the OHL (certainly not the CHL, as in 1 year, two WHL teams beat that mark) but yet wasn't able to not only win the Championship, but even get to the final, and that is a good thing. Wow, like I said, I guess you Knight fans need to find what ever small pathetic stat to make yourselves happy.

Why is it Dumbo Dale gets credit for ONE playoff win, but isn't to blame when they lose the next series? Little bit of a double standard there eh sport? I tell you what, when a coach does what Mike Babcock, or Darryl Sutter did, and take the underdogs past not only two teams, but get their team to one victory away from a Championship, then you can start talking about what a great job they did. But when you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel to give a guy credit for beating a team who was struggling, it shows how pathetic not only you are, but the team you cheer for.


Bravo Bravo Bravo :bow: :bow: :bow:

You are the #1 JEALOUS FAN of the LONDON KNIGHTS !!!!!!!!!!! :dunce: :dunce:

Bravo Bravo Bravo :bow: :bow: :bow:

You are the #1 JEALOUS FAN of the LONDON KNIGHTS !!!!!!!!!!! :dunce: :dunce:

Yep, you got me.

I think it's great that this is your response. What's the matter, can't stay on topic and discuss the matter?

BTW, remind me how many Memorial Cups the Rangers have. Now, tell me how many the Knights have. Oppps. Geez, keep being proud of those regular season wings. I guess being a London fan, that's about all you can brag about.

You can talk all you want about the past but the only thing that matters is how well they're doing this year. Winning the Memorial Cup two years ago doesn't mean **** all now. Bottom line is the Knights dominated the Rangers this year and are going to the Memorial Cup. Better luck next year.

Originally Posted by Dion Mustard
BTW, remind me how many Memorial Cups the Rangers have. Now, tell me how many the Knights have. Oppps. Geez, keep being proud of those regular season wings. I guess being a London fan, that's about all you can brag about.

What does 6-0 mean to you this year.. :yo: Oh yeah thats the Knights record against the Rangers.

my second fav team is Kitchener and cheer for them when london is out... yes theyve won in the past but this is londons year... admit it :amazed:

my second fav team is Kitchener and cheer for them when london is out... yes theyve won in the past but this is londons year... admit it :amazed:

See, this is the type of post that bothers me, as an Owen Sound fan, London has won nothing yet.

TO LONDON FANS: nothing is guaranteed. this is why they play the games. your streak is over, it was cool and a great accomplishment and all, and i give major congrats and props to the knights for achieveing it, but it's over. play some hockey.

the hardest championship to win is the first one

TO LONDON FANS: nothing is guaranteed. this is why they play the games. your streak is over, it was cool and a great accomplishment and all, and i give major congrats and props to the knights for achieveing it, but it's over. play some hockey.

the hardest championship to win is the first one

Along with the first championship the memorial cup is really tough in general. I don't care how good my knights play anything can happen in a short round robin tourny. They could arrive the favorites and pull a Guelph storm.... one goal ? That is why "they play the games" and that is why I'm not selling any of my tickets for the cup.

Schremp was "dropped" to Bolland's line. He played a large portion of the year with Perry. Schremp, Perry and Fritche all played at the WJC, Dylan wasn't even considered for a try out. Amazing though, he stays on the top line. Geez, I wonder if he's be there it someone else was coaching.


While Hunter may not be the greatest prospect, he's doing well in the O, and if his dad wasn't the coach, I could still see him on line 1. It's called balance. Why put Schremp on a line with Fritsche and Perry to have an amazing scoring attack, and then have Bolland, Hunter and Prust? Those top two lines are terrific, and it makes for a nice scoring balance. The power-play is when you put all your guns on the same unit, not even strength.

BTW, I can't even remember when Schremp last played with Perry on a regular line. They've kept that scoring balance for most of the year, and aquiring Fritsche just made the top line more potent.


IMO, agreeing with Knights fans, this is London's year. They have an amazing offensive attack, good defense, and it seems fitting they win it at home.

See, this is the type of post that bothers me, as an Owen Sound fan, London has won nothing yet.

They have won nothing yet, and as it has been said several times, nothing is guaranteed at all. The Knights have to be considered the favourite to win both the OHL title and the Memorial Cup at this point in time, but being the favourite doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot to most teams. If anything it usually does more damage than good as the pressure is shifted onto you to perform up to the top level expectations. Just like people who actually believed the Knights could go undefeated on the season, it just wasn't going to happen.

Hockey is very fickle when it comes to bounces, it takes a bad bounce in Game 1 of a series that has a team up late in a game only to lose the game in OT, and all of a sudden your confidence is shot and suddenly you find yourself down 3-0 on the road going into game 4. If a goalie gets hot at the right time there isn't much you can do about it.

I still feel that this year is going to be special for Knights fans, those who have suffered for so long, and those who have not been around long - not the bandwagon ones though, they can just jump off now because nobody likes them - the team has the right mix of talent and heart to win, along with possibly the best goaltending tandem in the country right now with the way Coleman is playing and the way Dennis is capable of playing...besides if the Knights are being stonewalled by the opposition, they can just send Dennis out on the ice to jump the goalie and land a few more of those sweet uppercuts ;).

And for those who continue to jump on the Dylan Hunter beatdown, he has 71 points. It isn't as if the guy is hanging on for dear life putting up a point a week, the guy is consistently contributing offensively on the Knights top unit. He has 24 goals and 47 assists. Perry isn't Lemieux where some hobo could come in off the street and be a 50 goal scorer. He is a great offensive talent, but he isn't so good that he makes his entire line filled with superstars when they are really 4th line plugger players.

And talking of pathetic, that is when you continue to hang around making pointless arguments against a team for no other reason than to start trouble. The Knights have always been regarded as built for this year, not last year. Last year Guelph was the team built for last year. They lost to the team that provided better goaltending last year in the the West Final, they didn't lose to some team that came out of nowhere. Guelph didn't get half as much credit as they deserved last year for the work they put in with their team.

Saying the Knights lost is fair, but to say they choked isn't because Guelph was the team with the veteran leadership in that series, not the Knights.

On the news front, Prust will be out up to a month with a fractured jaw that he received last week. He played the weekend games with the injury but was tested and will be out for a while. A tough loss for the Knights lineup.

That sucks that prust is out, but that makes the Fritche trade look that much more important doesn't it. GO Knights Go

London 3
Owen Sound 2

Dennis played a great game and may just become the #1 goalie if he continues to come up big like that!!!!

Oh yeah, now London has won 4 out of 5 games w/ Owen Sound

London 3
Owen Sound 2

Dennis played a great game and may just become the #1 goalie if he continues to come up big like that!!!!

Oh yeah, now London has won 4 out of 5 games w/ Owen Sound


That was a great game, gave me a lot of confidence.

Owen Sound outshot and outplayed London without Bobby Ryan, who is arguably our best player. Dennis looked shaky early but he was the only reason the Knights escaped with two points in the 3rd.

We also shut down their potent powerplay without Bobby, who is one of our best penalty killer.

Great game, and gives me a lot of hope for this team.

That is the big advantage that Dennis gives to the Knights. Coleman has been dominant in the Brodeur type fashion where the Knights outshoot everybody and he faces 20-30+ shots, which is a little lower on the OHL front.

Dennis is the guy who has proven he can step it up in the big shot total games.

I didn't get a chance to see the game, but I did listen to it on the radio and it sounded like it would have been a good game to be at the rink for.

That was a great game, gave me a lot of confidence.

Owen Sound outshot and outplayed London without Bobby Ryan, who is arguably our best player. Dennis looked shaky early but he was the only reason the Knights escaped with two points in the 3rd.

We also shut down their potent powerplay without Bobby, who is one of our best penalty killer.

Great game, and gives me a lot of hope for this team.


I'm pretty confident too with a 4-1 record against OS :yo:

I'm pretty confident too with a 4-1 record against OS :yo:

Still the two team's haven't faced with full line-ups.

No offence to London fans but Ryan>>>>>>>>Prust.

Still the two team's haven't faced with full line-ups.

No offence to London fans but Ryan>>>>>>>>Prust.


I agree Ryan is better than Prust, but regardless when the lineups have been at full strenth its been 3-0 London ....oh yeah

and its 12-1 with 17 minutes left in 3rd period...

I think Fritsche and Bolland have found some chemistry with 6 points each....

and perry isnt playing too shabby with 20 points in last 6 games including 4g 1a today :yo: :yo:

this is what both kingston goalies look like today :help: :help: :lol

13-1???? Kingston....yikes. :shakehead

13-1???? Kingston....yikes. :shakehead

14-1
perry 5 goals
yowzers

14-1
perry 5 goals
yowzers
And that folks is your final.

Looks like Perry still has a decent shot at breaking the KNights all time record for points.... I think he needs 40 points in the last 20 games to do it. If he has a few more nights like tonight he'll be sure to break it.

14-1
perry 5 goals
yowzers
That was embarassing...

I agree Ryan is better than Prust, but regardless when the lineups have been at full strenth its been 3-0 London ....oh yeah



Don't know where you're coming form there, the Attack have not played the Knights with a full lineup.

Don't know where you're coming form there, the Attack have not played the Knights with a full lineup.

...unless you count Oct 15, Oct 23, Jan 9 or Jan 29.

...unless you count Oct 15, Oct 23, Jan 9 or Jan 29.

Psst..Read the boxscores.

Oct 15- No Big Snake Brown or Bissonette

Oct 23-No Brown or Biss

Jan 9-No Biss or Lehun or Angelidis I think

Jan 29-No Ryan or Angelidis

The Knights have played the majority of the tough games on the schedule.

The bad side is that they play 11 of 19 games aw