Lines....

Hey Ducks fans...

What lines do you expect RWer Joffrey Lupul and LWer Stanislav Chistov to be on?

Lemme guess...

Chistov-Fedorov-Sykora
LeClerc-Rucchin-Lupul

Is that right?

We won't know for a long time. I doubt Chistov gets another shot at the top line right away, though.

Hey Ducks fans...

What lines do you expect RWer Joffrey Lupul and LWer Stanislav Chistov to be on?

Lemme guess...

Chistov-Fedorov-Sykora
LeClerc-Rucchin-Lupul

Is that right?

who knows...Sykora could be traded...Neidermayer is likely to play in the top 6...

I don't think Sykora will be dealt unless the ducks can sign someone else.

What I would do?

Niedermayer-Fedorov-Sykora
Leclerc-Rucchin-Lupul
Chistov-Pahlsson-Getzlaf

Thats a pretty good top 3 as long as their healthy.

I don't think Sykora will be dealt unless the ducks can sign someone else.

What I would do?

Niedermayer-Fedorov-Sykora
Leclerc-Rucchin-Lupul
Chistov-Pahlsson-Getzlaf

Thats a pretty good top 3 as long as their healthy.

Dude, get Getzlaf the hell out of there

Dude, get Getzlaf the hell out of there
Thats where he's gonna be.

McDonald could probably be in that spot but Getzlaf is a physical player.

hopefully babcock doesn't do anything stupid and put Fedorov with Burnett and Holmqvist.

Thats where he's gonna be.

Has he even signed a deal yet??

Why so eager to throw him into the NHL, we have plenty of other 3rd line guys who can do the job. Give the kid time to develop

It depends if you think he's NHL ready.

It probably wouldn't be wise throwing him on a line with chistov anyways, one rookie and one guy who at times is prone to mistakes...not even sammy could cover them.

It could be McDonald or Holmqvist, i'm sure the team will use the rookie tournament as tool to see where he's at. I'd just like to have a physical player in there.

It depends if you think he's NHL ready.

It probably wouldn't be wise throwing him on a line with chistov anyways, one rookie and one guy who at times is prone to mistakes...not even sammy could cover them.

It could be McDonald or Holmqvist, i'm sure the team will use the rookie tournament as tool to see where he's at. I'd just like to have a physical player in there.

We drafted Getlaf to be a scoring center. Not a physical 3rd line grinder. We can find plenty of those right now via free agency. I just don;t see a point in rushing him along like so many of you want to do.

We drafted Getlaf to be a scoring center. Not a physical 3rd line grinder. We can find plenty of those right now via free agency. I just don;t see a point in rushing him along like so many of you want to do.
True. Although I would like to see what he can do in the NHL this season, we have enough players who can play on the top three lines.

I'll give it a try:
Chistov - Fedorov - Sykora
Niedermayer - Rucchin - Lupul
Leclerc - Pahlsson - McDonald

You can always switch McDonald and Chistov, if Chistov is not ready again. And with Kunitz and Holmqvist are players around who can fill in on the third line if necessary.

I'll give it a try:
Chistov - Fedorov - Sykora
Niedermayer - Rucchin - Lupul
Leclerc - Pahlsson - McDonald

You can always switch McDonald and Chistov, if Chistov is not ready again. And with Kunitz and Holmqvist are players around who can fill in on the third line if necessary.

Problem with playing McDonald on the wing is who is going to center the 4th line? I like

Niedermayer Fedorov Sykora
Chistov Rucchin Lupul
Leclerc McDonald Holmqvist
Smirnov/Kunitz Pahlsson Burnett

Of course I'd like them a lot better with Prospal in Chistov's spot, but what can you do. Certainly no room for Getzlaf on this team IMO.

Problem with playing McDonald on the wing is who is going to center the 4th line? I like

Niedermayer Fedorov Sykora
Chistov Rucchin Lupul
Leclerc McDonald Holmqvist
Smirnov/Kunitz Pahlsson Burnett

Of course I'd like them a lot better with Prospal in Chistov's spot, but what can you do. Certainly no room for Getzlaf on this team IMO.
IMO Pahlsson is a waste on the 4th line. He is an energy player and capable of logging lots of minutes as shutdown player. I definitly think he should fill more than a fourth line role with maximum 12 minutes per game, if that.

Holmqvist can play center, even Kunitz has played center before. Maybe even one of Cincy's centers (Perreault for example) could fill the fourth line center spot.

IMO Pahlsson is a waste on the 4th line. He is an energy player and capable of logging lots of minutes as shutdown player. I definitly think he should fill more than a fourth line role with maximum 12 minutes per game, if that.

Pahlsson is too offensively challenged for the 3rd line. And regarding playing time, Fedorov is going to eat 23 minutes and Rucchin is going to eat another 20. That doesn't leave a whole lot for the 3rd/4th centers anyway. He'll get 6-8 mintues at even strength either way and then kill penalties to get more minutes.

Holmqvist can play center, even Kunitz has played center before. Maybe even one of Cincy's centers (Perreault for example) could fill the fourth line center spot.

Doesn't make sense. You want a center to play wing (McDonald) and to make it happen you fill the empty center spot with a winger. Just leave every body in their nature position, IMO.

Or bring in a gritty Mike Sillinger type guy to play 4th line center. That could be the best solution.

Pahlsson is too offensively challenged for the 3rd line.




Pahlsson is a perfect 3rd line center. He will be our 3rd line center for a long time I hope.

Why would you demote God to the fourth line?Over the past two years he's been really good in the third line role. Who cares if he's not a great scorer?McDonald isn't a bull on the puck like Sammy is.

Plus at the end of last year Sammy showed he could score some goals.

Pahlsson is too offensively challenged for the 3rd line. And regarding playing time, Fedorov is going to eat 23 minutes and Rucchin is going to eat another 20. That doesn't leave a whole lot for the 3rd/4th centers anyway. He'll get 6-8 mintues at even strength either way and then kill penalties to get more minutes.



Doesn't make sense. You want a center to play wing (McDonald) and to make it happen you fill the empty center spot with a winger. Just leave every body in their nature position, IMO.

Or bring in a gritty Mike Sillinger type guy to play 4th line center. That could be the best solution.
Fedorov - Rucchin - Pahlsson are the Ducks top three for the center position. Andy McDonald has played center and both wing positions in his career but if no one of the top three gets injured, McDonald will play some wing position on the first three lines.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/player_bio.asp?player_name=Andy+McDonald&hubName=ANA

Pahlssons offensive game has progressed over his seasons with the Ducks and as he is a hard-working player I expect this trend to continue. He 'll always be better known for his defensive abilities, but that's what I expect from a third line center.

Thanks for the replies!

Another question... how many points do you see Chistov, Lupul, and Niedermayer putting up? (Fantasy hockey question)

Thanks in advance.

-TML

Pahlsson is a perfect 3rd line center.

On a team that wants the 2nd worst Goals For in the league.

On a team that wants the 2nd worst Goals For in the league.

Our whole team is offensivly challenged. Mine as wll have at least one guy who plays solid defense in there.

Sami was by far our best player last season in terms of work ethic and heart and Babcock saw that. No way he throws him to the 4th line.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/player_bio.asp?player_name=Andy+McDonald&hubName=ANA



Your link doesn't really support that, all it says is that McDonald can play any forward position and his career potential is the 3rd line.

Pahlsson's bio on the same site pegs him as a checking line forward... the 4th line. His flaws there are right on: "Flaws - Needs to produce more points at the NHL level. Doesn't shoot enough when in good scoring position."

When its all said, I prefer McDonald on the wing since he doesn't have the size for a 3rd line center. But looking at the Ducks' personel that's where he fits the best.

On a team that wants the 2nd worst Goals For in the league.

don't blame that on Pahlsson, Babcock said Pahlsson was the best player almost every game for the Ducks.

Pahlsson's bio on the same site pegs him as a checking line forward... the 4th line.

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3rd line: Checking line, match against the other teams top players.

4th line: Energy line, hitting-fighting, Burnett and previously Severson.

Pahlsson is not a 4th liner.

Our whole team is offensivly challenged. Mine as wll have at least one guy who plays solid defense in there.

So instead of fixing the problem you ignore it? Fedorov and Rucchin aren't solid defensively?

Damn, I didn't think the idea of Pahlsson on the 4th line would be that big of a deal.

3rd line: Checking line, match against the other teams top players.

4th line: Energy line, hitting-fighting, Burnett and previously Severson.

Pahlsson is not a 4th liner.

Ha, I knew the "energy line" would come up. I almost said something about it to save myself the trouble of replying to another message.

All an "energy line" is is an excuse to ice a mediocre team. Burnett and Severson are both AHL players, that says all you need to know about "energy lines".

So instead of fixing the problem you ignore it? Fedorov and Rucchin aren't solid defensively?

Damn, I didn't think the idea of Pahlsson on the 4th line would be that big of a deal.

Typically you leave the scoring to the top 2 lines, and typically the 3rd line is a line that is focused on defense.

If you want to fix the scoring problem we should not be sitting here bickering over Pahlsson, we should be discussing why our top 6 forwards can't get the job done.

I feel Pahlsson makes this team better overall playing on the 3rd line rather than the 4th.

To make a statement like we have the 2nd worst goals for and then saying we need a more offensive 3rd line center doesn't get at the root of your issue. Changing our 3rd line center won't drasticallly change our scoring woes is my point. My point is Pahlsson does this team the most good playing on the 3rd line not the 4th like you think.

Why are some of you perpetually negative? The only way this team will get crosby is if Fedorov is traded for nothing, Giguere misses 50 games and Carney hurts his ankle again.

theres to much talent to be that bad.

Ha, I knew the "energy line" would come up. I almost said something about it to save myself the trouble of replying to another message.

All an "energy line" is is an excuse to ice a mediocre team. Burnett and Severson are both AHL players, that says all you need to know about "energy lines".

Unless your Detroit and can have your checking players (Draper,Maltby) on your fourth line, its normal to have:

1st line: Scoring
2nd line: Scoring
3rd line: Checking
4th line: Energy

Typically you leave the scoring to the top 2 lines, and typically the 3rd line is a line that is focused on defense.

If you want to fix the scoring problem we should not be sitting here bickering over Pahlsson, we should be discussing why our top 6 forwards can't get the job done.

To make a statement like we have the 2nd worst goals for and then saying we need a more offensive 3rd line center doesn't get at the root of your issue. Changing our 3rd line center won't drasticallly change our scoring woes is my point. My point is Pahlsson does this team the most good playing on the 3rd line not the 4th like you think.

I agree 100%. Prospal should still be on this team and the 3rd line should be Niedermayer, Rucchin, and Leclerc - all of them replaced in the top 6 with better players. But we both know that won't happen.

So get more scoring from a realistic/possible place... the 3rd line. Not only does that make the 3rd line a lot better it makes the 4th line a lot better.

Unless your Detroit and can have your checking players (Draper,Maltby) on your fourth line, its normal to have:

1st line: Scoring
2nd line: Scoring
3rd line: Checking
4th line: Energy

Dude, I don't care what you call the lines.

The fact is the Ducks don't score enough and compared to at least the top 10 teams a big part of the difference is what is produced by the 3rd line.

Look at Vancouver, they have the same number of 30 goal scorers (1), fewer 20 goal scorers (1) and still managed to score 47 more total goals.

Look at Nashville, the had no 30 goal scorers and 1 20. They still outscored the Ducks by 28.

Etc, Etc.

You all act like MORE SCORING from the 3rd line is a bad thing :dunno:

theres to much talent to be that bad.

There's less talent than last year, and last year was bad.

There's less talent than last year, and last year was bad.
I think having a healthy Carney, Rucchin and Sykora makes this team more talented...I think Giguere just playing like he did before last season makes the team more talented...I also think having Leclerc more than 10 games makes the team more talented.

I'm sorry you don't see these things.

Problem with playing McDonald on the wing is who is going to center the 4th line? I like

Niedermayer Fedorov Sykora
Chistov Rucchin Lupul
Leclerc McDonald Holmqvist
Smirnov/Kunitz Pahlsson Burnett

Of course I'd like them a lot better with Prospal in Chistov's spot, but what can you do. Certainly no room for Getzlaf on this team IMO.

Man this team is gonna be terrible...Crosby sweepstakes it is