ANA/PHO Proposal

Phoneix just got a winger in a trade, along with the Defenseman they were looking for. OLEG SAPRYKIN is the young winger that they got. It looks like they were really after the defenseman though so having the winger in the deal also might either be just to add depth to the team, or for a potential trade. In my opinion, Oleg Saprykin could be just the player the team needs right now. The Ducks have said in the past that a player they would like to add would be a player that adds energy to the team, to inspire the other all-stars on the team to play better, even if the player only adds in about something like 9-12 to goals a year...something like that. And at 24 years old, Oleg...who had 12 goals last season, still has potential to be a top goal scorer. Heck, Niedermeyer is almost 30 and he had 12 goals last year. And some people still think he will get 20 goals one of these days. But seriously, another thing that is good about this player is that he is Russian. This might inspire Federov. The player he most was excited about playing with when coming from Detroit was Chistov. Is it any coincidence he is Russian? I guess Russians get inspired to play when competeing with other Russian linemates. Just look back at the game Chistov scored a goal last year. What does Federov do? He comes back with a goal of his own that game. My point is, this guy could be a role player for the team. And Coates said he would like to add one or two. This guy, with Federov and Chistov might turn out decent, one that can replace Prospal.
As much as it would stink, I can see Sykora getting traded. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing his sent to Phoneix. After all, Phoneix is starting to look like an all-star team...with all of the additions they have. I am sure they would be more then happy to add another awesome player to their team, with Sykora. So the trade proposal is:
to Phoneix: Sykora and 2nd round draft pick
to Anaheim: Oleg Saprykin and Enver Lisin

-OLEG SAPRYKIN -FEDEROV -CHISTOV

Enver Lisin is the guy I posted a while back that I thought the Ducks should draft. Of course, they ended up going with a Defenseman instead. But to prove how good he is, he is already #7 on the Coyotes top prospect list. And I don't even think he was picked in the 1st round. Turns out my prediction might have been right...he might be an awesome player.

The value is about right, but I don't think Phoenix is in the position to take on another 4 million a year contract. If for some reason you were willing to take on Brian Savage at 3.5 million as a throw in, then you'd get some interest.

That might be an idea. The Ducks might be able to get Brian Savage and the player they were just traded for Sykora. That might be worth looking at. Also, about the article I posted yesterday, I have also had friends who were star-athletes but have turned to partying and now don't know what direction in life they are going. I am 21 and so I could drink now if I wanted to. But I have chosen not to drink so far. Anyways, back to the article, I wonder how good that player would have been if he had not had the drinking problem. Who knows. By the way, what type of player is Brian Savage?

By the way, what type of player is Brian Savage?

Always injured, over the hill, overrated, overpaid, old fart.
Adam, you're nut. :shakehead

-Brett Hull -Petr Nedved -Ladislav Nagy
-Mike Johnson -Mike Comrie -Shane Doan
-Oleg Saprykin -Mike Ricci -Brian Savage
-Mike Rupp -Boyd Devereaux -Tyson Nash

-Paul Mara -Derek Morris
-Denis Gauthier -Sean O’ Donnell
-Matthew Spiller -Cale Hulse

-Brent Johnson
-Brian Boucher

Enver Lisin is the guy I posted a while back that I thought the Ducks should draft. Of course, they ended up going with a Defenseman instead. But to prove how good he is, he is already #7 on the Coyotes top prospect list.

Wow, that IS proof.

please close this thread. tired of this stuff.

*still waiting for Adam's full depth chart for the Ducks after this move*

Saprykin is terribely overrated, he has about 3 or 4 good playoff games and he's this great prospect...he has 29 career goals.

Sykora has about 200, why help Phoenix?Let them deal with an unmotivated euro.

Saprykin is terribely overrated, he has about 3 or 4 good playoff games and he's this great prospect...he has 29 career goals.

Sykora has about 200, why help Phoenix?Let them deal with an unmotivated euro.

You must be Don Cherry' son.
You argue about Saprykin who is a legit prospect but you DON'T argue about taking the salary of a terrible overpayed old fart like Savage.
Wow :dunno:

By the way, what type of player is Brian Savage?

Very streaky 20 goal scorer. A couple years in the late 90s, he was amongst the goal scoring leaders early in the season.......but always went cold by season's end. Phoenix made a pretty bad 4 year, 14 million dollar investment in him and they have two years left on that. They literally rented him to St. Louis last year for their playoff run....ie, the Blues did not give them even a draft pick, they merely paid what remained of his salary that year. And the Blues did that on the condition that the Coyotes would immediately take him back after the season.

Phoenix probably wouldn't mind finding a taker for Brad Ference and his 1.5 million dollar salary.

I can't ban people for being idiots. Every village has one. This board is no different.

No one here's an idiot. Just some poor confused souls.

The Coyotes would be happy to get rid of Savage, with their latest acquisitions they don't need his scoring or veteran presence anymore. IMO Barnett will hold onto Saprykin to see what kind of potential they can unlock in him with more offensive players surrounding him. He's got wheels and talent, he needs the opportunity to show them.

Phoneix just got a winger in a trade, along with the Defenseman they were looking for. OLEG SAPRYKIN is the young winger that they got. It looks like they were really after the defenseman though so having the winger in the deal also might either be just to add depth to the team, or for a potential trade. In my opinion, Oleg Saprykin could be just the player the team needs right now. The Ducks have said in the past that a player they would like to add would be a player that adds energy to the team, to inspire the other all-stars on the team to play better, even if the player only adds in about something like 9-12 to goals a year...something like that. And at 24 years old, Oleg...who had 12 goals last season, still has potential to be a top goal scorer. Heck, Niedermeyer is almost 30 and he had 12 goals last year. And some people still think he will get 20 goals one of these days. But seriously, another thing that is good about this player is that he is Russian. This might inspire Federov. The player he most was excited about playing with when coming from Detroit was Chistov. Is it any coincidence he is Russian? I guess Russians get inspired to play when competeing with other Russian linemates. Just look back at the game Chistov scored a goal last year. What does Federov do? He comes back with a goal of his own that game. My point is, this guy could be a role player for the team. And Coates said he would like to add one or two. This guy, with Federov and Chistov might turn out decent, one that can replace Prospal.
As much as it would stink, I can see Sykora getting traded. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing his sent to Phoneix. After all, Phoneix is starting to look like an all-star team...with all of the additions they have. I am sure they would be more then happy to add another awesome player to their team, with Sykora. So the trade proposal is:
to Phoneix: Sykora and 2nd round draft pick
to Anaheim: Oleg Saprykin and Enver Lisin

-OLEG SAPRYKIN -FEDEROV -CHISTOV

So you're saying we should trade probably our best goal scorer and a 2nd round pick to a division rival for their third line left winger and a prospect who you like. While Saprykin could and probably will be better than what he is now, we have Chistov, so there's no use for him. All that move does is shed Sykora's contract, and if we take on Brian Savage, which would be the worst move this organization's made since, well, ever, that would be pointless. And why does Phoenix do this? They're already stacked in the top four, and all this move does is force them to either trade Mike Johnson for something, or move one of him or Sykora to the third line.

From Adam's post it's pretty clear he has no clue about who the hell is Savage or what kind of player he is.

Maybe it's better to lock this one before other attacks, it's like shoot on the Red Cross.

You must be Don Cherry' son.
You argue about Saprykin who is a legit prospect but you DON'T argue about taking the salary of a terrible overpayed old fart like Savage.
Wow :dunno:
Savage stinks too, I was just talking about Saprykin.

Saprykin is not worth Sykora unless we get Mike Comrie too.

With that huge salary, Sykora isn't going anywhere. Maybe only the Rangers, Detroit and Toronto can afford him, but they aren't exactly loaded with interesting prospects.

With that huge salary, Sykora isn't going anywhere. Maybe only the Rangers, Detroit and Toronto can afford him, but they aren't exactly loaded with interesting prospects.

Colaiacovo sounds nice. He's also be good in Toronto, especially if he goes on the left side.

With that huge salary, Sykora isn't going anywhere. Maybe only the Rangers, Detroit and Toronto can afford him, but they aren't exactly loaded with interesting prospects.
After last season our best bet is to hold onto pete, he had a severe left wrist injury for a large chunk of the year. He still had a decent goal output, he's going to play better, lets remember two years ago he had 34 goals and was a 30 goal threat before that he's also only 27.

To trade a 27 year old whose scored about 200 career goals is insane to me, he's going to play better, he plays hard everynight. We just need Fedorov to be smarter and not make passes where he wants guys to be, instead he needs to make passes to where guys are. How many times last year did Fedorov make a pass 10 feet away from someone because he *thought* they'd be somewhere? I look at last season as alot of guys had down years(Giguere,Rucchin,Leclerc,Sykora,Fedorov,Chist ov,Carney,Ozolinsh)

Those guys will not play that bad again(In Leclercs case he should play more than 10 games). I mean if you look at the roster it's a good team we just have to hope guys play like their supposed to and stay relatively healthy...Oleg Saprykin and Enserwhatever for Sykora and a 2nd is just stupid.

I'd rather the Ducks not trade Sykora either. I've always liked him going back to his days in NJ. It's just his salary is the most logical one to be unloaded next.

Actually, bias aside, Fedorov's salary is the most logical to be moved, since he is both older and more expensive than Sykora.

From a rebuilding perspective, anyway.

Actually, bias aside, Fedorov's salary is the most logical to be moved, since he is both older and more expensive than Sykora.

From a rebuilding perspective, anyway.
The reason I don't think that will happen is it would be disasterous from a PR/attendance standpoint. A lot more casual hockey fans will pay to see Fedorov play than see Sykora play.

I'd rather they trade Fedorov though.

Actually Fedorov has still a big value as for trades and if we suck like last year people aren't going to watch the Ducks anyway.

Actually Fedorov has still a big value as for trades and if we suck like last year people aren't going to watch the Ducks anyway.
I'd say Fedorov has greater trade value than Sykora, despite their respective ages.

I guarantee you if either Fedorov or Sykora gets traded it won't make a damn bit of difference in attendance - that's a myth IMO.

Whenver there's hockey again, people will have some sort of different pespective.

I guarantee you if either Fedorov or Sykora gets traded it won't make a damn bit of difference in attendance - that's a myth IMO.

Whenver there's hockey again, people will have some sort of different pespective.
I have to agree there with CFOB...since WITH both of the players on the roster the Pond was still not sold out, I'm not that sure of how many of the fans were there just because of any one player. The same held true when Karyia was still here, the Pond sat half empty most games, so it makes no sense to keep high salaried players just with the idea that they are the reason any of the fans come. :dunno:

We win, fans show up (at least while we're winning). The same situation exists all over the NHL.

We win, fans show up (at least while we're winning). The same situation exists all over the NHL.
:yo: Exactly!!!!