Series Talk: WCSF Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers. (Series tied 3-3)

You prediction for this series?

  • Vancouver in 7

    Votes: 190 16.9%
  • Vancouver in 6

    Votes: 191 17.0%
  • Vancouver in 5

    Votes: 46 4.1%
  • Vancouver in 4

    Votes: 40 3.6%
  • Edmonton in 7

    Votes: 82 7.3%
  • Edmonton in 6

    Votes: 362 32.2%
  • Edmonton in 5

    Votes: 174 15.5%
  • Edmonton in 4

    Votes: 40 3.6%

  • Total voters
    1,125
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Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers
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PuckG

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Oiler fans are arrogant though. You guys see no other team as your equal. You give your opponents no respect at all. every team other than like 3 other teams in the league are completely inferior . Cup or Bust proves this . You are yet to even make the Finals with this core. Every time you guys lose its a grand conspiracy as to why. You can't lose with any humility at all.
It all makes sense why you’re so confused. The conspiracy narrative has been coming from your camp - no wonder you’re all up in arms getting confused between teams!
 
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Video Nasty

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Oiler fans are arrogant though. You guys see no other team as your equal. You give your opponents no respect at all. every team other than like 3 other teams in the league are completely inferior . Cup or Bust proves this .

Ah, no.

The phrase “Cup or bust” means that the team (and everyone else) views their own season as a failure if they don’t accomplish that goal. They’ve been contenders for a few seasons now and have played in each round of the Western Conference playoffs by this point. Setting the highest expectations for yourself is not a slight against everyone else.
 
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Billy Kvcmu

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Outside of the 3rd period of game 1 and 10 mins of game 4. Oilers as a team dominated the series

Outside of the 3rd period of game 1 and 10 mins of game 4. Oilers as a team dominated the series
Because they were mostly chasing the game

Ah, no.

The phrase “Cup or bust” means that the team (and everyone else) views their own season as a failure if they don’t accomplish that goal. They’ve been contenders for a few seasons now and have played in each round of the Western Conference playoffs by this point. Setting the highest expectations for yourself is not a slight against everyone else.
Even if they make it to the WCF, they have no chance of beating Dallas or Colorado

More like pretender
 
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Spawn

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Oiler fans are arrogant though. You guys see no other team as your equal. You give your opponents no respect at all. every team other than like 3 other teams in the league are completely inferior . Cup or Bust proves this . You are yet to even make the Finals with this core. Every time you guys lose its a grand conspiracy as to why. You can't lose with any humility at all.

You guys can easily lose this series. Or win it. It can honestly go either way. It was laughable you guys kept saying easiest path to the WCF ever.

If and when the Canucks lose I won't make any excuses. The better team will have won and we will go into the next season and build on it. I'm proud of how far my team has made it. We have a bright future as long as Petey can figure his life out. We will be back.

Oiler fans aren’t the ones who said this was the easiest path to the WCF. It was everyone else around here. You don’t like your team disrespected take it up with them.

You still see it from constantly see it from other team fanbases.

Lots of
“Whoever comes out of the Pacific is going to get swept by Dallas or Colorado” posts.

Or complaining about how unfair it was that the Vegas was the team who did the swap to the central (as if they weren’t responsible themselves for losing their last game).

When Connor & Leon aren't on the ice, yes.
“When the other teams two best players aren’t on the ice we’re better”

Cool story bro?
 

eviohh26

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Oiler fans aren’t the ones who said this was the easiest path to the WCF. It was everyone else around here. You don’t like your team disrespected take it up with them.

You still see it from constantly see it from other team fanbases.

Lots of
“Whoever comes out of the Pacific is going to get swept by Dallas or Colorado” posts.

Or complaining about how unfair it was that the Vegas was the team who did the swap to the central (as if they weren’t responsible themselves for losing their last game).
No it was also coming from your fanbase. Then a bunch of you laughed and called this series a 4-5 game series. You guys were also the most vocal saying Nashville was the worst team in the west and beating them in 6 meant Vancouver sucked.
 
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CornKicker

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What nonsense. The Canucks are a deeper team. It has shown in all the games.
if by deep you are saying each line gets murdered by the oilers then yeah id say deep for sure

No it was also coming from your fanbase. Then a bunch of you laughed and called this series a 4-5 game series. You guys were also the most vocal saying Nashville was the worst team in the west and beating them in 6 meant Vancouver sucked.
all of that is true and if skinner wasnt letting in stinkers the canucks would be golfing today
 

eviohh26

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if by deep you are saying each line gets murdered by the oilers then yeah id say deep for sure


all of that is true and if skinner wasnt letting in stinkers the canucks would be golfing today
Yes lets blame Skinner and not your teams terrible defense . Last night was the 1st acceptable game your defense has played. One again and grand conspiracy. It's getting old.
 

Brookbank

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Do you think the Canucks have outplayed the Oilers in each game?
Not necessarily no. But when the Canucks havs out played them , it has counted for more.

if by deep you are saying each line gets murdered by the oilers then yeah id say deep for sure


all of that is true and if skinner wasnt letting in stinkers the canucks would be golfing today
Nope. That's a total cop out. The Canucks are the only team that can expose him apparently
 

CornKicker

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Not necessarily no. But when the Canucks havs out played them , it has counted for more.


Nope. That's a total cop out. The Canucks are the only team that can expose him apparently
nope the kings exposed him too and we still beat them, i will admit vancouver is better than the kings
 

bucks_oil

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What nonsense. The Canucks are a deeper team. It has shown in all the games.

Unlike you, I'm certainly not arrogant enough to say the Oilers are "the better team", or even that we're going to win. Still not fully confident in our goaltending.

But how have the Canucks shown they are "a deeper team" in every game? We've outshot you by 40 shots in only 4 games. That's 10 shots per game for the math challenged. Canucks have simply been the beneficiaries of two goaltender collapses in the games they've won.

In game three we outshot you by 27!!! and still lost because Skinner allowed FOUR on FIFTEEN shots. Pickard played the entire third period and you wouldn't even know it because he had only 3 shots on goal.

That 27 shot delta is more shots on goal than you've even had in any game (after four games the most shots you've had is 24).

Deeper team... deeper being hemmed in your zone maybe.
 

MarkusNaslund19

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Man there's a lot of ignorance on display in this thread but I guess those are the sorts who tend to yell the loudest.

2 things that are important to remember.

1. When people say we are missing Demko we're not implying that Silovs has been bad or that we're dominating.

A team literally plays differently depending on their trust in their goalie. We have a serious advantage in net over about 28 other teams when Demko plays, and that allows us to push the pace more and care less about purely protecting the house because we trust that he can make superlative saves and we can press that advantage.

With Silovs, we are doing absolutely everything we can do suppress high danger chances, and this is far above and beyond our efforts to create chances ourselves.

This is even more exaggerated in this series where were are playing two players who score at a generational pace in the playoffs.
I love Silovs and he has a lot to be proud of, but if we started trading chances with the Oilers a bit more, he would likely get ventilated by McDavid and Draisaitl. Whereas if Demko was playing, we could dictate the pace a little bit more and play 'our game' instead of playing a reactive, preventative game with our 3rd stringer even though he is playing amazingly.

2. Playoff experience matters.

Important to remember that Edmonton is at the apex of their contention window right now. Draisaitl has one more year left after this one and McDavid has 2.
If they return, they will be taking up a higher percentage of the pie as they are on two of the best contracts in the league.

Oilers have been through their disappointments. They've been a threat for like 5 or 6 years and have had to learn some lessons the hard way about what is required in the playoffs.

We're still learning these lessons. Pettersson is in his head right now and feels like he doesn't know how to come out of it. He has never played in the playoffs with the heightened intensity of the crowds and day-to-day life (he thrived in the 2020 bubble but that lacked a lot of the psychological factors that come with the playoffs).

In the years that come, he will learn how to adapt and find himself in these heightened times, how to produce against the scrutiny and game-planning that other teams do, etc.

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It's already been an incredibly successful year for the Canucks and we are at the beginning of our window.

Does that mean that I won't be heartbroken if we lose? Of course I will. I hate the Oilers and want to crush them.

But at the end of the day, the Oilers are supposed to win this series.

McDavid is literally playing for his legacy. Look at the top 4 players of all time Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, and Howe. All of them won cups on their first team (two never left).

McDavid will be the 5th best player ever by the time his career is over (you can argue he will eclipse some of the aforementioned players but the point is that he will be top 5). And his chances of joining their rite of passage of taking your first team to the cup are evaporating.

So we have a generational player, playing with desperation, and he (and they) have been blooded by several playoff runs before.

It's not a shame to admit that Edmonton has had the run of play a fair amount of the time.

But given the circumstances I'm incredibly proud of the Canucks and still believe they can win.

We do have better depth, our D is better, and our coaching runs circles around the tax accountant the Oilers have back there because he knows McDavid.

So enjoy this series because this is what being a sports fan is all about. But we don't have to pretend it's a moral test where the fans of the losing team are failures and the fans of the winning team are somehow more successful.

Enjoy it with a little humility.

And Go Canucks Go!
 

I am toxic

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I mean...
Ray Bourque with Boston..
Ovechkin with Washington doesn't have multiple cups..
The Sedins in Vancouver...
Marcel Dionne..
Pat LaFontaine..
Eric Lindros..
Jenn

Uhhhh

Rationale



Not

Fran

Shies

I would spell it out, but text will have to suffice
 

Sergei Shirokov

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Outside of the 3rd period of game 1 and 10 mins of game 4. Oilers as a team dominated the series

When Connor & Leon are on the ice, yes. When they aren't, no.

Canucks were the better team in game 1. Game 2 was pushes back & forth.

Of course when Connor & Leon are on the ice they are going to have more possesion, but depth has been a clear advantage for Vancouver.
 

La Bamba

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Man there's a lot of ignorance on display in this thread but I guess those are the sorts who tend to yell the loudest.

2 things that are important to remember.

1. When people say we are missing Demko we're not implying that Silovs has been bad or that we're dominating.

A team literally plays differently depending on their trust in their goalie. We have a serious advantage in net over about 28 other teams when Demko plays, and that allows us to push the pace more and care less about purely protecting the house because we trust that he can make superlative saves and we can press that advantage.

With Silovs, we are doing absolutely everything we can do suppress high danger chances, and this is far above and beyond our efforts to create chances ourselves.

This is even more exaggerated in this series where were are playing two players who score at a generational pace in the playoffs.
I love Silovs and he has a lot to be proud of, but if we started trading chances with the Oilers a bit more, he would likely get ventilated by McDavid and Draisaitl. Whereas if Demko was playing, we could dictate the pace a little bit more and play 'our game' instead of playing a reactive, preventative game with our 3rd stringer even though he is playing amazingly.

2. Playoff experience matters.

Important to remember that Edmonton is at the apex of their contention window right now. Draisaitl has one more year left after this one and McDavid has 2.
If they return, they will be taking up a higher percentage of the pie as they are on two of the best contracts in the league.

Oilers have been through their disappointments. They've been a threat for like 5 or 6 years and have had to learn some lessons the hard way about what is required in the playoffs.

We're still learning these lessons. Pettersson is in his head right now and feels like he doesn't know how to come out of it. He has never played in the playoffs with the heightened intensity of the crowds and day-to-day life (he thrived in the 2020 bubble but that lacked a lot of the psychological factors that come with the playoffs).

In the years that come, he will learn how to adapt and find himself in these heightened times, how to produce against the scrutiny and game-planning that other teams do, etc.

-

It's already been an incredibly successful year for the Canucks and we are at the beginning of our window.

Does that mean that I won't be heartbroken if we lose? Of course I will. I hate the Oilers and want to crush them.

But at the end of the day, the Oilers are supposed to win this series.

McDavid is literally playing for his legacy. Look at the top 4 players of all time Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, and Howe. All of them won cups on their first team (two never left).

McDavid will be the 5th best player ever by the time his career is over (you can argue he will eclipse some of the aforementioned players but the point is that he will be top 5). And his chances of joining their rite of passage of taking your first team to the cup are evaporating.

So we have a generational player, playing with desperation, and he (and they) have been blooded by several playoff runs before.

It's not a shame to admit that Edmonton has had the run of play a fair amount of the time.

But given the circumstances I'm incredibly proud of the Canucks and still believe they can win.

We do have better depth, our D is better, and our coaching runs circles around the tax accountant the Oilers have back there because he knows McDavid.

So enjoy this series because this is what being a sports fan is all about. But we don't have to pretend it's a moral test where the fans of the losing team are failures and the fans of the winning team are somehow more successful.

Enjoy it with a little humility.

And Go Canucks Go!
Nice try putting pressure on Edmonton lol. The Canucks were the #1 seed and whooped the Oilers all year. They should be the favourites

Regardless, it has a good series with incredible moments and heartbreaks for both sides

The Canucks may have done the Oilers a favour by whooping Skinner’s ass. He and Woodcroft were our biggest limitations last playoffs. Pickard is a man on a mission for redemption right now
 
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