Speculation: Kaliyev trade...

[King'sPawn]

The Pacioretty near-deal is a bad look, for sure, but there are plenty of things that have been actualized we can criticize/discuss.

 

[BigKing]

The Pacioretty near-deal is a bad look, for sure, but there are plenty of things that have been actualized we can criticize/discuss.

For sure.

Less pushback on criticizing this near-deal now than in the past since most are on board with thinking Blake sucks. Point was that DL was crucified for moving futures and Blake tried to move his second chance at making a first round pick. If you like the coup narrative, Blake trading a 1st for Patches one season removed from DL getting canned is some real catnip.

Maybe it actually would have been better if he was able to make the deal. Kings still would have sucked. Wound up getting nothing for Muzzin in the end (wasn't it Muzzin + 1st for Patches?) and he wasted that pick on Kupari who then became part of the nightmare PLD package.

The opposite of the "failed" Kovy signing and Brad Richards acquisition for DL.

 

[lumbergh]

I'm curious. Where are you guys at with Turcotte?

Not a complete bust. Probably will have an okay career as a 3rd/4th line center. Almost certain to get a contract offer.

He has to make the team in October. Can he beat Lizotte for the 4C spot? I hope so.

 

[bland]

For sure.

Less pushback on criticizing this near-deal now than in the past since most are on board with thinking Blake sucks. Point was that DL was crucified for moving futures and Blake tried to move his second chance at making a first round pick. If you like the coup narrative, Blake trading a 1st for Patches one season removed from DL getting canned is some real catnip.

Maybe it actually would have been better if he was able to make the deal. Kings still would have sucked. Wound up getting nothing for Muzzin in the end (wasn't it Muzzin + 1st for Patches?) and he wasted that pick on Kupari who then became part of the nightmare PLD package.

The opposite of the "failed" Kovy signing and Brad Richards acquisition for DL.

Just to address a couple of points here from different posts, but the rumored plan was that Brisson was negotiating deals for BOTH Kovalchuk and Pacioretty to fit in under the cap and that the Montreal deal fizzled because Pacioretty balked at being given a very, very short window to decide on a 3 year, $6.5mil extension. He didn't like it and fired Brisson shortly after - presumedly for the way that was handled.

The rumored trade wasn't for the first that year, it was for the 2nd rounder used on Thomas, JAD and Muzzin to create the cap room for both wingers.

 

[BigKing]

Just to address a couple of points here from different posts, but the rumored plan was that Brisson was negotiating deals for BOTH Kovalchuk and Pacioretty to fit in under the cap and that the Montreal deal fizzled because Pacioretty balked at being given a very, very short window to decide on a 3 year, $6.5mil extension. He didn't like it and fired Brisson shortly after - presumedly for the way that was handled.

The rumored trade wasn't for the first that year, it was for the 2nd rounder used on Thomas, JAD and Muzzin to create the cap room for both wingers.

Sounds like rebuilding.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Not a complete bust. Probably will have an okay career as a 3rd/4th line center. Almost certain to get a contract offer.

He has to make the team in October. Can he beat Lizotte for the 4C spot? I hope so.

Lizotte should not be back. We need to move forward. We need to move his rights along with a few other rfas.