Player Discussion Ilya Mikheyev

[4th line culture]

It's amazing to see how far he made it with two prosthetic hands

 

[Flik]

I'm proud of him.

It takes a special kind of ineptitude to be so consistent at killing plays.

That takes effort, and he was so reliable.

 

[VanJack]

A disastrous season for Mikheyev....fortunately the contract has only one more year to run.....but paying $4.7m for a guy who scored one goal in 60 games is borderline disastrous.

And the chances of dealing that contract are just about 'nil'.....so I guess the Canucks will have to make the best of it......all you can hope or is a bounce-back season.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Buy out. Anchor of a player, completely sinks any line he plays on.

 

[F A N]

the one thing i've heard about that type of injury is that it takes more than a year to actually recover from. I am interested to see where his speed is at come fall. Whether or not it is with the canucks, we will see.

would stink to add another couple million over the next few years to ekman larrson on the dead money pile. The savings this year is fairly significant again though.

There was no bursts of speed from him. There were times where a prime Mik might have had a scoring or even breakaway opportunity but he just didn’t have that extra gear to get there.

Like Lafferty, for someone whose size and speed were suppose to be factors in the playoffs they were complete non factors. It’s unfortunate that Mik got injured. Maybe the soon to be 30 year old regains his former speed or he has forever lost a step. I would bet on the latter but it is a bit of a toss up.

With that said, I fully expect Mik to bounce back. He was shut down too late and didn’t have a summer to train. As long as he’s not mailing it in he should be motivated to produce like a top 6 forward since that’s something he has never fully accomplished.

 

[Cancuks]

Pretty sure he'll be bought out. That's an extra $3 million to re-sign a player.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Pretty sure he'll be bought out. That's an extra $3 million to re-sign a player.

Adding to the OEL dead cap is not wise.

I would rather just roll the dice next season and then bury him in the AHL if he still sucks.

 

[Brookbank]

We are back here. Just like we were with Myers , Boeser, Garlund and even Miller at one point. How much assets should we include to dump Mikyev.

But this time we have more serious cap priorities. I think a team like the Hawks or SJ would pay a 5th or 7th for him.

 

[strattonius]

We are back here. Just like we were with Myers , Boeser, Garlund and even Miller at one point. How much assets should we include to dump Mikyev.

But this time we have more serious cap priorities. I think a team like the Hawks or SJ would pay a 5th or 7th for him.

You mean we would pay the Hawks or Sharks a pick to take his contract?

4.75M for 2 more years. Neither of those teams are loading up and paying draft capital for a guy that has 1 goal in 50 games or whatever it is. The rhetoric behind 'maybe he turns it around' isn't a pitch. Mikheyev is a negative value asset right now.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Just offer up our 2nd in 2025. Do the 1st if he absolutely have to. Buying him out, thus locking us into two years of 7 and 6 million in dead cap would be brutal.

 

[Javaman]

A disastrous season for Mikheyev....fortunately the contract has only one more year to run.....but paying $4.7m for a guy who scored one goal in 60 games is borderline disastrous.

And the chances of dealing that contract are just about 'nil'.....so I guess the Canucks will have to make the best of it......all you can hope or is a bounce-back season.

Two more years.

The current management group has made a lot of savvy moves to turn the Canucks into a good team, but the Mikheyev signing is one of their few blunders. From what I've witnessed, he's had close to zero impact on the positive outcomes for the team since he signed. Unfortunately, this is going to be a difficult mistake to undo.

When the signing was first announced, I was immediately skeptical. I felt that either the term or the AAV was too much. Turns out that both were too much. The lesson is not to overpay for bottom 6 wingers who are "on pace" to have an excellent year, especially if they are older than 25.

The current regime has earned a lot of trust in their short stint. But it's annoying to see them overlook so many red flags about Mikheyev.

 

[Cancuks]

When they signed Mikheyev it was because they wanted speed and to improve the penalty killing and Boudreau was still coach. I think they also thought he could help convice Kuzmenko to sign here. Now that the coach has changed and Kuzmenko is gone I don't think they really care too much if they need to buy him out. Yeah it's more dead cap but this team's window is the next two seasons so they can't sit around waiting for Mikheyev to find his form which he likely won't under Tocchet.

 

[LordBacon]

David Booth 2.0

 

[mriswith]

I think there are teams that would take him if we paid them a 2nd to do so and that's better than a buyout. If we buy him out we have almost 7 mil dead cap in the 25-26 season.

 

[kanucks25]

My feeling is he'll be back and they'll hope he can magically rebound.

I think it'd take more than a 2nd for a team to take him on.

Unless they have a really good use of the free cap that they simply can't refuse, I can't see them buying him out.

 

[StreetHawk]

My feeling is he'll be back and they'll hope he can magically rebound.

I think it'd take more than a 2nd for a team to take him on.

Unless they have a really good use of the free cap that they simply can't refuse, I can't see them buying him out.

It would have to be a buyout vs a deal out. At this stage the Canucks really lack help internally from their limited prospect pool.

 

[Slapshot_11]

See if chi wants this bum

 

[F A N]

When they signed Mikheyev it was because they wanted speed and to improve the penalty killing and Boudreau was still coach. I think they also thought he could help convice Kuzmenko to sign here. Now that the coach has changed and Kuzmenko is gone I don't think they really care too much if they need to buy him out. Yeah it's more dead cap but this team's window is the next two seasons so they can't sit around waiting for Mikheyev to find his form which he likely won't under Tocchet.

Management wanted Boudreau gone so no way they signed Mik for Boudreau. I think they did think Mik could be a top 6 player while giving you size, speed, and defensive acumen. That’s why I find Alvin’s admission troubling. You don’t give a middle 6 player with Mik’s pedigree that contract.

 

[God]

Management wanted Boudreau gone so no way they signed Mik for Boudreau. I think they did think Mik could be a top 6 player while giving you size, speed, and defensive acumen. That’s why I find Alvin’s admission troubling. You don’t give a middle 6 player with Mik’s pedigree that contract.

My interpretation of the comment was him taking a bit of heat off of Mikheyev because of a tough year coming back from the ACL rehab. I doubt he's here next year given how ruthless they need to be to continue being a contender.