Are we in Canada paranoid about 2026 or should we not be worried?

NyQuil

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Canada has relied on Quebec for decades to keep us up for goaltending.

Since 1950 when Billy Smith was born, Anglo-Canada has produced only four HHOF goaltenders.

Grant Fuhr (1962)
Mike Vernon (1963)
Ed Belfour (1965)
Carey Price (1987)

The last HHOF goalie produced in Ontario was born 74 years ago. The best since then is what, Curtis Joseph and Mike Smith?

Since that time, Quebec produced Patrick Roy, Martin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Marc Andre-Fleury, and Jose Theodore.

When Quebec fell off, it illuminated how weak Anglo-Canada has been for 50% of hockey's history.

Keep in mind that those 5 Anglo-Canadian HHoF goalies born since 1950 make up the highest proportion of the total number of goalies in the HHoF born since 1950.

Quebec has actually only produced 3.

The remaining 3 include 1 Czech, 1 American and 1 Swede.

There just aren't that many goalies in the HHoF.
 
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Nucks2001

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2026 and crosby really? Guys gunna be like 50. I'd prefer they take someone else
Honestly at the rate these young bucks are developing, Crosby might be 1 of 2 forwards over the age of 31 at 2026 and that’s just fine by me considering Crosby is Crosby. Aging like fine wine.
 

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Next season is huge for how Canada will look like for the 2026 Olympics. I want to see those jumps from the 50-70 point range to the 90+ point range from players like Bedard, Laf, Johnston, Suzuki, Jarvis, Byfield and Kyrou.

Will love to see Fantilli keep developing and it’s Celebrini’s rookie season

2025 will determine how the future of Canada will ultimately look like
 
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Why does Thomas Harley (plays for Canada internationally) never get any notice / love?

22 years old, 6'4", his stats in 2023-2024 were terrific. He had as many points as McAvoy (who everyone is in awe of) but, unlike McAvoy who was a +4, Harley was a +28.

Help me understand because I'd rather have him out there than Rielly.

So what is his deal? I had to look up when he played for Canada, but he did with the 2021 WJC team. He's born in Syracuse, NY, but plays for Canada? Why is that? Was he raised in Canada?
 

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Next season is huge for how Canada will look like for the 2026 Olympics. I want to see those jumps from the 50-70 point range to the 90+ point range from players like Bedard, Laf, Johnston, Suzuki, Jarvis, Byfield and Kyrou.

Will love to see Fantilli keep developing and it’s Celebrini’s rookie season

2025 will determine how the future of Canada will ultimately look like
I think Laf had the 2nd most even strength points on the Rangers this year. Obviously behind Panarin. But he's poised to hit that next gear. Probably happens next year. 90-100 points is what I would expect with normal power play time. He's earned it.

He wants to win.

There has to be a reason why. He has to have citizenship to Canada or something.
 
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So what is his deal? I had to look up when he played for Canada, but he did with the 2021 WJC team. He's born in Syracuse, NY, but plays for Canada? Why is that? Was he raised in Canada?
Be happy he plays for us because he looks terrific...


" When speaking of the decision, Harley stated that while his family lived in New York, he was raised as a Canadian."
 

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He wants to win.
Harley's a big talented kid (he's 22) who just had a breakout year. He's playing a lot of minutes against Colorado in Round 2.

Not sure who's is charge of drafting in Dallas, but he's done one hell of a job - the team is loaded with high end prospects.
 
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So what is his deal? I had to look up when he played for Canada, but he did with the 2021 WJC team. He's born in Syracuse, NY, but plays for Canada? Why is that? Was he raised in Canada?
You're talking about Harley? He's born and raised in the United States but his parents are Canadian. My memory from those WJC is that he talked about growing up in a very "pro-Canada" household and only considered playing for Canada. For all intents and purposes he is an American product but as a dual citizen he became eligible for Canada because he chose the OHL route.
 

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You're talking about Harley? He's born and raised in the United States but his parents are Canadian. My memory from those WJC is that he talked about growing up in a very "pro-Canada" household and only considered playing for Canada. For all intents and purposes he is an American product but as a dual citizen he became eligible for Canada because he chose the OHL route.

Ah okay. So Tyler Myers without actually being raised partially in Canada then?

I never liked what Deadmarsh did to Canada either playing for the U.S. I guess in his case he never makes Canada either, but that sort of stuff always bugs me. Trottier played for USA in 1984 for some reason too. Born and raised in Canada.
 

NyQuil

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Ah okay. So Tyler Myers without actually being raised partially in Canada then?

I never liked what Deadmarsh did to Canada either playing for the U.S. I guess in his case he never makes Canada either, but that sort of stuff always bugs me. Trottier played for USA in 1984 for some reason too. Born and raised in Canada.

We've had transplants in other sports so it doesn't really bother me as much as it used to.
 
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Ah okay. So Tyler Myers without actually being raised partially in Canada then?

I never liked what Deadmarsh did to Canada either playing for the U.S. I guess in his case he never makes Canada either, but that sort of stuff always bugs me. Trottier played for USA in 1984 for some reason too. Born and raised in Canada.
Yes. Canada's done well when it comes to the born in one country, play for another, U.S.-Canada, thing.
 

JackSlater

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Ah okay. So Tyler Myers without actually being raised partially in Canada then?

I never liked what Deadmarsh did to Canada either playing for the U.S. I guess in his case he never makes Canada either, but that sort of stuff always bugs me. Trottier played for USA in 1984 for some reason too. Born and raised in Canada.
More than Myers really. As far as I know Harley exclusively lived in the United States until he was 16 (Myers moved at 12 I think) but unlike Myers both parents are Canadian, which isn't a factor I care about. There are some egregious ones over time, Harley included. Deadmarsh playing for USA was fairly ridiculous. Trottier playing for USA was only possible because the Canada Cup wasn't under IIHF rules. Jason Pominville playing for USA, which I recall he didn't know he was eligible for and had never considered until USA noticed his mother was Canadian, was bad. Canada also used Peter Stastny at the 1984 Canada Cup, but again that wasn't under IIHF rules.

These things happen. Canada can be very bad for it in other sports. I am grateful that hockey at least has stricter rules than many other sports, but the rules should be stricter.
 

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