Prospect Info: Ryan Johnson, D, 2019 #31 overall: Signed, Rochester (AHL), Assigned 3/8/24

buffalowing88 · Wednesday at 10:49 PM

Count me in the "he'll be traded" by the draft faction.

MOGlLNY · 2024-05-30T05:51:23-0400

Would love to keep Johnson but feels like the writing is on the wall for him.

Jacob582 · 2024-05-30T07:08:28-0400

Dingo44 said:
Pretty good article about RyJo from Hamilton.

https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/sabres/ryan-johnson-looks-forward-to-big-summer-improvement-for-next-season

Worth reading.

Hamilton's writing style is not smooth like RyJohnson's skating. It's choppier than Komarov's.

HOOats · 2024-05-30T10:20:16-0400

buffalowing88 said:
Count me in the "he'll be traded" by the draft faction.

MOGlLNY said:
Would love to keep Johnson but feels like the writing is on the wall for him.

What did I miss?

Can't see him holding enough value around the league to make a trade worthwhile for us. Feels like the ideal #8 to continue developing in Roch next year.

CowbellConray · 2024-05-30T10:36:47-0400

HOOats said:
What did I miss?

Can't see him holding enough value around the league to make a trade worthwhile for us. Feels like the ideal #8 to continue developing in Roch next year.

Yea, he doesn’t seem like a resource that would be dealt for the sake of dealing him.

He had a solid first year, and I could see him being a first calllup next season

joshjull · 2024-05-30T10:49:22-0400

MOGlLNY said:
Would love to keep Johnson but feels like the writing is on the wall for him.

Why would you say that?

MOGlLNY · 2024-05-30T11:13:05-0400

joshjull said:
Why would you say that?

A ton of LD’s in his age range especially with Byram. Could definitely see him as an underrated trade chip.

Nothing notable that brought that up particularly.

Chainshot · 2024-05-30T11:20:40-0400

Seems like having a nearly ready, ELC #8 would have value that wouldn't see him just dealt.

Chainshot · 2024-05-30T12:21:31-0400

buffalowing88 said:
Count me in the "he'll be traded" by the draft faction.

MOGlLNY said:
Would love to keep Johnson but feels like the writing is on the wall for him.

I take it there is chatter somewhere that people think he's going to be moved?

OkimLom · 2024-05-30T12:44:41-0400

MOGlLNY said:
Would love to keep Johnson but feels like the writing is on the wall for him.

Where is this said wall, and who is talking about him getting moved? Or are you just thinking that on your own based on what the current depth chart looks like? He seems like a decent asset that has room to grow if Buffalo gets itself in a cap strap issue.

MOGlLNY · 2024-05-30T13:09:17-0400

OkimLom said:
Where is this said wall, and who is talking about him getting moved? Or are you just thinking that on your own based on what the current depth chart looks like? He seems like a decent asset that has room to grow if Buffalo gets itself in a cap strap issue.

Nobody is saying it that I've seen. I suppose I just meant I wouldn't be surprised that if they move a prospect that Johnson is part of a positional surplus that we currently have.

I don't want to see him moved, I really like him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is.

Chainshot · 2024-05-30T13:25:00-0400

MOGlLNY said:
Nobody is saying it that I've seen. I suppose I just meant I wouldn't be surprised that if they move a prospect that Johnson is part of a positional surplus that we currently have.

I don't want to see him moved, I really like him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is.

They were two injuries from him being used sooner than we expected last year. They can still use him as an #8 but let him be the recall when an injury happens, essentially carrying a Bryson type as the 7 in case someone gets sick prior to the game day skate or whatever, the EBUD if you will but in long-term situations Ryan is the option for this coming season. That still likely puts him into 40-50 games and cheaply.

Dingo44 · 2024-05-30T13:26:21-0400

I think Ryan Johnson is low on the list of players moved unless it's for a bigger deal. I'm sure they aren't shopping him. At worst he's a great #7 who can slot anywhere in the lineup after another defenseman gets inevitably injured - and he has a LOT of room to grow. He's also cheap and cost controlled for a long while.

MOGlLNY · 2024-05-30T13:52:59-0400

Dingo44 said:
I think Ryan Johnson is low on the list of players moved unless it's for a bigger deal. I'm sure they aren't shopping him. At worst he's a great #7 who can slot anywhere in the lineup after another defenseman gets inevitably injured - and he has a LOT of room to grow. He's also cheap and cost controlled for a long while.

I might be alone but I definitely think that the bigger deal comes this summer tbh

OkimLom · 2024-05-30T14:42:27-0400

MOGlLNY said:
Nobody is saying it that I've seen. I suppose I just meant I wouldn't be surprised that if they move a prospect that Johnson is part of a positional surplus that we currently have.

I don't want to see him moved, I really like him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is.

I don't see him getting moved. I'd be shocked if he WAS moved. I'd think he would be the #7 defenseman for the organization at the very least, and as we know the team doesn't go through a season without injuries/rotations. Right now, he'd be #6 in terms of guys being under contract. I can see Adams maybe getting one other veteran for the defense. Maybe to replace Joki or play the 3rd pairing.

I think Clague is let go to free agency (not signed), and I don't see Bryson being brought back. With Ruff as coach, I don't see so many of the same type of defenseman, and I think he's the odd man out, in terms of age, and just potential for growth.

Johnson also has a pretty good gap of NHL readiness to the next defensemen in the system. I don't see anybody really pushing HIM for ice time, as of right now (current pool).

IMO, I think you're worrying over nothing.

Beerz · 2024-05-30T15:50:22-0400

I would hope he isn't moved.

I think he is very close to being a top 4 dman right now. I loved his game last year. If you have him on bottom pair it means you have a very good top 4.

Guy is just smooth and makes the right decisions

HOOats · 2024-05-30T16:07:39-0400

Beerz said:
I would hope he isn't moved.

I think he is very close to being a top 4 dman right now. I loved his game last year. If you have him on bottom pair it means you have a very good top 4.

Guy is just smooth and makes the right decisions

You think he's near top 4 quality for the playoff caliber team we aspire to be? I think that's a big stretch at the moment. We'd have one of the best D corps in the league if he's already that good.

To me he hasn't shown the consistency to even be a regular #6 yet. He wore down as the season continued and the holes in his game began showing. Definitely excited to see if he can use that experience and adapt to a full pro season next year between Roch and here.

Beerz · 2024-05-30T16:12:52-0400

HOOats said:
You think he's near top 4 quality for the playoff caliber team we aspire to be? I think that's a big stretch at the moment. We'd have one of the best D corps in the league if he's already that good.

To me he hasn't shown the consistency to even be a regular #6 yet. He wore down as the season continued and the holes in his game began showing. Definitely excited to see if he can use that experience and adapt to a full pro season next year between Roch and here.

Ya.. id take him on bottom pair for a bunch of bottom pair D that were in playoffs.

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