Series Talk: ECQF: Boston Bruins vs Toronto Maple Leafs (Series Tied 3-3)

[Spring in Fialta]

The Core 4 haven't even played one full game together this series which is a big part of the reason Boston is up 3-1.

The Leafs are down 3-1 because they have a shit goalie, poor depth and have imploded to the point that Nylander has to tell Marner to stop crying. And this is after how many years of playoffs implosion?

I'm usually a proponent of 'always bet on talent' but this Leafs team is making a massive argument that they need a major shake-up.

 

[PaulGG]

Boson is good but Toronto is cursed.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Matthews last 2 years playoffs have been pretty good. The same with Marner and Nylander.

His first round versus Tampa was good. He was utter dogshit versus Florida and his no show on the scoreboard was a major reason the Leafs lost in 5 games.

 

[Divine]

The Leafs are down 3-1 because they have a shit goalie, poor depth and have imploded to the point that Nylander has to tell Marner to stop crying. And this is after how many years of playoffs implosion?

I'm usually a proponent of 'always bet on talent' but this Leafs team is making a massive argument that they need a major shake-up.

Sure but is this series 3-1 if Nylander plays the first 3 games?

Blaming the core 4 for a series where they haven't played a full game together doesn't make any sense.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Pastrnak's been laying big hits all series, consistantly winning puck battles and has made elite plays..... sure let's only look at point totals... Pastrnak has been significantly outperforming the "core 4".

Playoff hockey is about winning the small battles consistantly, not the highlight reels. I understand this is a foreign concept to some Leaf fans, and likely the core 4 as well.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Sure but is this series 3-1 if Nylander plays the first 3 games?

Blaming the core 4 for a series where they haven't played a full game together is illogical.

It very well might be. What have the Leafs - ever - shown that would warrant the benefit of the doubt at this point?

 

[Divine]

It very well might be. What have the Leafs - ever - shown that would warrant the benefit of the doubt at this point?

The Leafs core have never lost in less than 7 in the 1st round.

The one series where the core 3 doesn't play together and they lose in 5? Pretty fair to argue it may have had an impact.

 

[POVERTY]

Hopefully this is finally enough to get Keefe fired. But who knows, since blowing a 3-1 lead in the playoffs to a team coached by Dominic Ducharme wasn't enough, and getting stomped 4-1 the following playoffs only earned him an extension.

Perhaps I'm harsh and a 5-13 home record in the playoffs is actually good.

 

[danpantz]

No, I brought him up by saying Marner and Pastrnak have the same playoff stats so the video bashing both Marner and his dad was a ridiculous take.

Then people started bragging about Pastrnak's 2 empty net assists.

Ya you tried to say a guy with 2 points has the same stats as a guy with 4 points because you think it’s unfair that one of them is trusted by their coach to be able to defend a 6 on 5 and put the other team away.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

The Leafs core have never lost in less than 7 in the 1st round.

Oh wow, don't care.

 

[Over the volcano]

The Leafs core have never lost in less than 7 in the 1st round.

... yet.

 

[Divine]

Oh wow, don't care.

So why ask?

Just a coincidence their worst performance is when they faced injuries to their core players?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

So why ask?

Just a coincidence their worst performance is when they faced injuries to their core players?

That the Leafs have never lost in less than 7 in the 1st round is a meaningless stat.

Especially when one of them was blowing a 3-1 lead where they were heavy favorites.

 

[Divine]

... yet.

Well yeah, because they had to play the first 4 games missing one of the main 3 players.

 

[Golden_Jet]

What's with the scheduling of this series? For the second time in a row there are two days off between games.

Ya it’s odd, playing one game between a Wednesday and the following Tuesday.

 

[Divine]

That the Leafs have never lost in less than 7 in the 1st round is a meaningless stat.

It answers your question as to whether Nylander made a difference.

The worst outing is the outing where a core player was missed.

 

[danpantz]

That the Leafs have never lost in less than 7 in the 1st round is a meaningless stat.

Especially when one of them was blowing a 3-1 lead where they were heavy favorites.

They also lost in 5 to Columbus but that wasn’t even in the first round.

 

[Score8]

The last 3 years proves my point.

Pastrnak is not some elite playoff stud if you're saying the Leafs core 3 doesn't show up in the playoffs while they both have identical stats in the last 3 years.

You realize your entire argument is 3 of your highest paid players barely out perform 1 player on the bruins? This is why the leafs won’t win anything until their entire mind set has been changed.

 

[danpantz]

Well yeah, because they had to play the first 4 games missing one of the main 3 players.

Pretty sure all of them played in game 4

 

[Divine]

That the Leafs have never lost in less than 7 in the 1st round is a meaningless stat.

Especially when one of them was blowing a 3-1 lead where they were heavy favorites.

Ironically that series also had one of the core injured.

Pretty sure all of them played in game 4

Matthews was pulled from the game before the third. So they all played together for 2 periods in 4 games.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

It answers your question as to whether Nylander made a difference.

The worst outing is the outing where a core player was missed.

No it doesn't, at all. What occurred in one playoff season doesn't automatically apply to another.

You don't understand how a statistic works. Kind of embarrassing.

 

[NDiesel]

Sure but is this series 3-1 if Nylander plays the first 3 games?

Blaming the core 4 for a series where they haven't played a full game together is illogical.

Yes it is sooooo illogical to blame your 4 best players for your team's offensive woes...

 

[Divine]

No it doesn't, at all. What occurred in one playoff season doesn't automatically apply to another.

You don't understand how a statistic works. Kind of embarrassing.

So why ask the question if one playoff doesn't apply to another. You've contradicted the entire point of your argument.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

The Leafs core have never lost in less than 7 in the 1st round.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Ironically that series also had one of the core injured.

And they were able to go up - gasp! - 3 to 1 without him before blowing it.