Speculation: 2024 Off-season Discussion

[tucknroll]

Love Crouse, hate the idea of giving him up. Think he has more to offer than what he's done and it is in no way a bad thing for this team to keep him.
That being said his value should be at its peak this year or maybe next and if you can make him the main piece in a trade for a player along the lines of Owen Powers, then I think it's a no brainer. Crouse turns 27 next month, this team is likely still 3 years from competing. In my opinion skilled power forwards are very hard to determine when they will start declining, I personally find its usually closer to 30 than it is further.

 

[rt]

Jeannot would go along way towards that. I am sure Utah could get him back up to 15mins

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I would be happy to add Jeannot if the price is right. I don’t need these additions to necessarily be gifted face punchers like Jeannot. I’ll take violence if it’s available but I’m mostly thinking about grit. A guy like Mario Ferraro plays with almost no violence but with a ton of grit. That’s ok too. This is a “yes, and…” rather than a “no, but…” thing.

 

[DustyDangler]

I would be happy to add Jeannot if the price is right. I don’t need these additions to necessarily be gifted face punchers like Jeannot. I’ll take violence if it’s available but I’m mostly thinking about grit. A guy like Mario Ferraro plays with almost no violence but with a ton of grit. That’s ok too. This is a “yes, and…” rather than a “no, but…” thing.

I like the Ferraro idea as it filles a needed D spot. How about Dakota Joshua? He's gritty and a UFA.

 

[rt]

I like the Ferraro idea as it filles a needed D spot. How about Dakota Joshua? He's gritty and a UFA.

Yeah, Joshua would be great. I think Vancouver wants to keep him. If they do then Lafferty is likely signable for us and that would work. Or Trenin or even Cole Smith.

 

[Schemp]

I like to get at least one D that can look the GM squarely in the eyes!

 

[rt]

I like to get at least one D that can look the GM squarely in the eyes!

Targeting Lindgren, Middleton, Borgen, Whitecloud, or others of that mould would be good.

 

[LittlePipes]

Love Crouse, hate the idea of giving him up. Think he has more to offer than what he's done and it is in no way a bad thing for this team to keep him.
That being said his value should be at its peak this year or maybe next and if you can make him the main piece in a trade for a player along the lines of Owen Powers, then I think it's a no brainer. Crouse turns 27 next month, this team is likely still 3 years from competing. In my opinion skilled power forwards are very hard to determine when they will start declining, I personally find its usually closer to 30 than it is further.

Always better to trade a player a year early as opposed to a year late.

Get me Sam Bennet from the Panthers and Gudas from the Ducks, and I'm buying 41 round trip flights , Phoenix/SLC.
I can dream, right?

 

[Mangosteen]

Would you guys trade for Kaapo Kakko? Bear might be able to help him develop.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Love Crouse, hate the idea of giving him up. Think he has more to offer than what he's done and it is in no way a bad thing for this team to keep him.
That being said his value should be at its peak this year or maybe next and if you can make him the main piece in a trade for a player along the lines of Owen Powers, then I think it's a no brainer. Crouse turns 27 next month, this team is likely still 3 years from competing. In my opinion skilled power forwards are very hard to determine when they will start declining, I personally find its usually closer to 30 than it is further.

Very much in the give to get reality.

Hate losing Crouse but his greatest value would be a chip in a deal to acquire a top pair Dman.

 

[DustyDangler]

Very much in the give to get reality.

Hate losing Crouse but his greatest value would be a chip in a deal to acquire a top pair Dman.

IMHO...His greatest value is to hold onto him. I have confidence he is about to turn into a 30 goal scorer and will be so for 5ish years. He has demonstrated he can dominate in short spurts, now he just needs the hardest thing...consistency. New environment, new energy, improved roster, he is going to excel and he is a built for playoffs kind of player. Oh and he is on a fair contract through 26-27. This is the kind of player you go looking for, not the kind you try to get rid of.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

IMHO...His greatest value is to hold onto him. I have confidence he is about to turn into a 30 goal scorer and will be so for 5ish years. He has demonstrated he can dominate in short spurts, now he just needs the hardest thing...consistency. New environment, new energy, improved roster, he is going to excel and he is a built for playoffs kind of player. Oh and he is on a fair contract through 26-27. This is the kind of player you go looking for, not the kind you try to get rid of.

He's publicly admitted he needs and wants to improve his skill with the puck. Reminds me of what Sherwood Bassin used to tell us in camp "it's puck handling, my 80 yr. old grandmother can handle a stick!" Lord, did I ever love that colorful man.

 

[DustyDangler]

He's publicly admitted he needs and wants to improve his skill with the puck. Reminds me of what Sherwood Bassin used to tell us in camp "it's puck handling, my 80 yr. old grandmother can handle a stick!" Lord, did I ever love that colorful man.

I dunno...the actual object they feel or manipulate with the hands (handle) is a stick. It is actually illegal to handle the puck for but a second.

 

[Grimes]

Would you guys trade for Kaapo Kakko? Bear might be able to help him develop.

Kind of like Necas, only if we are moving Schmaltz or Crouse for other pieces.

 

[che]

Crouse needs to stay, we need more of his type. He would excel in a playoff run.

 

[rt]

Would Vegas accept 3x 2nds in 2025 for Roy & Whitecloud?

Saves them 6mil in cap (which might help them keep a marquee piece) and gives them a bunch of deadline ammo for next season (once they have some guys on LTIR).

We get a pair of 27 year old depth players with a lot of size and experience. These aren’t Top6/Top4 types on Vegas when they’re healthy but would be key pieces for Utah.

I assume Vegas would rather try to sign one or two of Stephenson, Marchessault or Martinez. Or even Mantha.

 

[DustyDangler]

Nothing earth shattering but LeBrun article if interested...

LeBrun: What's next for NHL Utah, armed with over $40 million in cap space? Catching up with Bill Armstrong

Armstrong says his plan for the offseason, with stable ownership and the NHL's most cap space, is "to be relentless on improving our team."

www.nytimes.com

 

[Heldig]

Nothing earth shattering but LeBrun article if interested...

LeBrun: What's next for NHL Utah, armed with over $40 million in cap space? Catching up with Bill Armstrong

Armstrong says his plan for the offseason, with stable ownership and the NHL's most cap space, is "to be relentless on improving our team."

www.nytimes.com

GM Armstrong better be relentless in getting some D on the roster.

 

[DustyDangler]

No idea who the gentleman is but here's me confident he will be 2x+ better than the previous guy.

 

[Jamieh]

No idea who the gentleman is but here's me confident he will be 2x+ better than the previous guy.

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Seems like a very similar person???

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795562795620073829

 

[Heldig]

Would you guys trade for Kaapo Kakko? Bear might be able to help him develop.

Meh. UTAH does not really need middle 6 wingers.

 

[RABBIT]

I think Nic Hague is a very real possibility. Vegas in deep down the left side and Hague is a player that fits GMBA’s mold.

 

[DustyDangler]

Graham Sward rights have been relinquished by Colorado. Is he worth taking a run at by Utah?

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CHL notebook: Predators prospect Sward building comfort level, confidence | NHL.com

Contributing poise, production for Wenatchee as top-scoring defenseman in WHL

www.nhl.com

 

[lanky]

Graham Sward rights have been relinquished by Colorado. Is he worth taking a run at by Utah?

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CHL notebook: Predators prospect Sward building comfort level, confidence | NHL.com

Contributing poise, production for Wenatchee as top-scoring defenseman in WHL

www.nhl.com

I was a fan of his in the Wpg Ice days.
I'd be interested unless it takes an opportunity away from Duda.