Speculation: Holland & Columbus. Columbus & Holland. In it together. How? Why?

Who do you want to replace Holland as GM?

  • Mark Hunter

    Votes: 17 18.7%
  • Brad Holland

    Votes: 6 6.6%
  • Keith Gretzky

    Votes: 12 13.2%
  • A potato

    Votes: 32 35.2%
  • *insert ex-Oiler player here*

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • Other (you name him)

    Votes: 25 27.5%

  • Total voters
    91

Sheikyerbouti

ShakeyerMcBooty
Nov 4, 2006
1,419
1,225
Van isle
He won't be back plain and simple. He hasn't done a good job.

His job was to take this team off the trash heap and win a cup in 5 years. He's almost there. If that is not a good job your standards are way too high. Holland is definitely not in the same class as Zito or Tulsky, but he's done his job


Some key draft picks have stepped up in big roles in this run, and players he's brought in are in important leadership positions. You got to take the bias out of it, ignore the poor decisions, and look at the whole, which is mission almost accomplished at this point.

Knoblauch's hiring was Holland too. Didn't know that until yesterday, but Holland had a former employee in the rangers telling Holland what a sixth sense Knob had with a lineup. Got to take the bad with the good, and Hyman, Ekholm, and Knoblauch are big reasons we turned it around.
 

Oilslick941611

Registered User
Jul 4, 2006
15,100
14,947
Ottawa
Oddly enough, Brendan Perlini mentioned McDavid in a "Players I Played With" video and pointed out that he's actually a lot more witty and fun behind the scenes than what he displays to the media.

McDavid story begins at 20:12. The comments about his lighter side are at around 21:30. Whole video is a great watch though.


of course. The poor kid was raked over the coals for a still shot of face at a draft. Of course hes not gonna give media, fans anything other than a stone face.

I don't doubt for a second that McDavid isn't a stilted no fun guy behind the scenes.
 
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Pavel10

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Nov 10, 2023
857
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recency bias?

It's the semifinals man lol
Yes and he scored a goal yesterday. Let's pump the brakes. His drafting is abysmal. One game doesn't change that.

His job was to take this team off the trash heap and win a cup in 5 years. He's almost there. If that is not a good job your standards are way too high. Holland is definitely not in the same class as Zito or Tulsky, but he's done his job


Some key draft picks have stepped up in big roles in this run, and players he's brought in are in important leadership positions. You got to take the bias out of it, ignore the poor decisions, and look at the whole, which is mission almost accomplished at this point.

Knoblauch's hiring was Holland too. Didn't know that until yesterday, but Holland had a former employee in the rangers telling Holland what a sixth sense Knob had with a lineup. Got to take the bad with the good, and Hyman, Ekholm, and Knoblauch are big reasons we turned it around.
Yet no one wants him including Columbus. He's gone end of the year. He had the core in his lap.

He's been awful at cap management and, yes drafting. You have to ask could Zito or tulsky done better with the tailwind of McDavid, drai, Bouchard nuge he was handed.
 

MoontoScott

Registered User
Jun 2, 2012
8,249
9,639
Yes and he scored a goal yesterday. Let's pump the brakes. His drafting is abysmal. One game doesn't change that.


Yet no one wants him including Columbus. He's gone end of the year. He had the core in his lap.

He's been awful at cap management and, yes drafting. You have to ask could Zito or tulsky done better with the tailwind of McDavid, drai, Bouchard nuge he was handed.
He's done some good things too but no doubt that "cap management" would be a failing grade.

2025-26 will be a very tight squeeze after they (hopefully) sign Bouchard and Drai.
 
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Lay Z Boy GM

Registered User
Sep 8, 2010
5,765
5,645
Vancouver
Ideally we win the Cup and Holland just retires

He kind of reinforces his legacy and can sail off in the sunset.

Then we can hire a more modern GM that sorts out the bad cap hits
 

guymez

The Seldom Seen Kid
Mar 3, 2004
33,631
13,584
He's done some good things too but no doubt that "cap management" would be a failing grade.

2025-26 will be a very tight squeeze after they (hopefully) sign Bouchard and Drai.
I agree but if he manages to win a cup then all will be forgiven. :nod:

That said the biggest catalyst for this team turning the season around is firing Woody and bringing in Knoblauch. I really do wonder who was the driving force behind that move...Jackson or Holland?
 

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