EP40 Charging Penalty

[matsqq]

It's like when people write to the insurance company :
the lamp post came from the left with very high speed and hit my car.

 

[Thallis]

There's a lot of rules lawyering going for something that is a clear as day infraction. You cannot jump prior to contact, it's dangerous for everyone involved. It's also not common, the common play is when feet leave the ice as a result of the collision. That's not happening here, easy penalty.

 

[Pestilence]

Absolutely should not be a penalty.

One of the worst calls this entire playoffs at the very least.

"One of the worst calls" when the penalty/no penalty is roughly 50/50 and the rules isn't clear on this.

 

[Ace of Hades]

"One of the worst calls" when the penalty/no penalty is roughly 50/50 and the rules isn't clear on this.

In the playoffs, it is.

You were better off sitting this one out.

 

[biturbo19]

2 Minutes for getting hit and not falling over.



In the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Peter Forsberg would be illegal today.

 

[Bizzare]

"One of the worst calls" when the penalty/no penalty is roughly 50/50 and the rules isn't clear on this.

Just because there is a bunch of people here that don’t understand the rules doesn’t mean it’s not a terrible call.

 

[Thallis]

Just because there is a bunch of people here that don’t understand the rules doesn’t mean it’s not a terrible call.

"We're all looking for the guy who doesn't understand the rules"

 

[ijuka]

Again, jumping and having both skates off the ice before the hit.

That's charging, largely because there's not a better category for it. But it's still not allowed. They could introduce a "jump hit" category or something, but it wouldn't change the fact that this is a penalty, and that you aren't allowed to jump into a hit.

 

[matsqq]

Again, jumping and having both skates off the ice before the hit.

That's charging, largely because there's not a better category for it. But it's still not allowed. They could introduce a "jump hit" category or something, but it wouldn't change the fact that this is a penalty, and that you aren't allowed to jump into a hit.

In a court of Law :

Well, we can't find a rule that he broke, but it doesn't change the fact that he should have a penalty so we sentence him to 5 years in prison.
I guess we can invent a new law later.

New rule :
If a player is charging towards you in full speed it is not allowed to turn your back on that player and jump up in the air . Sounds rather silly to me ...

 

[ijuka]

In a court of Law :

Well, we can't find a rule that he broke, but it doesn't change the fact that he should have a penalty so we sentence him to 5 years in prison.
I guess we can invent a new law later.

New rule :
If a player is charging towards you in full speed it is not allowed to turn your back on that player and jump up in the air . Sounds rather silly to me ...

Again, jumping into a hit is forbidden. And you say that "we can't find a rule."

My point was that "charging" is not a good name for the action that Pettersson did. But that doesn't change the fact that it's against the rules, and covered by charging.

Read my post more carefully next time. Considering what I was saying, your entire post is completely meaningless and either shows that you're misinterpreting what I said, or trying to intentionally be misleading.

For charging in NHL's official rulebook of 23-24 it says this, direct quote:

A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner.

Source: https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public/ext/2023-24/2023-24Rulebook.pdf
Page 74 section 42.1.

"Jumps into," "in any manner."

That's the rule. That's the law.

Again, it's not a good fit for charging. But jumping into a hit is still forbidden. And has always been understood to be so.

 

[Pestilence]

In the playoffs, it is.

You were better off sitting this one out.

Just like the Canucks are better off sitting the conference final out

 

[matsqq]

Again, jumping into a hit is forbidden. And you say that "we can't find a rule."

My point was that "charging" is not a good name for the action that Pettersson did. But that doesn't change the fact that it's against the rules, and covered by charging.

Read my post more carefully next time. Considering what I was saying, your entire post is completely meaningless and either shows that you're misinterpreting what I said, or trying to intentionally be misleading.

For charging in NHL's official rulebook of 23-24 it says this, direct quote:


Source: https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public/ext/2023-24/2023-24Rulebook.pdf
Page 74 section 42.1.

"Jumps into," "in any manner."

That's the rule. That's the law.

Again, it's not a good fit for charging. But jumping into a hit is still forbidden. And has always been understood to be so.

Clear ... as mud

He didn't "jump into" and did not cover any distance, but if it works for you ...

 

[Ace of Hades]

Just like the Canucks are better off sitting the conference final out

Your Coilers will join soon enough.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

"...as a result of distance traveled..."

Why are so many people ignoring the second paragraph?

The 1st sentence of the rule also literally says "...jumps into...an opponent in any manner..." With key emphasis on 'any manner'.

So it's vague and perhaps even conflicting.

 

[McVespa99]

Oilers fan. Stupid ticky tac call. Especially with all the actual penalties they ignore in the playoffs

 

[belair]

Clear ... as mud

He didn't "jump into" and did not cover any distance, but if it works for you ...

He anticipated the contact and jumped into it instead of standing his ground. He took a penalty instead of taking the hit. Still clear as it was when it happened. You can't leave your feet to throw a hit, reverse or otherwise.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Has no baring at all from what I can see .
Kronwall is not standing still and jumping straight up as another player charges into him .

Jump I guess u can say isn't as egregious, but it's jumping back into the player.

These hits aren't comparables. Both players have their feet on the ice just before and at initial contact. Pettersson clearly jumps as if he's skipping a rope. Looked very contrived and weird, you don't see players do that.

He either mistimed it or more likely he got cold feet and scared of getting crushed on his reverse hit attempt and decided to leave his feet. Given his performance in the playoffs, i wouldn't doubt the latter.

 

[HockeyWooot]

It’s was a pretty soft call in a tight series, very different than 50/50 plays or obvious calls like high sticking.

It happens though refs are imperfect.

 

[TheNumber4]

Still can’t believe Nucks fans threw garbage on the ice in celebration of possible CTE issues due to EP40’s viscous charging.

 

[JarvisFunk]

Lost in this entire argument is the one handed "slash" that put the Canucks on the powerplay to begin with wasn't a penalty either. But that wasn't a unique circumstance, so no one cares.

 

[Skolman]

You guys are still talking about this?